MrAndyLau

Can you please turn off your caps lock when replying?

If your assumption is true, that means he could only win beginning of the game. Maybe 1st, 2nd or 3rd @ RM100. On 4th onwards, start losing money(however, not as much as martiganle system). He also mentioned he lost 3 times @ 9 progressions. Maybe about RM1500 each x 3 , equivalent to lost RM4500. So, the system start from the begining at RM100 chances of winning @ 1st ,2nd or 3rd. In other words, it is slim chances to recover the initial loses.

well, remember the pascal distribution?

0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13

let say, 0 represent our starting point, neither lose or win. ( Pascal only can be start using when you start to lose, which means, on 2nd hand )

if he lose on first hand, 2nd hand lose, 3rd hand lose = 300, it's correct.
and again, u see, on 4th hand, if he win, means he got negative -100, right?
so, we back to the first hand again which means 0 1 1 2 ( 1 ) 3 5 8 13 ,
if u win, means u got nothing to lose, right? u back to 0 again, cover the -100 loses.
but if u lose again, u go to the fifth hand 0 1 1 2 1 ( 3 ) 5 8 13 which can cover the -200
so, if u win, u win 100, if u lose, u go to the 6th hand which is 5,
just remember, PASCAL system help u to minimize the loss and win a little, not for many.

that's why, u can use RM2300 for 13 step.

just add my cent

and oh ya.. he reveal that he win minimun of 100 each time when he win, right?

so, it means he can win 200 or 300 in the same time.

that's why when he reach 1000 he ciao~

let say, use the formula i think

when u bankroll of 200, u bet on 300, which, if u lose, u only lose 100 ( again, this is the minimun loses, just bet and think of minimun loses, u will be safe, isn't? )

and so, when u win, u win total 500.

and again, u can either bet on 500 or 200 or 300, depend on u, as long u follow the pascal rule ( MINIMUN loses )

let say, u dare of betting 500 ( U WIN ) = bankroll in is 1000. ( or if u lose ) = back to square 1 again, so starting to 0 and 100 bet

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Added on January 6, 2008, 11:18 amand so.. the money management kinda solve.. isn't?

now.. how to beat the random for randomness...hmmm

This post has been edited by wenjie86: Jan 6 2008, 11:18 AM

wenjie86,

The progression you mentioned is fibonachi, and not pascal triangle!!!According Mr khoo, fibonachi is useless as well...but thanks for your good work and effort...

Cool.

Great thread on improving chances of winning!

lol, ya ya

but actualy.. the pascal distribution is same as fibonacci? i read both equation.. ZzZz.. it's similar >.<

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Added on January 6, 2008, 11:41 ami felt am going back to my Form 6 life... Pascal Math >.<

This post has been edited by wenjie86: Jan 6 2008, 11:41 AM

lol mrandylau you ever win in genting?

the only thing we need to design here is how to put RM2300 into 13 progression...could it be:

100,
100
100
100
100
100
200
200
200
200
300
300
300

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RM 2300
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but if u lose from first hand to 6 hand...

u win on 7th and 8th lose at 9th and 10th, win at 11 12 and 13

600 - ( 400 ) + 400 - 900 = u win 300 >.<

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Added on January 6, 2008, 12:30 pmnot a bad .. but then... if u lose from 1st to 9th hand... that would be disaster !~

This post has been edited by wenjie86: Jan 6 2008, 12:30 PM

what if it open B6, pays only half. can only bet on player in order to get full amount

Mr. Khoo Hock Lye, do you ever see before B6 for 8 times in a row?

B6 for more than 8 times in a row will beat the hell out of him and he is left with only 5 progression to play with if he choose to stick to his chart and randomness and not following the trend/flow.

And in real situation,altho it seldom happenned, he will survey around the tables to check out the result so that he can see the randomness of the game first before applying his chart tactic.


He has his own calculation chart and he just has to follow it. If it's fail,he will go back to loop 1 and start all over again.Simple as that

You still cant win if you cant see the randomness of the game which is to beat the game using randomness vs random.

with using his only chart without randomness and other tactic such as follow the flow,he can minimize the losing for 50% and gain minimal win roughly around 20%.

