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SUSCmyong88
post Feb 18 2020, 08:24 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hello kopitiam, I have a dilemma. Recently my company have been recruiting new staff for various position. One of which is a position within my department. Everything went well and there's an able candidate that have passed all the checks and interview and now only require my signature to process his offer letter.

Here's the thing. The candidate had submitted the usual documents for offer letter processing including the latest pay slip from his current company. I took a look at the pay slip and immediately notice the candidate current salary which I believe is too high. I do not have proof but I have a gut feeling the salary slip is doctered or photoshopped because for his level of experience and years of service, it is still a good 40% more. I'm familiar of the candidate current company and the pay slip format is correct. I have spoken to HR about this and they said they cannot verify and that it's not that unusual for the difference in pay.

I would like some of you experts or have experience this same dilemma as me for some feedback. Is there anyway for me to verify the salary slip? I'm hoping for some insight before I decide if I should call the candidate current company for verification.

Thanks for any input
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:26 PM

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I'll be able to better help if you can upload the "doctered or photoshopped" slip here.
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:26 PM

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call the candidate company HR directly..
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:28 PM

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Ask candidate share the income tax and epf lar
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Feb 18 2020, 08:28 PM)
Ask candidate share the income tax and epf lar
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:29 PM

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Hi Aaron Ong
SUSCmyong88
post Feb 18 2020, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(pot-8-O's @ Feb 18 2020, 08:26 PM)
I'll be able to better help if you can upload the "doctered or photoshopped" slip here.
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Sorry I cannot share that.

QUOTE(Baconateer @ Feb 18 2020, 08:26 PM)
call the candidate company HR directly..
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Have you encounter this problem before? I have absolutely no proof. It's merely a feeling and experience on my side that makes me think it's doctered. Calling up the candidate HR would give up the game
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Feb 18 2020, 08:28 PM)
Ask candidate share the income tax and epf lar
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EPF is P&C la.
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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 08:30 PM)
Have you encounter this problem before? I have absolutely no proof. It's merely a feeling and experience on my side that makes me think it's doctered. Calling up the candidate HR would give up the game
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of cos not..im not in the HR field..

or u can find some who is very pro in photoshop...
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:31 PM

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The is no law stated employer valid to check the employee or next employee payslip etc. PPDA does covered for employee instead as normal citizen.

Lu tarak duit mau bayar gaji. Move on..why want to kiasu cheapsake klu sudah ada budget?
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:33 PM

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Why not? If jelly cakap je la.
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QUOTE(haimirmaya @ Feb 18 2020, 08:31 PM)
The is no law stated employer valid to check the employee or next employee payslip etc. PPDA does covered for employee instead as normal citizen.

Lu tarak duit mau bayar gaji. Move on..why want to kiasu cheapsake klu sudah ada budget?
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:34 PM

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salary should be what the role deserves. not what the candidate's last drawn salary. his last salary shouldn't matter if you already decided he is worth hiring at the salary that your company offers

it's people like you that makes job hunting a pain in the ass.
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:34 PM

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To be honest, I don't like the culture of Malaysia to share the payslip.
The offer should be based on the performance of the individual and his/her experience. It should follow the market rate for those experience and capability.

I believed that one of the reason why people are moving out from Malaysia because they are not being compensated well. People in Malaysia tend to move to another companies after one or two years, I think personally due to this also.

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post Feb 18 2020, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Feb 18 2020, 08:26 PM)
call the candidate company HR directly..
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no. never ever do this. this is unethical!!!!

ask HR to call the candidate, ask for evidence that the salary is banked into account, oe EA form etc.....
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(hioniq @ Feb 18 2020, 08:28 PM)
Ask candidate share the income tax and epf lar
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Not in SOP. Also hard to justify to candidate for such documents.

QUOTE(Baconateer @ Feb 18 2020, 08:31 PM)
of cos not..im not in the HR field..

or u can find some who is very pro in photoshop...
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Sorry forgot to clarify that the pay slip is not original. It's a photocopied. It's clear and I'm familiar with that company's pay slip look genuine. Only the basic figure I find odd

QUOTE(haimirmaya @ Feb 18 2020, 08:31 PM)
The is no law stated employer valid to check the employee or next employee payslip etc. PPDA does covered for employee instead as normal citizen.

Lu tarak duit mau bayar gaji. Move on..why want to kiasu cheapsake klu sudah ada budget?
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I can double the salary of everyone in my department but that doesn't mean I should. We are already willing to give an offer to the candidate but if my guess is true, it's a major red flag for me. It's less about the money and more about integrity
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Feb 18 2020, 09:35 PM)
no. never ever do this. this is unethical!!!!

ask HR to call the candidate, ask for evidence that the salary is banked into account, oe EA form etc.....
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 08:24 PM)
Hello kopitiam, I have a dilemma. Recently my company have been recruiting new staff for various position. One of which is a position within my department. Everything went well and there's an able candidate that have passed all the checks and interview and now only require my signature to process his offer letter.

Here's the thing. The candidate had submitted the usual documents for offer letter processing including the latest pay slip from his current company. I took a look at the pay slip and immediately notice the candidate current salary which I believe is too high. I do not have proof but I have a gut feeling the salary slip is doctered or photoshopped because for his level of experience and years of service, it is still a good 40% more. I'm familiar of the candidate current company and the pay slip format is correct. I have spoken to HR about this and they said they cannot verify and that it's not that unusual for the difference in pay.

I would like some of you experts or have experience this same dilemma as me for some feedback. Is there anyway for me to verify the salary slip? I'm hoping for some insight before I decide if I should call the candidate current company for verification.

Thanks for any input
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I'm pretty sure you are not from the financial industry if you can say like that.

For financial institutions (Bank/investment/insurance), BNM has already set a strict screening rule.

It is compulsory for the prospective company to contact the past employers for up to 7 years to check on their background.

one of the key screening is of course to check with present company on employment records & also salary verification.


First time I hear a HR saying dunno what to do when they think the salary slip is forged.... sweat.gif
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post Feb 18 2020, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Feb 18 2020, 08:38 PM)
I can double the salary of everyone in my department but that doesn't mean I should. We are already willing to give an offer to the candidate but if my guess is true, it's a major red flag for me. It's less about the money and more about integrity
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so why don't you lol

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