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post Mar 13 2020, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Mar 12 2020, 09:07 PM)
Ingress or egress is a problem for most of the condos in BJ as long as there are other condos or residential nearby... Car parked at roadside is common sight around KL areas as well... You dont tell me tropika or the park there wont have such issue...

What i emphasize here is the density, freehold status and its distance to lrt stations that make the pricing somehow balance out...

And i dont think tropika latest pricing for smallest size is at 7xxpsf... Not comparing against the earlier phases ya.. and the jalil perkasa there also jam like nobody business
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Ingress and egress is not just about direct accessibility, it's also included the path before and after, and for other surrounding condos who are using the same path, particularly for this project, deemed high end at this area.

I was being informed, the main entrance of this project could facing the shop-lot aka industrial based, where currently a bit heavily used by ZR and Casa Green, a 2 way road usually parked both sides day or night causing incoming cars have difficulty to flow. Jam is another question, but flow and ambience.

The flow to exit to Jalan 4/155 it is small nightmare now, and upon exiting only 2 lane which the incoming cars from Muhibbah LRT are jam packed peak hour and needed to squeeze to single way as the Bukit OUG residents double park left side and right side.

Tropika would be facing similar but much much lesser hectic as above. There are 2 lanes each way at main entrance, only share with golf club visitors and Link 2. Upon exit to busy main road, I know got car double car along the Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1, only on one side, and it's 3 lanes each way. Furthermore, the junction of this exit now is earmark for traffic light to ease the flow. It would be huge boost because the flow to turn to BJ highway and Kesas highway will be better, albeit jam along the way.

But Park Sky have lesser issue or ingress & egress, it's direct and more comfortable. The main entrance exit to new opening road of 3 lanes each way. The whole stretch of the road is only using by Park Sky 1 and 2. The feeling to exit at Park Sky road and Tropika's road is a lot difference compare to road next to Bukit OUG.

I doesn't want to troll the project here until I get much more project information such as actual land size, facade design, facilities, landscaping and furnishing or specs within the unit. I remain my interest into Exsim projects.

Btw, Tropika's mid size is 974 sq ft, a more comparable to middle size here, 950 sq ft. The high floor unit at current Block B, is RM 798 psf.
Earlier phase? Mid floor still available for Block A is only at RM 730-740 psf and free MOT.

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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Mar 13 2020, 12:03 AM)
Ingress and egress is not just about direct accessibility, it's also included the path before and after, and for other surrounding condos who are using the same path, particularly for this project, deemed high end at this area.

I was being informed, the main entrance of this project could facing the shop-lot aka industrial based, where currently a bit heavily used by ZR and Casa Green, a 2 way road usually parked both sides day or night causing incoming cars have difficulty to flow. Jam is another question, but flow and ambience.

The flow to exit to Jalan 4/155 it is small nightmare now, and upon exiting only 2 lane which the incoming cars from Muhibbah LRT are jam packed peak hour and needed to squeeze to single way as the Bukit OUG residents double park left side and right side. 

Tropika would be facing similar but much much lesser hectic as above. There are 2 lanes each way at main entrance, only share with golf club visitors and Link 2. Upon exit to busy main road, I know got car double car along the Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1, only on one side, and it's 3 lanes each way. Furthermore, the junction of this exit now is earmark for traffic light to ease the flow. It would be huge boost because the flow to turn to BJ highway and Kesas highway will be better, albeit jam along the way.

But Park Sky have lesser issue or ingress & egress, it's direct and more comfortable. The main entrance exit to new opening road of 3 lanes each way. The whole stretch of the road is only using by Park Sky 1 and 2. The feeling to exit at Park Sky road and Tropika's road is a lot difference compare to road next to Bukit OUG.

I doesn't want to troll the project here until I get much more project information such as actual land size, facade design, facilities, landscaping and furnishing or specs within the unit. I remain my interest into Exsim projects.

