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SUSJoehans
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 May 4 2008, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 05:13 PM) you really scam.... you need proper software to test 5000shoes just one statement system16 failed is not enough scam shonky boy ohhh shonky boy, didn't you learn from the gambling schools that
you cannot use a Random Number Generating software results to test your system.
A computer generated results will never be the same from the actuall manually recorded results
in the Zumma tester book quote from the zumma tester book'Every single decision was recorded LIVE at the casino. We will never give computer generated junk! ' |
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SUSJoehans
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May 4 2008, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 05:25 PM) to test 5000 shoes live you need 5000 hours or 208 days wah!! since when you test?? thats the reason why i said you have never tested your system properly at all,
you don't even have a slightest idea on how to test it! 
you are not even aware of the existence of zumma tester book, there are professionals out there
who have in the past sit down patiently and recorded all the results from actual baccarat tables.
all a shonky guy does is to test his FAILED system on a lousy computer generated random results.This post has been edited by Joehans: May 4 2008, 05:36 PM |
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May 4 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 05:44 PM) NEXT YEAR I WOULD BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT TESTED...MEANWHILE I MAKE MONEY FIRST...OK? TEST OR NO TEST 1:16 HOW TO LOSE , ANY AHTOO AHKOW WILL KNOW HARD TO LOSE 1:16 , THIS SCAM MUST BE PAID QUITE A LOT BY THE CASINO, THINK HE IS DANGER MAN
we have seen too many of our friends here got burned in casino, so please for god sake
stop recommending your nonsense playing method here, thanks |
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SUSJoehans
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May 4 2008, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 05:56 PM) he said he is still "green" but i think it is dark red. bitten by martingale probably... yes no problem shonky, i will always be in the green as long as i do not follow some amateur shonky FAILED gambling methods!This post has been edited by Joehans: May 4 2008, 06:11 PM |
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May 4 2008, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 06:15 PM) ... suspected to be an agent, promoter for casino , so cannot trust this type....wow he so good want to trust me instead he earlier said now what else? you're running out of ideas is it? only a tiga suku crazy fella like you will think got casino agents
so scared and worried that someone will beat their casinos, so they post their agents to chat in lowyat.net forums
come on shonky, eat some vitamins, grow some brains!! go and analyze the zumma tester book shonky!QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 06:15 PM) malaysia i undestand is 1/100? if so is very rediculos , sure lose money with this limit bandwith noo conmen, your system16 failed way below genting's table limits!! and now you want to continue to con everyone here
with your system32 This post has been edited by Joehans: May 4 2008, 06:38 PM |
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May 4 2008, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 06:34 PM) zumma is supported by casino,
anyway, i am talking to some software engineer to make one software for me to test 5000shoes the reason why i am telling that your system is a screwed and failed system is because it failed
to live on zumma system tester book! and you yourself have never tested your system properly, in order for you to test it properly
you will need a proper set of actual baccarat table results, you cannot simple compare results from a few baccarat shoes or worse
now you want to design a random computer generated shoe results, go and learn from the pros in macau and ask if they would compare
their bettting systems with any computer generated random results, i am sure they will laugh and spit on your theory
come on shonky, stop making fool of yourself, go and get a zumma system tester or at least go and ask some
pro baccarat players in macau and ask them nicely to borrow you their a zumma system tester, don't come back here
without testing your system on zumma system tester, and don't lie telling no one in macau ever heard of zumma tester,
until then you will remain as a fool in my eyes.This post has been edited by Joehans: May 4 2008, 07:07 PM |
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SUSJoehans
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May 4 2008, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 08:44 PM) ONE LOOK AN EDUCATED MAN WILL KNOW THAT ZUMMA IS A SALES ARMS OF MANY CASINOS
NOTE :PRO MACAU GAMBLER ALL SPEAK CANTONESE THEY CANNOT EVEN SPEAK THEIR NAME IN ENGLISH LET ALONE PRONUNCE ZUMMA....YOU REALLY...SCAM ok shonky boy, i doubt your credibility here, but anyway, since you said you have seen a zumma system tester,
so, i am giving you the benefit of a doubt, just tell here what is your understanding of zumma system tester.
