lol....
I WAS LAUGHING ALL THE WHILE WHEN I WAS READING THESE POSTS... So I skip from 3rd page until here...
Eventually you all don't know which game can win big amount of money.
The answer is roulette. Only by playing roulette you can win big money. seriously. But of course, you will have to know the smart way to bet since there are 37 numbers there.
FYI, I'm not yet 21 but I have seen people winning big on roulette table(real PRO) and losing on roulette table(simply bet) with my own eyes.

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Added on October 5, 2007, 4:12 pmAbout... Tai sai(aka big small), Mini Dice, French Bowl etc...
They are just fun game for you people to have fun... and for uncle lim to gain more money

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 5 2007, 04:12 PM

got one way.. but win VERY little... increase your bet 2 folds everytime you lose. If you win, start over again from 1

PLEASE...DON'T HAVE...
PLEASE.. Don't ever ever think that you can predict the pattern. I've seen people losing from the beginning to the end

haih...
You don't seems to believe me.. I understand, because you never seen it with your own eyes before. The chances of winning at roulette table is far higher than any other game provided you know how to bet.

And you know why there is no "Professional Roulette Tournament"?
Because, the card game you can't cheat but roulette you can cheat. The outcome of roulette can be based on how the croupier spin the ball. Croupier can control his/her energy when spinning the ball but for card games? They use shuffle machine, so there is no way you can cheat unless you put your own machine there.

Please don't argue with me. If you still want to argue with me, you should become a roulette croupier first.

silly question. go and study probability... duno how to teach you


yes, i have been a croupier in genting before and i have friends as croupier earn more than supervisor or assistant manager. Serious.


haha, dude, you are out dated.. i'm not gonna teach you how to get a croupier to do it for you. but i got friends
I tell you, how can you tell whether the croupier or his/her friends or family is rich or not? YOU CAN JUDGE A PERSON FROM HIS/HER LOOK?
you never been as a croupier before you want to laugh at my gambling fellacy?
I THINK YOU'VE NEVER ENTERED A CASINO BEFORE!

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Added on October 6, 2007, 3:50 pmjust to add.. practice makes perfect. you are just a kid for me. kiddo

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 6 2007, 03:50 PM

1st. I worked at there for part time for 2 months only. So I am not that good.
2nd. Once you resigned from genting casino, you can't enter genting casino for the next 2 years.
3rd. You don't know my family members also.
4th. I never say it is everytime also can win money but most of the time win. So there are times that can lose but the generally is win.
5th. From the 4th point, that's why people cannot take gambling as job. Kiddo. Only side income yes(edited)
6th. Maybe the last but not the least. You loser please accept and listen to those who got the experience, those who seen more things than you do.

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 6 2007, 04:09 PM

anyhow, you can choose not to believe.
1. not everyone know the croupier i told you
2. you didn't know my family members how can you know how much they've won?
3. Family members are not allow to play at that croupier's table
4. I'm not yet 21, so I can't go in and bet.
5. Those that lose, sorry for them cause they didn't bet smartly.
6. Genting casino management know it exist. BUT they can't do anything. They only can try to replace the senior croupier with new croupier junior croupier to reduce the lost. WHY? Because if they change all roulette to electronic type, nobody will want to genting to bet because electronic type is real random.(got 2 type here, one is electronic betting with human spin, another one is fully electronic. I'm speaking of fully electronic)
7. Even if win, cannot win much like 100k once but 5k-10k is possible. WHY? because you are not super VIP can't bet too big or else they will check on you.
8. FYI, for buying chip 10k and above, you have to present your ID for verification.
9. If you win too much, of course they wil suspect and they will investigate.
10. Based on 9, croupier also dun wan to lose his/her job just because he wants to get some tips.

Disclaimer:
not all croupiers co-op with gamblers

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Added on October 6, 2007, 4:57 pmI didn't do it, but I do have friends who doing it

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 6 2007, 04:57 PM

hmm.. this is getting interesting.
so with this a croupier can't spin the area he/she wants? still need to be spun by man.

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Added on October 6, 2007, 9:27 pmyes they may remove the croupier, but they can't fire him. what is the proof of him cheating? how can you find a proof?

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 6 2007, 09:27 PM

So far in genting's history, not a single croupier has been busted for "area spinning".
If you still don't believe I also can't do anything but laughing all the time reading your posts. Didn't I say I got friend doing it? If you don't believe means that you are accusing me lying...

Let the other forumer judge about this

Don't feel like repeating it... again and again.

I'm not gambling, but got family members gambling. They never take it as main occupation, just some side pocket money

Erm. I'm sorry I can't tell you this.
We've been given training to ask for ID if customer's buying is more than 10k. We know what's the reason but we just can't tell you. Sorry

Ok, for non-VIP section, there are 2 places: General Gaming Area(GGA such as Starworld, Crystal Palace, Monte Carlo & Hollywood) & Non-GGA(International Room, VIP, Maxims, Elits)
GGA anyone can enter without providing Genting World Card. But to enter IR, you have to provide your Genting World Card(Silver and above or you need at least a Silver Card holder if you have only Green card)
At GGA, the point is given based on the amount of time you spend on the table.
At Non-GGA(IR, VIP, Maxims, Elites), the point is given based on the amount you bet(meaning the more you bet the more points you earn)
The point rate I don't know tho because croupiers are not in charge of giving point. Ask Genting World Card Information Counter for info.

