YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, HOWEVER, YOU CANNOT TELL PEOPLE TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS BLOG... IF BLOG BELONGS TO YOU I WOULD NOT EVEN VISIT IT. YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A WEBSITE TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS, AT LEAST I HAVE PREPARED A WEBSITE AND ALL THE CLAIMS ARE EXPLAINED...SCAMS ONLY OPEN AND CLOSED THE BIG MOUTH.....ONE LOOK AN EDUCATED MAN WILL KNOW THAT ZUMMA IS A SALES ARMS OF MANY CASINOS SO THEIR TEST IS NOT CREDIBLE , SEE MY OTHER WARNINGS AS TO CASINO INTERNET FUNDED SITES MANY PAGES BACK .. THESE SITES ARE TELLING YOU LIES SO THAT THEY WILL SEEM VERY CREDIBLE, SO YOU WILL TRUST THEM AND PLAY THEIR SITES. YOU SEEMED TO HAVE DIGESTED ALL THEIR LIES, IN THE END YOU ARE "IN THE GREEN" WOW YOU KNOW SO MUCH AND YET ONLY IN THE "GREEN " I BET WITH MY DONG YOU ARE A BIG DONATOR TO UNCLE LIM.


ANSWER THIS HOW YOU TEST MY SYSTEM WITH A FEW HOURS WHEN YOU SAID THEY DONT USE COMPUTER TESTING? EACH ACTUAL CASINO SHOE DURATION AT LEAST 1 HOUR. 5000SHOES TAKES 208 DAYS THEN SUDDENLY YOU ALREADY TESTED MY SYSTEM, ISN'T IT YOU TRYING TO DISCREDIT ME WITH INTENTION? IF SO SAY SO, IT IS OK.....NATURALLY IT IS YOUR INTEREST TO DO THAT BECOS YOU ARE PAID BY THE CASINO. IT IS ALSO NATURALLY THE CASINO'S INTENTION TO GET RID OF ME FROM THIS SITES....AS IT WILL HARM THEIR PROFITBILTY AND THEIR FUTURE....REMEMBER...SINGAPORE ALSO HAVE 2 NEW CASINOS COMING GENTING ALSO HAVE SHARES THERE.. .THEY HAVE TO BORROW MONEY....TO BUILD....THEY HAVE LITTLE CASH...SO IF ONE DAY EVERYBODY STOP LOSING AND START WINNING.....THEY WILL HAVE HUGE PROBLEMS...BANKS WILL STOP LENDING AND THE PROJECTS WILL STOP BUILDING!!! SO YOU WANT TO SCORE POINTS TO LET YOUR BOSS SEE HMMM WOW NO WANDER....NO WANDER WOW WOW YOU VERY DEEP!! I WANDERING WHY YOU SO PERSISTANT...TO DISCOURAGE ME, WHY?? YOU HAVE NO BETTER SYSTEM, YOU JUST ANYHOW POINT HERE AND THERE TO CONFUSED ME EH? ALL THOSE YOU MENTIONED ARE CASINO SITES OR DISGUISES .... NOT SO EASY, I EAT SALT MORE THAN YOU EAT RICE MY FRIEND......IF YOU WANT TO DISCOURAGE ME, CAN NO PROBLEM, I AM PREPARED TO GO PUBLIC AND REVIEW MY TRUE IDENTITY.....IN THE NEWSPAPER....I AM PREPARED TO FLY DOWN TO KL TO SETTLE THIS ..I WILL SURE TAKE UP AN ADVERT IN SINGAPORE NEXT YEAR DURING THE OPENING CEREMONY


NOTE :PRO MACAU GAMBLER ALL SPEAK CANTONESE THEY CANNOT EVEN SPEAK THEIR NAME IN ENGLISH LET ALONE PRONUNCE ZUMMA....YOU REALLY...SCAM I THINK YOU MUST BE AN INDIAN.....SURE....MAYBE THEY CAN SAY TIEW LIA MA VERY WELL BUT ZUMMA? LIA MA HAI MAYBE HE REPLY.....IF YOU INSIST TOO MUCH

3 YEARS AGO I ALREADY BOUGHT THE ZUMMA CD AND TRIED , WASTING MY MONEY LAH, IF YOU WANT A COPY I CAN GIVE YOU THE DISC IT IS LAYING SOMEWHERE, THE DISC CANNOT BE COPIED , COPYRIGHTED PROTECTION

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Added on May 4, 2008, 11:37 pmDOG !!! 11.30pm you sleep already, wow so good life!!