what do you actually see and explain what is a zumma system tester! stop beating around the bush this time, just furnish the facts.. period! QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 08:44 PM) .. THESE SITES ARE TELLING YOU LIES SO THAT THEY WILL SEEM VERY CREDIBLE, SO YOU WILL TRUST THEM AND PLAY THEIR SITES. YOU SEEMED TO HAVE DIGESTED ALL THEIR LIES only a few known FOOLS will play and trust on a random computer generated numbers, plus with the hassle of online casino banking,
it does not take long to understand that online casinos are not many malaysians cup of tea!QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 4 2008, 08:44 PM) IT IS ALSO NATURALLY THE CASINO'S INTENTION TO GET RID OF ME FROM THIS SITES....AS IT WILL HARM THEIR PROFITBILTY AND THEIR FUTURE....
NOT SO EASY, I EAT SALT MORE THAN YOU EAT RICE MY FRIEND......IF YOU WANT TO DISCOURAGE ME, CAN NO PROBLEM, I AM PREPARED TO GO PUBLIC AND REVIEW MY TRUE IDENTITY.....IN THE NEWSPAPER....I AM PREPARED TO FLY DOWN TO KL TO SETTLE THIS ..I WILL SURE TAKE UP AN ADVERT IN SINGAPORE NEXT YEAR DURING THE OPENING CEREMONY ha..ha.. casinos are very afraid of you?? go ahead and dream on shonky boy, i cannot stop you from making fool of yourself!
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SUSJoehans
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May 5 2008, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ May 5 2008, 12:14 AM) the war of capital letters...
unhappy, but if you see in the zumma tester book, you can see for instance in this shonky maniac charts number
8 he suggest using PBBB and the actual opening came up with BPPP so you will loss again, when you lose he does not go into recovery
mode to recover. He will only ask you to blame your bad luck and come back again another day.
ok lets assume to begin again in another day, opened another page on tester book page, next one use shonky chart 3 he suggest using BBPP
and the actual results was PPBB so you will loss again. again he only ask you to blame on your luck and come back again.
anyway, by looking at shonky charts you can see that the charts used to play is a hit and miss jumps.
with this simple old method, you can even design your own hit and run charts so just for example you
just play using the following BPBP or PBPB all the time, and you will get the same results with or without using shonky charts.
I know that for a simple reason of hit and miss, this game might give you a small winnings.
but the thing about baccarat is that your should expect the unexpected, and in the long run
the losing streaks will catch you off guard and you can expect it to knock you off,
maybe then it's really a time for him to go home while he can!This post has been edited by Joehans: May 5 2008, 02:23 AM |
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SUSJoehans
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May 10 2008, 01:33 PM
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hey shonky, why are you still bullshi* around, i told you already, your system failed and it failed big time on zuma system tester.
haizz... why you want to see the others here getting burned playing your system, will you be happy then?
Added on May 10, 2008, 1:59 pmQUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 12:14 PM) you can play 128 together as and when you are playing sys16.
but as at this moment let us do more work b4 plunging into long term battle, again, your scam charts does not make any difference, it is just a jump in and jump out, hit and miss scam charts,
you get an illusion that your system working because of the suicide double your bets as you lose scams.QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 12:14 PM) for sys16, any 4 consecutive sequence there are 16 possibilities BBBB BBBP BBPP BPBB .....
to 16 right? correct me if i am wrong you were never right, your system is DOOMED from day 1, as i told you,
you can just you a a simple chart BPBP or PBPB and it still gives out a same result.QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 12:14 PM) i want to be 100% sure otherwise i will give the odd factor. yes, my siggy tells it all, and you've now confirmed that you yourself are not sure. QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 12:14 PM) recommended stake: bring rm15,000 go in 4 times is already rm4000
less then 15 mins job + 1 hr driving. sell chicken rice also not so fast only a fool will risk so much money playing ultra useless double your bets as you lose,
ohh well, what difference does a scam system makes!
if a system is so good, it makes no difference to a lower Bankroll, and one can just
use a lower rm1,500 as their BR and could still win rm400 per day.