Ok, other than cash/credit card, Genting also accept ATM card. The rest of the method you have to check with infomation counter for croupiers only deal with cash and chips.

To upgrade to silver card, you need recommendation from at least an Assistant Manager.
Gold card, Manager.
Platinum, sorry you can't get it. Only really big boss or those that have business with Genting can get it.

Rules/regulation?... Not sure what kind of rules/regulation. For worker or for customer? What kind of rules??
Do not enter if you are under 21? Do not enter if you are Malaysia Muslims(Yes, only Malaysia Muslims)? No eating in casino?

Find working in genting? You can go for interview at genting every weekend. I got to know it from newspaper. Every month they will have interview all over the country. Alor setar, Penang, Ipoh.. etc. Call this number to check with the time 03-61011118 if you want to know the exact time.

Which games is easy to win?.... I only can tell you roulette has the higher probability provided you know how to calculate probability.

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 8 2007, 02:59 AM

Erm... Sorry really cannot tell... I might get sued.
Yup, the winning rate for roulette is quite high. The tips is study first before you place bets. What I mean study here is study about the trend of the croupier getting the outcome.


Yaya, baccarat. Go ahead forumer. Anyone volunteer to try this out??
Btw, Baccarat is not even chance. There is something called house rules. If you can find a game which has EVEN chances, there won't be any casino out there dude.
Just curious, have you ever entered a casino before? Don't sit behind your computer and talk big

not chi energy, is technique. Practice makes perfect right? All they did was just get familiar with the wheel over time when work there.

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 8 2007, 09:18 AM

In IR and above, it is supervisor's job to determine how much is one's betting

Basic
Croupier: RM1315(firm no matter how long you work)
Supervisor: around RM2000(minimum 2 years experience in croupier and you need to know at least 3 main games)
Assistant Manager: around RM5000(5 years if not mistaken)
Manager: Not sure.... (Some people 20 years also cannot reach this post)

Requirement. If you are degree holder in management, you can join genting, first month you will be croupier, 2nd month will be supervisor, 3rd month and above you will be AM.

Regarding the roulette pay out.. It's manually calculate. It's hard to explain but you have to undergo training and pass a small test. Have to use a lot of brain calculation. And you are not allowed to even whisper or use hand.
This is the payment
single bet(1 number) 1:35
split bet(2 numbers) 1:17
square bet(4 numbers) 1:8
line bet(3 numbers) 1:11
street bet(6 numbers) 1:5
column Bet & Dozen Bet(12 numbers) 1:2
Even Bet(Big/small, Red/black, Odd/even) 1:1

For example.. A customer strike 3 chips on single bet, 4 chips on split bet and 4 chips on square bet. Then croupier will mostly use this way
3 x (35 + 17 + 8) = 180 chips
1 x (17 + 8) = 25 chips
Total payment = 205 chips
They will use the amount of chips as payment instead of the amount of money as payment. I don't really know how to explain but you can go for training and you will know.

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 8 2007, 08:49 PM

Never play on tai sai.
There are 3 dice on tai sai, so there are
6x6x6=218
218 outcomes.
With 218 outcomes, 6 of them is "wai sek" aka "tong sat" or sapu all or makan semua or eat all.
so the chances you lose if you betting only on big or small is 6/218 = 1/36
but for roulette, 0 is the only number that is not big not small, not red not black, not odd not even. so the chances of getting 0 is 1/37.

which can conclude that. If you want to bet on big or small only, go for roulette

Well, guess you are one of them in my signature.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT LET FORUMER TO JUDGE?

@shahjees
did you really read all the posts properly? I didn't offend anyone

mengsuan: We are not offended with your post or whatsoever...........

They don't even know me but they judge me as:
Please note that some forumers posting here may have no basic knowledge......
You won't know if they are just primary school children....

If you don't have anything to say regarding this post, please leave and enjoy your life. But at least there are forumers here that wise enough to believe what I said is true. So, hence they asked me questions.

Again, I'm asking for the 3rd time
Shahjees, have you ever entered casino before?
I am not sure whether you didn't see my question or you purposely ignore it?

About the calculation you are right.
experienced croupier can do area spinning but good thing is the roulette wheel's number is randomly assigned, so no matter 0 side or 5 side also got big number and small number

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Added on October 8, 2007, 9:43 pmHAHAHAHA, We can now see who's the loser here hiding behind the computer and talk big...

This post has been edited by jiaxun: Oct 8 2007, 09:43 PM

Suddenly, why am I bother posting over here? Let forumer judge as I said. What I've said is enough.
Oh well, ciao.