Btw, Tropika's mid size is 974 sq ft, a more comparable to middle size here, 950 sq ft. The high floor unit at current Block B, is RM 798 psf.
Earlier phase? Mid floor still available for Block A is only at RM 730-740 psf and free MOT.
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Got add on road bro, no Worry. Refer my first post

But More to come bro, opposite of Rosewoodz, another service apartment incoming. But after changing PH. Tidak lulus. But now change back, hehehe. Apa pun boleh de.

CADANGAN PEMBANGUNAN 1 BLOK PANGSAPURI SERVIS 27 TINGKAT (300 UNIT) YANG MENGANDUNGI 7 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DA KEMUDAHAN PENDUDUK DI ATAS LOT 36452, JALAN 4/155, MUKIM PETALING, DAERAH KUALA LUMPUR, WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR oleh TETUAN GLOBAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SDN BHD, LOT 23, JALAN KUANG BULAN, TAMAN KEPONG, 52100 KEPONG, KUALA LUMPUR. TEL 0362801621/FAKS 0362801620 di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur

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QUOTE(cliffekent @ Mar 12 2020, 03:00 PM)
CADANGAN PEMBANGUNAN 1 BLOCK PANGSAPURI SUITE 41 TINGKAT (329 UNIT), BESERTA 7 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA, 1 UNIT PENCAWANG ELEKTRIK, 1 UNIT RUMAH SAMPAH DAN KEMUDAHAN PENDUDUK DI ATAS LOT 36450, MUKIM PETALING, DAERAH KUALA LUMPUR, WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR

Launching in April 2020

Freehold
1 Block
329 units
780sf - 2 rooms + 2 baths
950sf - 3 rooms + 2 baths
1,165sf - 3+1 rooms + 2 baths
all 2 carpark

700+- psf
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post Mar 13 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Mar 13 2020, 12:03 AM)
Ingress and egress is not just about direct accessibility, it's also included the path before and after, and for other surrounding condos who are using the same path, particularly for this project, deemed high end at this area.

I was being informed, the main entrance of this project could facing the shop-lot aka industrial based, where currently a bit heavily used by ZR and Casa Green, a 2 way road usually parked both sides day or night causing incoming cars have difficulty to flow. Jam is another question, but flow and ambience.

The flow to exit to Jalan 4/155 it is small nightmare now, and upon exiting only 2 lane which the incoming cars from Muhibbah LRT are jam packed peak hour and needed to squeeze to single way as the Bukit OUG residents double park left side and right side. 

Tropika would be facing similar but much much lesser hectic as above. There are 2 lanes each way at main entrance, only share with golf club visitors and Link 2. Upon exit to busy main road, I know got car double car along the Jalan Jalil Perkasa 1, only on one side, and it's 3 lanes each way. Furthermore, the junction of this exit now is earmark for traffic light to ease the flow. It would be huge boost because the flow to turn to BJ highway and Kesas highway will be better, albeit jam along the way.

But Park Sky have lesser issue or ingress & egress, it's direct and more comfortable. The main entrance exit to new opening road of 3 lanes each way. The whole stretch of the road is only using by Park Sky 1 and 2. The feeling to exit at Park Sky road and Tropika's road is a lot difference compare to road next to Bukit OUG.

I doesn't want to troll the project here until I get much more project information such as actual land size, facade design, facilities, landscaping and furnishing or specs within the unit. I remain my interest into Exsim projects.

Btw, Tropika's mid size is 974 sq ft, a more comparable to middle size here, 950 sq ft. The high floor unit at current Block B, is RM 798 psf.
Earlier phase? Mid floor still available for Block A is only at RM 730-740 psf and free MOT.
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the latest phase of the tropika smallest size i think its almost 900psf... if wanna compare pricing... of course compare to the latest only... like I say.. how to compare to apple to apple when Block A Block B launched way earlier at lower pricing and still have availability to date...

