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Pay slip and offer letter
Pay slip and offer letter
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Feb 18 2020, 09:37 PM
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Epf kan ada
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Feb 18 2020, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 08:24 PM) Hello kopitiam, I have a dilemma. Recently my company have been recruiting new staff for various position. One of which is a position within my department. Everything went well and there's an able candidate that have passed all the checks and interview and now only require my signature to process his offer letter. Mohon ipohmali AKA Aaron Ong masuk meet satu kepala geng is this your dupe aaron ongHere's the thing. The candidate had submitted the usual documents for offer letter processing including the latest pay slip from his current company. I took a look at the pay slip and immediately notice the candidate current salary which I believe is too high. I do not have proof but I have a gut feeling the salary slip is doctered or photoshopped because for his level of experience and years of service, it is still a good 40% more. I'm familiar of the candidate current company and the pay slip format is correct. I have spoken to HR about this and they said they cannot verify and that it's not that unusual for the difference in pay. I would like some of you experts or have experience this same dilemma as me for some feedback. Is there anyway for me to verify the salary slip? I'm hoping for some insight before I decide if I should call the candidate current company for verification. Thanks for any input |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM
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Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM
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the jealousy is strong in this thread.
my advise is just move on. pointless to butthurt over a spilled milk. |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM
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there is a chinese saying
dont hire someone you dont trust, hire someone you should trust him/her |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM
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Sounds like most people here would want people who doctored credential to work for them...........
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Feb 18 2020, 09:40 PM
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Jus close 1 eye and approve la...
Not ur father comp pun or mother money... Kasi chan la... |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:41 PM
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This show pay slip thingy is among the stupid practice done here in malaysia. Just because some so called smart alec did it before, the rest just follow.
It is just to lowball candidate, nothing else. If see current pay higher than what can pay, buat bodoh and push for what they can pay. Like that, don’t request from the beginning if have own idea how much to pay. Should stop this nonsense practice. |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:43 PM
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pay slip not pnc meh?
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Feb 18 2020, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:11 PM) Everyone, this candidate is not a fresh grad. The candidate is a 15 year veteran and my company is offering a position that is both an upgrade to his title and wages. The candidate already got the job so to speak. This dilemma of mine is about doctered salary slip. Not about the worth of the candidate because ALREADY GREEN LIT FOR APPOINTMENT. The salary indicated in suspected slip has no bearing because we offered way more. If it is your concern on "doctored" pay slip, then call him personally and interview him face to face again, test his integrity. If really suspicious about this, and yet do not want to spend more time, look for other people then. All the above does not absolve the fact that it could be doctored and that's a whole different story. If we request further documents, it would require a proper explanation. Any explanation given would indicate suspicion, even though it's just my own gut feeling but then the wheels of SOP would turn. Any suspicion of fake credential must be investigated throughly and the candidate letter of appointment will be withheld indefinitely until concrete proof provided. This ladies and gents, is not how I want my newest staff to start their employment. Especially if we will be working closely. I'm asking for idea that doesn't turn all this upside down on the off chance the slip is genuine. It would not look good honestly, if me, i will not provide my payslip, as it is related to my personal experience and knowledge. You decide how much I worth and to pay, not based on the past payslip. If he is really good and deserves the amount your company agreed upon, then hire lor |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:43 PM
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Feb 18 2020, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM) if dont iike then just dont hire la......u scared because it had been approved, you will get into problem if you dont sign? you thoughts are clouding your judgement. if you do not agree to employ this person, then just skip. there are other candidates there for you to choose, right? unless the one you choose is not favoured by your superiors la....... |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM) You push people with underhanded moves like pay slips, then get back underhanded lash back and complain?Fuck off lah. You don't deserve honesty or loyal employees. |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:47 PM
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if interviews all pass and you want the candidate,bayar jer lah,if not afford,interviews others,why so butthurt?
you own the company is it? |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 08:24 PM) Hello kopitiam, I have a dilemma. Recently my company have been recruiting new staff for various position. One of which is a position within my department. Everything went well and there's an able candidate that have passed all the checks and interview and now only require my signature to process his offer letter. why you care how much he earns in his previous job???Here's the thing. The candidate had submitted the usual documents for offer letter processing including the latest pay slip from his current company. I took a look at the pay slip and immediately notice the candidate current salary which I believe is too high. I do not have proof but I have a gut feeling the salary slip is doctered or photoshopped because for his level of experience and years of service, it is still a good 40% more. I'm familiar of the candidate current company and the pay slip format is correct. I have spoken to HR about this and they said they cannot verify and that it's not that unusual for the difference in pay. I would like some of you experts or have experience this same dilemma as me for some feedback. Is there anyway for me to verify the salary slip? I'm hoping for some insight before I decide if I should call the candidate current company for verification. Thanks for any input your company is paying for his future efforts, just monitor during his probation if justified for salary. RM1 is also considered too much for goons |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:11 PM) Everyone, this candidate is not a fresh grad. The candidate is a 15 year veteran and my company is offering a position that is both an upgrade to his title and wages. The candidate already got the job so to speak. This dilemma of mine is about doctered salary slip. Not about the worth of the candidate because ALREADY GREEN LIT FOR APPOINTMENT. The salary indicated in suspected slip has no bearing because we offered way more. What if you are wrong? How will you remedy it?All the above does not absolve the fact that it could be doctored and that's a whole different story. If we request further documents, it would require a proper explanation. Any explanation given would indicate suspicion, even though it's just my own gut feeling but then the wheels of SOP would turn. Any suspicion of fake credential must be investigated throughly and the candidate letter of appointment will be withheld indefinitely until concrete proof provided. This ladies and gents, is not how I want my newest staff to start their employment. Especially if we will be working closely. I'm asking for idea that doesn't turn all this upside down on the off chance the slip is genuine. It would not look good |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 08:24 PM) Hello kopitiam, I have a dilemma. Recently my company have been recruiting new staff for various position. One of which is a position within my department. Everything went well and there's an able candidate that have passed all the checks and interview and now only require my signature to process his offer letter. Either call him back from interview, clarify this matter with him, or just go ahead and go through with the hiring process. You basically have no proof, but you're so hung up on him doctoring the payslip. It's no longer a matter of you not wanting to work with someone "with no integrity", it's becoming more of a "I was right all along" mentality. It's personal to you now, just look at your responses in the thread.Here's the thing. The candidate had submitted the usual documents for offer letter processing including the latest pay slip from his current company. I took a look at the pay slip and immediately notice the candidate current salary which I believe is too high. I do not have proof but I have a gut feeling the salary slip is doctered or photoshopped because for his level of experience and years of service, it is still a good 40% more. I'm familiar of the candidate current company and the pay slip format is correct. I have spoken to HR about this and they said they cannot verify and that it's not that unusual for the difference in pay. I would like some of you experts or have experience this same dilemma as me for some feedback. Is there anyway for me to verify the salary slip? I'm hoping for some insight before I decide if I should call the candidate current company for verification. Thanks for any input |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:39 PM) If he has the skills to back it up then why not. The salary he requested has been approved. So it is still under budget. That simply means now he is paid with what he deserved. |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:48 PM) why you care how much he earns in his previous job??? with TS experience mind set yet can be hired as HR,i know the company have no future already...your company is paying for his future efforts, just monitor during his probation if justified for salary. RM1 is also considered too much for goons soli ah TS,i know truth hurt! |
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Feb 18 2020, 09:55 PM
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