But as i said, your system fails and it failed big time on the system tester, period.QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 12:14 PM) many people has already tried this since last month,
there is not a single condemnation from those who played
i already been to genting, and i have owned part of the facilities there too before ohh come on shonky, you own part of genting facilities?
stop shonky, stop your nonsense, show it here who played your shonky system?
you don't even know who played your system don't you?
ohh.. well... until then, you will remain as a fool in my eyes
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SUSJoehans
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May 10 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 05:29 PM) wow we wait and get result coming in. 128 need bigger bankroll but surer to win. infact 128 is like going table to table and pick up money. come on shonky, again, your scam charts does not make any difference, it is just a jump in and jump out, hit and miss scam charts,
you get an illusion that your system working because of the suicide double your bets as you lose scams. |
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May 10 2008, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 05:58 PM) let me tell you , dog is making money through using my system, no it takes a fool to play another foolish failed system,
you'll have to understand that progressions/martingale don't change the odds.
In other words, if a system can't win flat betting, then it can't win in the long run period.
QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 05:58 PM) he barks becos he knows i have more knowledge and wants it indirectly
sorry i dont care with your arrogance words or with what you do with your money,
but i am just worried someone here might get burned listening to your full fledged bullshi*s!This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 06:18 PM |
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May 10 2008, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 06:27 PM) no need to worry someone gets burn.........already thousands of people got burned LONG time ago ,, you sound very innocent only indian cobra can be like this QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 12:14 PM) i already been to genting, and i have owned part of the facilities there too before. I have a feeling that you are a part of an international scammers already and your statement above seems to confirm it.
anyway back to your bullshi*s, all you can come up to help them is some lousy double your bets while loosing system,
and worst with your come to casino with RM15,000 bullshi* theory, why would you want to see them to burn harder?
come one shonky you'll have to understand that progressions/martingale don't change the odds.
In other words, if a system can't win flat betting, then it can't win in the long run period.
so for god sake stop recommending your nonsense playing method here, thanks This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 06:49 PM |
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May 10 2008, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 06:55 PM) without rm15,000 win already you not shiok (enough) so you play again and again stretching your advantage to it's limits....i bet you take rm10 win and win and win can you win rm4000 in 10 hrs? if you do so just like one guy who won rm4600 with rm400 he took 2 days , 3 hours each....i took 15 mins with rm15,000, it is like driving a 5000cc up genting against a proton kenchil 800cc something like this..
gambling methods, they never seem to show you how much you'll get burned.This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 07:02 PM |
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May 10 2008, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 07:04 PM) wishb0ne this dog guy is empty vessel i am very free, so to entertain him lah .....i know this type of people very well. telling new dogs old tricks....so i must look like i am very agitated like that lah...but actually he is nothing.....wow he scared people got burnt my god those got burned already burned and died, me also one of them lah....previous i "own" so many properties in genting but now uncle "bought" over from me hahahe  
Added on May 10, 2008, 7:09 pmfind lah did i say martingale can change the odds? never read properly you are actually like a monkey under a coconut shell, dont know what is doing around the world. i bet he ever own a car to drive up genting. so his perception is small i cannot blame him god have pity on him.
ohh come on shonky, you own part of genting facilities?
stop shonky, stop your nonsense, show it here who played your shonky system?
you don't even know who played your system don't you?
ohh.. well... until then, you will remain as a fool in my eyesQUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 07:04 PM) there is a guy in singapore, he is teaching casino gambling he has a PHD in casino management as singapore will be having a casino soon. he may be able to shed a light to whether i am talking kok or not. YES come and prove that you don't just talk a lot of nonsense rubbish and bullsh*t ,
come and name the SINGAPOREAN GUY here!! This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 07:43 PM |
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May 10 2008, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 07:45 PM) find it yourself you shonky think i am your slave ?  come on shonky, scammer, liar! stop your bullsh*t lah!This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 08:23 PM |
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May 10 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 07:48 PM) indian mama !! you answer why casino need MAX table limit and i tell you who this singaporean guy is , he has a shop with classroom at Bukit Merah Shopping centre, so easy, go to website you get him already...
Added on May 10, 2008, 7:54 pmyou are actually playing into my hands indian mama, remember salt more then rice?
someone playing the sure die martingale system, martingale players are a butt of jokes for the casinos, and the casinos
will be happy to welcome all martingale players into casino.QUOTE(from expert gambling forums) If you have a 63 unit bankroll, you will be risking it all on the
sixth bet in the progression. You are risking 63 units to win
1(+). The odds against losing 6 bets in a row are 33 to 1.