I'm not exsim supporter... but i believe in the density and how close this located to the main road rather than those ZR, Casa green etc that you mentioned about which is way further inside... and rmb one more thing... the accessibility to LRT... for most of the developments in KL now... you will need to surrender part of your land to authority to widen the access road... but usually this will end up useless because cars will just park at the enlarged lane... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif doesnt matter if your condo worth 900psf or 600psf... same shit always happen...
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post Mar 13 2020, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Mar 12 2020, 09:07 PM)
Ingress or egress is a problem for most of the condos in BJ as long as there are other condos or residential nearby... Car parked at roadside is common sight around KL areas as well... You dont tell me tropika or the park there wont have such issue...

What i emphasize here is the density, freehold status and its distance to lrt stations that make the pricing somehow balance out...

And i dont think tropika latest pricing for smallest size is at 7xxpsf... Not comparing against the earlier phases ya.. and the jalil perkasa there also jam like nobody business
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you macam sudah endorsed this project... can be ambassador ... brows.gif
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post Mar 13 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Mar 13 2020, 09:59 AM)
you macam sudah endorsed this project... can be ambassador ...  brows.gif
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have bias towards project less than 400 units... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2020, 11:44 AM

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waiting for statistic on comparison between this versus the como nearby
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post Mar 13 2020, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Mar 13 2020, 09:33 AM)
the latest phase of the tropika smallest size i think its almost 900psf... if wanna compare pricing... of course compare to the latest only... like I say.. how to compare to apple to apple when Block A Block B launched way earlier at lower pricing and still have availability to date...

I'm not exsim supporter... but i believe in the density and how close this located to the main road rather than those ZR, Casa green etc that you mentioned about which is way further inside... and rmb one more thing... the accessibility to LRT... for most of the developments in KL now... you will need to surrender part of your land to authority to widen the access road... but usually this will end up useless because cars will just park at the enlarged lane...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif doesnt matter if your condo worth 900psf or 600psf... same shit always happen...
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Tropika's Block B just launched few months only worr and now still on-going, of course purchasers who look into this Rosewoodz will also look into Tropika or any surrounding project with units available as comparison. Block B's smallest unit 732 sq feet, highest floor Level 40 is RM 851 per sq feet, consider high side since Berjaya is so plain.

Only Block A launched way earlier, but only 732 sq feet is fully sold, there are Type B's 974 sq feet left and plenty of of Type C's 1318 sq feet left. I am using current, Block B's 974 sq feet (mid size) as comparison to Rosewoodz mid size of 930 sq feet.

I am not Tropika supporter. It shown that RM 750-850 per sq feet, they only achieving moderate sales, who have upper hand in location, land size, extraordinary view compare to here and it's better surrounding.

It's okay that if you think RM 700+ to 800 per sq feet is normal for Bukit OUG area as long as it is by Exsim or density even though so small parcel land. I will be more interested to see Exsim would be selling at most around RM 650 psf since 1000-1200 sq ft at Casa Green, ZR and KR2 is only RM 550 per sq feet.

Nah, accessibility to LRT is USP or key selling point one decade ago, now is just normal USP. Plenty of condos nowadays are near LRT or MRT.
The pricing the higher it is towards North, nearing LRT is not a good idea. Nothing to shout about LRT.

Oh ya, the highest asking price at this enclave is The Rainz, also by Exsim, high density for units 1500+ sq feet onwards, are still selling below RM 600 per sq feet, not much changes compare to developer selling price about 5-6 years back.
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post Mar 13 2020, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(cliffekent @ Mar 13 2020, 12:27 AM)
Got add on road bro, no Worry. Refer my first post

But More to come bro, opposite of Rosewoodz, another service apartment incoming. But after changing PH. Tidak lulus. But now change back, hehehe. Apa pun boleh de.

CADANGAN PEMBANGUNAN 1 BLOK PANGSAPURI SERVIS 27 TINGKAT (300 UNIT) YANG MENGANDUNGI 7 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DA KEMUDAHAN PENDUDUK DI ATAS LOT 36452, JALAN 4/155, MUKIM PETALING, DAERAH KUALA LUMPUR, WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR oleh TETUAN GLOBAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SDN BHD, LOT 23, JALAN KUANG BULAN, TAMAN KEPONG, 52100 KEPONG, KUALA LUMPUR. TEL 0362801621/FAKS 0362801620 di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur
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Thanks for info bro!