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Added on May 4, 2008, 11:39 pmdog , please lah don't sleep answer me

This post has been edited by edwardng9949: May 4 2008, 11:39 PM

ok shonky boy, i doubt your credibility here, but anyway, since you said you have seen a zumma system tester,
so, i am giving you the benefit of a doubt, just tell here what is your understanding of zumma system tester.
what do you actually see and explain what is a zumma system tester!
stop beating around the bush this time, just furnish the facts.. period!


only a few known FOOLS will play and trust on a random computer generated numbers, plus with the hassle of online casino banking,
it does not take long to understand that online casinos are not many malaysians cup of tea!


ha..ha.. casinos are very afraid of you?? go ahead and dream on shonky boy, i cannot stop you from making fool of yourself!
  
   


This post has been edited by Joehans: May 4 2008, 11:45 PM

edwardng9949 ur site is down i would like to see ur charts please anyway do you play poker?

the war of capital letters...

not really a war man, it's pointing to him on his unreliable and failed system which he keeps on pushing everyone to use that makes him
unhappy, but if you see in the zumma tester book, you can see for instance in this shonky maniac charts number
8 he suggest using PBBB and the actual opening came up with BPPP so you will loss again, when you lose he does not go into recovery
mode to recover. He will only ask you to blame your bad luck and come back again another day.

ok lets assume to begin again in another day, opened another page on tester book page, next one use shonky chart 3 he suggest using BBPP
and the actual results was PPBB so you will loss again. again he only ask you to blame on your luck and come back again.

anyway, by looking at shonky charts you can see that the charts used to play is a hit and miss jumps.
with this simple old method, you can even design your own hit and run charts so just for example you
just play using the following BPBP or PBPB all the time, and you will get the same results with or without using shonky charts.

I know that for a simple reason of hit and miss, this game might give you a small winnings.
but the thing about baccarat is that your should expect the unexpected, and in the long run
the losing streaks will catch you off guard and you can expect it to knock you off,

maybe then it's really a time for him to go home while he can!

This post has been edited by Joehans: May 5 2008, 02:23 AM

Hello,

Can you further explain "casino need to synchronize it's losing streak timing with the time you are playing!"?

Means that the outcome is controlled by the casino, not completely random?

Hi there, to be honest, you try the system...and you will know. No offense, this thread is just to share method but not critic ppl's method.

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Added on May 5, 2008, 11:45 amHi there, can you share the method you use to win money? Please share thanks a million!!!!

This post has been edited by pdapro: May 5 2008, 11:45 AM

this thread information is very useful, thanks

Hello

Good news!!!!

I have decoded the baccaratadvantage.com software and rearranged it into an easy read excel file with my explaination of how to read the chart which you can printout and bring to the casino. I will upload it into my website around 11.30pm tonite. Meanwhile you can go to this website : www.baccaratadvantage.com and practice and get some experience before you read my decoded chart later tonite...Note this website is sponsored by casino...
The purpose of my decoding this chart is to tell you how casino arrived at the decision and since you cannot bring a computer to the casino, you cannot use this software unless you get my decoded chart. I am giving free service...no charge


Note: about making your own chart as mentioned by "dog" you can do so, but if you don't have all the 16 possibilities right at your hands during gambling how are you going to decide what to buy. If you have all the possibilities you are coping my method, so what is the deal? so might as well use my method. The so called war as you all called is over, I will not be looking at his opinion as i have told you, i don't bother with casino sponsored sites lose energy talking to people who wants to win forever. if i can help, i will do so, just like this one here. 3 years ago i already done with it. Even this baccaratadvantage chart i managed to find this file in one of my corrupted hard disk. i am trying to find that zumma software somewhere


Note : as my website is free, please do not click in and out of my site as it will trigger a shut down for a few hours , maybe "dog" is trying to get into my chart so please let him have an opportunity. However, if you need it urgently please email me i will let you have a copy first, or whenever i have the opportunity.

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Added on May 6, 2008, 11:40 pmThere will be a delay of the decoding. I have some problem, the instructions were not intact so i have to figure out again how it works again...imagine this work already 3 -4 years ago i have it done but it was shelved...anyway it is just another casino gimmick for dog to see how much work was involved doing stupid casino strategy. so nowadays i just brush it off when i know it is casino's link there...dog just fallen into two of it. zumma and aviven something

Seriously I need somebody to come up with a software which can test System 16 and System 8 for 5000 shoes..to see what is the temporary drawn down ( max units you will lose before recovery, termed MUR) Then with this known factor i can safely say this system is safe for a certain limit with X units as bankroll. I cannot use zumma otherwise i would have bought another one since it is just a few dollars.

