whatever, wishing you happy punting, one with brains will wonder why so many people in the world losing all their hard earned money
on roulette and you, your family and friend are not being any super rich playing roulette either, genting casino managements must be
damn not doing their work for allowing you and your friends to control the outcome of the roulette.

This post has been edited by shahjees: Oct 6 2007, 04:22 PM

anyhow, you can choose not to believe.
1. not everyone know the croupier i told you
2. you didn't know my family members how can you know how much they've won?
3. Family members are not allow to play at that croupier's table
4. I'm not yet 21, so I can't go in and bet.
5. Those that lose, sorry for them cause they didn't bet smartly.
6. Genting casino management know it exist. BUT they can't do anything. They only can try to replace the senior croupier with new croupier junior croupier to reduce the lost. WHY? Because if they change all roulette to electronic type, nobody will want to genting to bet because electronic type is real random.(got 2 type here, one is electronic betting with human spin, another one is fully electronic. I'm speaking of fully electronic)
7. Even if win, cannot win much like 100k once but 5k-10k is possible. WHY? because you are not super VIP can't bet too big or else they will check on you.
8. FYI, for buying chip 10k and above, you have to present your ID for verification.
9. If you win too much, of course they wil suspect and they will investigate.
10. Based on 9, croupier also dun wan to lose his/her job just because he wants to get some tips.

Disclaimer:
not all croupiers co-op with gamblers

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Added on October 6, 2007, 4:57 pmI didn't do it, but I do have friends who doing it

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 6 2007, 04:57 PM

I have seen so many friends like you doing coffee talks in rsc canteen, got burned thinking they can predict and control the outcome of a
casino game (roulette including), just my concern for you and hope you'll not add to the numbers.

ohh...well....even if you think you somehow have the magically capabilities to control the wheel right in the nose of Genting casino security surveilance,
hmm... sorry to say but all the roulette wheels in Genting are 99% random, analysed automatically, in real-time by wheel-bias analyzing software purchased from tcsjohnhuxley, the software will alert the casino security far in advance if the balls are not moving and landing
in the number pockets randomly as its supposed to (standard and normal expected ball/wheel deviation are exempted).

I am attaching sample of the security software just in case if you never been to the genting gaming security room to see
what software they use to stop the occurance of non standard random movements of the ball on the wheel!








This post has been edited by shahjees: Oct 6 2007, 07:40 PM

hmm.. this is getting interesting.
so with this a croupier can't spin the area he/she wants? still need to be spun by man.

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Added on October 6, 2007, 9:27 pmyes they may remove the croupier, but they can't fire him. what is the proof of him cheating? how can you find a proof?

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 6 2007, 09:27 PM

haiya dont go genting to gambling la...my friends is a machine slot technician there, he told me that anyone cannot win the prize lol not berbaloi with the small winning prize, save your money n make business like other chinese people, example : Uncle Lim Goh Tong

croupier n its co is not that dumb... if u can think that, they also can think that... u noe something call body language??


usually when a certain client wins too many times, the management will change d croupier... n d croupier doin this kind of businees if not that many..

anymore to share? more tips how about bacarat or caribean stud?

y wan to gamble at genting?? klse is d biggest gambling place u cud find...its legal btw,chinese, malays, foreginer.. etc all play along... if u learn abit of support, resistance,n news.. u hav higher chance of winnin...

All a crooked croupier can try to do is to try monkeying his itchy hands trying to de-synchronized the wheels RPM speed from his last spin speed to
a new speed and start to clock the ball to spin from a particular location hoping and praying very hard that the ball will land in a particular sector on
the wheel.

can a croupier really control the ball landings? naaah.... the software would detect the abnormality on the wheels speeds,
software alerts and notifies the surveilance team, the table will be forced to close for early maintenance, cctv get reviewed,
the crooked croupier ends up sacked or lands himself in I.P.K Bentong lock-up,
There has been way to many cases to even list it out all here...

The most common ones would be cases of croupiers doing David Blaine vanishing a few chips
into their long sleeve shirts, and the other is paying out extra chips out to their FnFriends.
Croupiers antics are not just captured but superimposed and embossed in onto the casino surveilance camera in 3D video.

so the myth of dealers able to control the wheel....hmmm... as Mythbusters team would have called it ...

bet on sportsbooks gave bigger room for margin compare to decks, roulettes and what genting has to offer.
Bet smart! Bet on info u know and not betting on luck!

So far in genting's history, not a single croupier has been busted for "area spinning".
If you still don't believe I also can't do anything but laughing all the time reading your posts. Didn't I say I got friend doing it? If you don't believe means that you are accusing me lying...

Let the other forumer judge about this

how to bust'em'up when "area spinning" never existed in the first place!

ok..ok....yes your friend can do it, tell us all what exactly he does?

This post has been edited by shahjees: Oct 7 2007, 05:06 AM

Don't feel like repeating it... again and again.

Gamble more, good for you.

why buying chip 10k have to present your ID for verification?

what if buy 9k split it to different round of buying chip?

what the purpose for presenting the ID for verification?

tq

I'm not gambling, but got family members gambling. They never take it as main occupation, just some side pocket money

Erm. I'm sorry I can't tell you this.
We've been given training to ask for ID if customer's buying is more than 10k. We know what's the reason but we just can't tell you. Sorry

uncle always win de ...

Regarding the genting points, how and what are the criteria/condition sets for accumulating genting points since u have been working/train there?

what other forms of taking $$ to genting that is accepted by genting except cash/credit card. eg let say u would want to take large amt 100k to gamble..

how to upgrade to silver/gold/platinum card?
what other rules/regulation that we dont know can u please tell?
How do u find working in genting?
which games is easy to win/ tips/tricks?

tq

This post has been edited by ankw: Oct 7 2007, 03:19 PM

Ok, for non-VIP section, there are 2 places: General Gaming Area(GGA such as Starworld, Crystal Palace, Monte Carlo & Hollywood) & Non-GGA(International Room, VIP, Maxims, Elits)
GGA anyone can enter without providing Genting World Card. But to enter IR, you have to provide your Genting World Card(Silver and above or you need at least a Silver Card holder if you have only Green card)
At GGA, the point is given based on the amount of time you spend on the table.
At Non-GGA(IR, VIP, Maxims, Elites), the point is given based on the amount you bet(meaning the more you bet the more points you earn)
The point rate I don't know tho because croupiers are not in charge of giving point. Ask Genting World Card Information Counter for info.

Ok, other than cash/credit card, Genting also accept ATM card. The rest of the method you have to check with infomation counter for croupiers only deal with cash and chips.

To upgrade to silver card, you need recommendation from at least an Assistant Manager.
Gold card, Manager.
Platinum, sorry you can't get it. Only really big boss or those that have business with Genting can get it.

Rules/regulation?... Not sure what kind of rules/regulation. For worker or for customer? What kind of rules??
Do not enter if you are under 21? Do not enter if you are Malaysia Muslims(Yes, only Malaysia Muslims)? No eating in casino?

Find working in genting? You can go for interview at genting every weekend. I got to know it from newspaper. Every month they will have interview all over the country. Alor setar, Penang, Ipoh.. etc. Call this number to check with the time 03-61011118 if you want to know the exact time.

Which games is easy to win?.... I only can tell you roulette has the higher probability provided you know how to calculate probability.

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 8 2007, 02:59 AM

is that 10k limit is to prevent money laundering?
well i observe the winning rate for roulette is quite high