Wah, another 27 storey + 7 storey podium car park project opposite ah? Now by PN, sure can lulus dy and probably can increase density or plot ratio.
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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Mar 13 2020, 01:04 PM)
Thanks for info bro!

Wah, another 27 storey + 7 storey podium car park project opposite ah? Now by PN, sure can lulus dy and probably can increase density or plot ratio.
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7 storey of car park podium...who get 7th floor will feel the pain everyday in and out...

Casa Green got the best design for car park...in term of accessibility, car park lot size and orientation... 7 storey but got 2 access points... and all car parks given side by side...
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rosewoodZ remind me of counterfeit goods; looks the same, sound the same but is not the same.

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Don't think there is additional space for new access road unless it is bypass type. Too congested already that area. Plus potential termite issue.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 13 2020, 02:28 PM)
Don't think there is additional space for new access road unless it is bypass type. Too congested already that area. Plus potential termite issue.
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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Mar 13 2020, 01:00 PM)
Tropika's Block B just launched few months only worr and now still on-going, of course purchasers who look into this Rosewoodz will also look into Tropika or any surrounding project with units available as comparison. Block B's smallest unit 732 sq feet, highest floor Level 40 is RM 851 per sq feet, consider high side since Berjaya is so plain.

Only Block A launched way earlier, but only 732 sq feet is fully sold, there are Type B's 974 sq feet left and plenty of of Type C's 1318 sq feet left. I am using current, Block B's 974 sq feet (mid size) as comparison to Rosewoodz mid size of 930 sq feet.

I am not Tropika supporter. It shown that RM 750-850 per sq feet, they only achieving moderate sales, who have upper hand in location, land size, extraordinary view compare to here and it's better surrounding.

It's okay that if you think RM 700+ to 800 per sq feet is normal for Bukit OUG area as long as it is by Exsim or density even though so small parcel land. I will be more interested to see Exsim would be selling at most around RM 650 psf since 1000-1200 sq ft at Casa Green, ZR and KR2 is only RM 550 per sq feet.

Nah, accessibility to LRT is USP or key selling point one decade ago, now is just normal USP. Plenty of condos nowadays are near LRT or MRT.
The pricing the higher it is towards North, nearing LRT is not a good idea. Nothing to shout about LRT.

Oh ya, the highest asking price at this enclave is The Rainz, also by Exsim, high density for units 1500+ sq feet onwards, are still selling below RM 600 per sq feet, not much changes compare to developer selling price about 5-6 years back.
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Pay what you get.

Casa green vs rosewoodz

500psf vs 700++

Leasehold vs freehold
900++ units vs 329 units
3b3b vs 3b2b
1003sf vs 950sf
500k vs 700k
Installment 2500 vs 3500
Room Rental 2900 vs ??
Lrt further vs lrt nearer
Maintainance fees Lower vs higher

Current Casa green rental rate

Fully: 2000-2500

Room rental
Master 850
Medium 800
Balcony 650
Single 600

I only see data, if you think the rental can cover 3500. Go ahead. Good luck.

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Poor rental yield at bk jalil. Only for own stay purpose.
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Mar 13 2020, 09:07 PM)
Poor rental yield at bk jalil. Only for own stay purpose.
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Huh, case green positive cash flow oh.
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QUOTE(cliffekent @ Mar 14 2020, 12:54 AM)
Huh, case green positive cash flow oh.
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If 500k can rented out at "2500", after monthly installments, maintenance fees etc... That Positive ah.... Oklor. Lol

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Mar 14 2020, 01:01 AM)
If 500k rented out at 2500, after monthly installments, maintenance fees etc... That Positive ah.... Oklor. Lol
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Got 3 units there.... Every day agents begging for units... Tenants begging for car parks... Casa Green perform very well... When people say BJ not good for investment... Is good for me... Can grab as much as possible units in cheaper price, 😎

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