For long term playing purposes, I just tested System8 today 8decks 3 shoes, MUR=3x7=21units before i recover and win 25 units all in 1hr 30mins after that i am too tired to carry on. I will bring forward tomorrow and test again. This MUR is very important as it is an indication of the required amount of capital in order to win eventually.

i know that if we combine martingale with system16 we actually have 2 advantages, when played long term this 2 natural advantages should be able to overcome the casino's advantage eventually. remember, casino also have plenty of bankroll, so if your bankroll is insufficient how can you have a definate win? even with greed as a disadvantage, provided you don't play outside the perimeters mentioned you cannot lose. So thus the reason why i need this MUR. once you know this MUR you can play 24/7/31/365....you cannot lose!! the casino knows their own MUR too which is calculated ......


system16 and martingale is like brother and sister, system makes mistake, martingale corrects it immidiately. systems does not make mistake you keep winning unit by unit. and it also can track streaks either banker or player you can win all the streaks even if it repeats 20 times!! because one instruction say keep staking repeat if you strike on 1st hand. this means it is also a streak follower incorporated. to some up the advantage:

1.. system 16 15:1 winning ratio
2. martingale for quick recovery.
3. streak follower










This post has been edited by edwardng9949: May 7 2008, 12:02 AM

Hi bro, your website down...cannot access

my website is running now with the decoded baccaratadvantage. my web is free so if too many people click in it will stop running for 4 hours before reseting again

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Added on May 7, 2008, 10:29 pmok if you guys got any problems email me, i will return your email asap

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Added on May 9, 2008, 12:16 amhello
some kind soul tested for me 300,000 hands and did it 4 times and the result below:

Low:-1839 High:12144 Money:12144 balance in units
Low:-2203 High:8598 Money:6000
Low:-2693 High:15300 Money:10944
Low:-845 High:13710 Money:11472

low=MUR for each round of tests using computer generated software
this mean for example if i have bankroll of 1839units +15 units and play 300,000 hands (until my hands get woren out) i can win 12144 units! but for the 2nd time i must have 2203 units to win 6000units at the end of 300,000hands

it can test 1 million hands.

no wander the casino always win!!! becos they play round the clock and we always play few hours

i have a copy of this software i will place it in my website any one can download it there

sorry website cannot load in win.rar software, so have to email those who want it.

This post has been edited by edwardng9949: May 9 2008, 03:48 PM

To anyone that interested, here is the System 16 simulator program, now it also have programs for System 8 and 32.



updated the programs abit to be more user friendly

This post has been edited by unnamed: May 11 2008, 04:48 PM

How to run?

thanks my friend for the software, this is sure constructive for everyone, i have tried it 100 times using 300,000 hands and i won until dunknow how to totalised it. so you see software provided by neutral people say a different picture. i believe casino must put fear into people that you will lose!!! by using martingale. i have deep suspicion over casino's linked sites, where they ever get so much money to put it at the front page of every casino link...fortune my friend to do that!!

since gambler like to gamble long time he must have enough bankroll to sustain the MUR after that the surplus money you won is so much that the MUR becomes irrelevant, which means you will never lose. at the beginning if you dont have this MUR money please dont try.....it is like you become the casino....u know what i mean? bluddyhell without this software you dont know what figure you looking at... ahh one thing i overlooked is the -5% banker, this is not factored inside the software

i would like to thank the unnamed person for providing such quick service to help the communitee

This post has been edited by edwardng9949: May 9 2008, 05:39 PM

How to run the software? after unrar, then open with what program?

the guy who donate the software is not online, so i have no idea how to open, unless you want his older version with only sys16 then you got to get it from me, email me

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Added on May 9, 2008, 11:01 pmi just got this on the simulator every shoe is 60 hands exactly, the max low (MUR) is -32 and the win total =272 units offcourse the actual win would be 240 when less the 5% banker

Win:57 Lose:3 Low:-6 High:15 Money:12
Win:58 Lose:2 Low:-11 High:42 Money:28
Win:59 Lose:1 Low:0 High:44 Money:44
Win:56 Lose:4 Low:-11 High:24 Money:-4
Win:59 Lose:1 Low:-12 High:44 Money:44
Win:56 Lose:4 Low:-10 High:16 Money:-4
Win:57 Lose:3 Low:0 High:39 Money:12
Win:59 Lose:1 Low:0 High:44 Money:44
Win:60 Lose:0 Low:0 High:60 Money:60
Win:55 Lose:5 Low:-32 High:10 Money:-20
Win:57 Lose:3 Low:-18 High:12 Money:12
Win:59 Lose:1 Low:0 High:56 Money:44

total win 272-10%=240 actual win
total...3000hands (2 days)work at genting just playing and playing...no wander there is one guy he brought rm400 and he won rm3600 after 2 days despite losing rm1000 earlier he said. so he is not pulling my leg

if you bring say 32 units to casino, you can expect to win , depending when this max MUR occur you need not bring 32 units to casino to play 3000hands. as it occurs well below the halfway point your winnings above can nautrally covers the MUR. ...how about you guys? any of you have got the your score please show it

this means what? long term or short term? for much longer term like 100,000 hands to 10,000,000 hands it is pao win according to this test.....anybody have anything to say? try it on your software!! thanks to this great guy, name not known, thanks...