I bet he will either stop playing or use the tactic "follow the flow" or start all over again with his chart and randomness once he see 4 hands of B6.

The term randomness is still about luck.

I put my money that he will not play with computer machine baccarat in Genting.

Do you know who is the baccarat champion competition in genting?I am

he already said to win the game..must apply randomness skill as well

malaysia4n, you are the baccarat champion??!! any tips you want to share out your road to the champion...

i strongly agree with you banker 6 is a hell bet...foreverly when you lose, you lose 1 unit but when you win, only win half...thats is anyway better than zero in roulette and tripple die in sic bo in which which you need lose all, no matter which side you bet... b6 you still luckily can keep your original ante while win only half...

but b6 is very common...as compared to zero and tripple die...i am sure for those who use progression better bet only on player hand....

This post has been edited by MrAndyLau: Jan 6 2008, 01:53 PM

the difference me and other competitor is that they want to win money but for me,my goal is to be the champion and accumulate money to the highest to become champion. Anyway my money is less than other player before the end of the game and i apply martigale to it coz i can see the randomness aka luck of it.So it's just double up few times. It's either win or lose for me. So at the end of the days,Im just lucky.

Money u win from casino = easy come easy go.
So stick with ur daily job.

Skill 30% math 20% luck 50%








you already have the chart with you and what you need is the randomness aka the luck.If you cant see the randomness,you cant win much perhaps you will lose .

Even if u use the chart alone playing alone for 1 hours ++ and winning just only rm 100 to rm 200 is consider as losing.

if you guys want side income go for online roulette and barracat where player has most of the advantage.

Go google which online gaming roulette which has no 0 and 00 which give the odds 1-35

Come,mr khoo i provide you the access and bring you to IR and VVIP room . You play ur own and keep ur winning. I will be at other place and wish you can win 50k at least from there.

They wont ban and bar you from casino even everyday you will rm 10,000.

This post has been edited by Malaysi4n: Jan 6 2008, 02:13 PM

malaysia4n, you seems to recognize MR KHOO...You know his full name as well as his game plan...are both of you friend?? if not, how did you know so detail that he is using calculation chart??

anyway thanks for your personal message...as well as you have decipher his code, randomness is luck!!!

thanks and happy winning to you...

mr andy, can forward the decipher to me too

oh ya, btw, i try the pascal system at online baccarat..

using first six 100 7-10 200 and 11-13 300

my randomness = PPPBBBPPPBBBP

accumulate initial of 100 credit to 3200credit.. cheers..~

oh, btw, i start from small.. 5 then 10 then 50 then 100 just to try the system.. somehow it works to me.. but need more practice

your talking about fibonacci. if continuously lose until 13th steak, accumulated lose would have reach 60900.

I couldn't figure out how one can place 13 consecutive bets (starting with 100) and if all lost only lost 2300 unless its flat betting modified with a placing a bigger stake along the line.

I wouldn't call this a progression staking plan.

Need some clarification on this Mr khoo, there are only 2 outcomes on each bet. Either win or lose. When he win, there is always guranteed profit of 100 and when he lost he proceed according to his plan (ie modifying his stake and taking into account current bankroll is negative) ?

I'm a programmer too and very intested in algorithm. Lets have more of this discussion. Cheers everyone

This post has been edited by HamikSu: Jan 7 2008, 11:18 AM

ANother possibility is that he is playing together with multiple bet.
For example, rm100 on odd-even and rm25 on those 1 pay 8.

I would like to said that in order to have probability of success as mentioned by MR Khoo as well as limited capital of 23 units, what can we do is wait for 8 hands when we totally get lose, for example, if you bet on banker hand only, wait for 8 player hands appear on any shoe and use 1,1,3,6,12, to win 1 units...

You see by doing this, even it comes out 13P, you only lose 23 units, and not martingale style of 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096=8191units... but you still enjoy the probability success rate as mentioned by MR Khoo...

The problem is do you have that kind of patient to wait for 8 hands totally wrong to appear? Do you mind to risk out big (max 23 units just to win small 1 unit) ?? Does that make sense??

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Added on January 9, 2008, 8:28 pm

This post has been edited by MrAndyLau: Jan 9 2008, 08:37 PM