You are betting 63 to 1(+) on a 33 to 1 chance. That is a
_significant_ overlay. This overlay is present in every bet in the
progression.
If you have a 1023 unit bankroll, you will be risking it all on the
tenth bet in the progression. You are risking 1,023 units to win
1(+). The odds against losing 10 bets in a row are 356 to 1.
If you have a 65,535 unit bankroll, you will be risking it all on
the sixteenth bet in the progression. You are risking 65,535 units
to win 1(+). The odds against losing 16 bets in a row are 12,143
to 1.
Your choice of a Martingale system is a choice to accept a very
small wins while risking a catastrophic loss.
The table limit doesn't really matter, does it?
The table limit is a device used by the casino to force the very
big bettor to divide his possible large bets into several smaller
bets. Although the amount of the action is the same, the chances
of the bettor doubling his money is reduced by the increased number
of wagers. This restriction of the huge single bets is the real
reason for the house limit.
A look at the overlay of the
Martingale bettor as illustrated above clearly shows that the casino
did not institute table limits to prevent the Martingale
progression from winning.
When you are taking the worst of it, you are taking the worst of
it. That is the flaw in using a progression like the Margingale in
order to try to overcome the effects of a negative expectation
wager, not the fact of table limits.
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May 10 2008, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 09:20 PM) indian mama you very stupid my progression is only up to 15 units that shows you are just trying to what?
cripple a casino like genting easily with martingale eg, $1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072, 262144, 524288,1048576 (21 progression) i think genting cannot pay this in millions any thing below this bill gates start collecting US$1 mil each hand at the end of 500 hands about 8 shoes, genting is BANKRUPT!!!! Come on LYING SHONKY, can't you think of anything else rather than blaming that casinos are posting all over the gambling forums
so that people will be scared about martingale? Seriously your statement only goes against you and shows how dumb you are!
The casino table limits are not meant to kill martingale, but martingale will eventually die because of the doomed natural death it brings
to your bankroll, yes you can run home while you can, but how long you think you can run?
can't you accept the reality that your martingale system sucks and it's waiting to fail big time!yes scammers like you can hit and run for a while and make small peanut (not millions) winnings, but it's just a matter of time the odds will catch up
with you, where you gonna run then? run back to your mama and ask for more money? QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 07:04 PM) there is a guy in singapore, he is teaching casino gambling he has
a PHD in casino management as singapore will be having a casino soon. he may be able to shed a light to whether i am talking kok or not. I don't think you can ever name the person at all, because such person does not exist
and all you do here is tell lies and lies and more lies, here is the proof of your big lies, and you're caught with your pants down,
enough of your lies and bullshi* theories shonky!This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 10:48 PM |
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May 10 2008, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 10:45 PM) yes we can if all of us complain against him, get is IP address
come on lah shonky! stop shonking around with your lies! period!This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 10:51 PM |
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May 10 2008, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Hybz @ May 10 2008, 10:54 PM) I aint really gamble yet, but i gonna start to gamble soon  After readin so long from the beginning .... i think we lost track of some few legend expert gambler ... hlkoo and mrandylau. where are them ? !! Lookin forward to hear more advice n tips from them  yes hlkoo and mrandylau would be a great asset here, this shonky edwardng9949 is no better than the nonsense jiaxun moron we had a few months ago! This post has been edited by Joehans: May 10 2008, 11:01 PM |
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May 11 2008, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 11:36 PM) ....i gambled because i foolishly lose a huge sum of money - millions riggits within months, l QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 11:36 PM) i am kind of enjoying it becos i have the knowhow and experience , i cannot be tempted by greed. i walked into a casino like i walk into a bank, 15 mins i "withdraw" not "deposit" in other words i have passed a test so to say. bullsh*ts, bullsh*ts and more bullsh*ts from a scammer!  QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 10 2008, 11:36 PM) in my claims for flat bet where 5% commission imposed by casino, will eat all his bankroll within 3 shoes -- only a stupid fool like you would never understand that the damn 5% commission on banker side is in effective
regardless of you flat bet or using your scam martingale double your bet while lose charts. so how does your scam martingale charts overides the constant 5% commission on banker side.come on shonky, you're caught with your pants down this time, and you find it hard isn't it!  |
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