This post has been edited by edwardng9949: May 9 2008, 11:13 PM

edwardng9949
from your post, it seems that you'r genuine about helping ppl who lost a lot of money to Uncle Lim

I might wanna try out your sysyem and use this system to take revenge on uncle lim's son soon....
but there is still some questions i wanna ask before i go into battlefield again.....
care to answer??

1)You show 2 system in your website, System128 and System16. Does this 2 system work together or differently??

2)You developed/invent this "system16" yourself or you learned it from some guys???

4)Mind to tell me how old are you ? you can answer indirectly like in the 20s, 30s or late 40s....?

you can play 128 together as and when you are playing sys16. esp when the dragon starts to form the time 5,6,7 times you get in. normally dragon seldom more than 9 times. but as at this moment let us do more work b4 plunging into long term battle, i want to be 100% sure otherwise i will give the odd factor. for sys16, any 4 consecutive sequence there are 16 possibilities BBBB BBBP BBPP BPBB .....to 16 right? correct me if i am wrong, any 15 you will win except 1 you lose. so if you are not greedy you bang hard for few rounds and go home...you win already right? recommended stake: bring rm15,000 go in 4 times is already rm4000 less then 15 mins job + 1 hr driving. sell chicken rice also not so fast. many people has already tried this since last month, there is not a single condemnation from those who played, but from one guy who dont play but makes unprofound remarks all of which refuted with reasons and statistic. then somebody asked him to try...from that day he keep quiet. see lah all the corress behind these pages!

learnt from someguys but not exactly like tuition like what i do now. secretly and then ask a bit he let go some info bit by bit.

50's since 74 i already been to genting, and i have owned part of the facilities there too before.

This post has been edited by edwardng9949: May 10 2008, 12:50 PM

hey shonky, why are you still bullshi* around, i told you already, your system failed and it failed big time on zuma system tester.
haizz... why you want to see the others here getting burned playing your system, will you be happy then?

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Added on May 10, 2008, 1:59 pmagain, your scam charts does not make any difference, it is just a jump in and jump out, hit and miss scam charts,
you get an illusion that your system working because of the suicide double your bets as you lose scams.

you were never right, your system is DOOMED from day 1, as i told you,
you can just you a a simple chart BPBP or PBPB and it still gives out a same result.

yes, my siggy tells it all, and you've now confirmed that you yourself are not sure.

only a fool will risk so much money playing ultra useless double your bets as you lose,
ohh well, what difference does a scam system makes!

if a system is so good, it makes no difference to a lower Bankroll, and one can just
use a lower rm1,500 as their BR and could still win rm400 per day.

But as i said, your system fails and it failed big time on the system tester, period.
ohh come on shonky, you own part of genting facilities?
stop shonky, stop your nonsense, show it here who played your shonky system?
you don't even know who played your system don't you?
ohh.. well... until then, you will remain as a fool in my eyes


This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 02:23 PM

Halo all...the battle is back!!! Okay I will be trying the system16...and I will call it system16 project...with only RM10 each bet...if lost, maximum is RM150 only, not a big deal, I am preparing a table charts, with day1 until day 28( I plan to play 28 days a month), paper that I draw eg PPBP, win on which stake...and other relevent information, I am not going to tell where I bet(I am not a scam), but for sure it is from a real casino.

stay tune!!!

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Added on May 10, 2008, 2:59 pmIt is two different system, system128 need high bankroll...even me myself cannot afford...I prefer system16, maybe u will ask, why system16 but not system32? well if system32 u lost, it is hard for u to recover back...and one thing

NEVER BE GREEDY,MARTINGALE BETTING STRATERGY WILL NEVER WORK LONG TERM, YOU HAVE TO BE A KIASU!!! A BIG KIASU...THEN YOU WILL WIN, SINGAPOREAN HAVE THE BIG POTENTIAL TO USE THIS SYSTEM...BCOZ THEY ARE KIASU


This post has been edited by bulkbiz: May 10 2008, 02:59 PM