Sorry to burst your bubble..

Sorry to burst their bubble, but they are delusional.

Please note that my POV is just for muslims, not for you guys here.

In the religion there can't be LGBT. This attempt to normalize it is just liberalization wave going on. Which is wrong in the religion.

those who say u LGBT then LGBT diam diam one all bodoh

people want show love,hold hands , hug in public also cannot because orang bodo

Of course LGBT can exist in Islam.

There are lots of gay imams in the world especially in the west. Recently there is a growing number of Islamic scholars too who are pointing out the various inconsistencies of anti-LGBT hadiths and verses in the Koran. They concluded that they were all misinterpreted by scholars before them.

Liberalization is good. It is what drove our ancestors out of slavery and gave various basic human rights for women such as your mom and sister. The next wave of liberalization is finally recognising same-sex relationships and it is going to happen regardless of how you want Islam to be stuck in the 6th century.

Nope.

The scripts can't change. The words of the holy book is preserved until eternity. It still is a morally wrong in syariah jurisdiction.

Its clear cut. Nothing about inconsistencies. All major ulama agrees. Notice how the west starts to twist? Because they want to make this a norm. There is no such things as gay imams. These are bidaah, blasphemy.

Human rights for women have been granted since the 6th century. Did you know back in the days, the arabic people of old mecca and most other cultures have been burying their women child alive just because they are deemed unworthy? Islam came and changed all that, and put women on such high regards.

The holy book of Koran are not interchangable and be twisted like other religion's book. Its because you didn't study the religion from a proper channel, then you get this kind of stereotypes.

Of course this would be better debated in RWI, so i'm gonna stop here. You can always find me in RWI should you want to debate about it. And please, i'm just here to convey the truth and have done my part.

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The Islamic scholars who are supportive are LGBT never propose to make edits on the original texts. They were only arguing that the texts were grossly misinterpreted and the homophobic hadiths are lack in credibility

I'm glad you decided to stop here because I don't think I'm able to continue debating when this starts to go into the realm of conspiracies ("The West" trying to destroy Islam by purposely trying to come up with alternative views). Apparently everything that Amina Wadud has studied on Arabic, Islamic studies and philosophy up to PhD level is invalidated because she comes from the west.

Thank you for your input, nevertheless. I think I have done my part as well. I pray you will be able to open up to love and tolerate people who comes from different backgrounds.

Cheers!

Bro, I don't mind if you say you gay and don't like women. As long you don't have sexual relation with men that fine. Can you just have normal friendship with men.

Contrary to popular beliefs, not all gay people go around harrassing straight men. We do have standards la.

I do have a bf and I only have sex with him.

MENA LGBTQ+ activists slam Facebook for not removing posts calling for gay people to be killed
Source: https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/community/138073...e-to-be-killed/



Posts about throwing gay people off of buildings were deemed not to have violated community guidelines.

LGBTQ+ activists from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) have slammed Facebook after the platform refused to take action against posts which called for gay people to be killed.

One post, shown to Gay Star News, read: “If you think it’s your right to act on sodomy/ homosexuality, then it’s my right to throw you off the roof.”

Activists reported the post, but Facebook didn’t take action, saying “it doesn’t go against our community standards, including hate speech.”

Activists also reported an account, whose avatar depicts a stick figure kicking another rainbow stick figure in the stomach. The account’s posts are universally all anti-LGBTQ+ including pictures of burning Pride flags and rainbows being swept into the gutter.

Another post from a homophobic user depicts an Islamic warrior standing against a crowd of LGBTQ+ people, Black Lives Matter protesters and features anti-Semitic imagery. And another post shows Egyptian LGBTQ+ activist, Sarah Hegazi, who recently took her own life, burning in animated flames.

Campaigners from Egypt, Morocco, Russia, Sudan, Syria and Tunisia have now signed an open letter to Facebook, calling out the social media platform. Part of the letter read: “The MENA LGBTQI+ community has been reporting thousands of Arabic hate speech posts targeting women in general, and people of different sexual orientations in particular.

“Most of these reports were declined because the content ‘did not contradict the Facebook community standards.’ This is due to the lax implementation of effective anti-hate speech policies in our region, which makes the platform unsafe for sexual minorities.”

The letter calls on Facebook to adopt universal policies on hate speech and train staff in LGBTQ+ matters. It also asks for meetings with senior Facebook figures until the matter is resolved.

Speaking to Reuters, Adam Muhammed, the executive director of the Morocco-based ATYAF Collective, said: “In the U.S. and Europe, there is no room to spread hate speech against any sexual orientation, race, religion, sect or any other social group.”

In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said: “We do not allow death threats, attacks or hate speech directed at the LGBTQI+ community.

“We use a combination of user reports and technology to find this content and remove it. This includes expert teams who review reports of hate speech 24/7 in more than 50 languages, including Arabic, and AI tools that find nearly 90% of the hate speech we remove before users report it to us.

“We know we have more work to do here and we’ll continue to work closely with members of the LGBTQI+ community in the Middle East and North Africa to address this abhorrent behaviour.”

They added they were in regular dialogue with outside experts and organisations in order to get input on their Community Standards and enforcement processes.

They also disputed part of the open letter, saying: “Facebook is a global service, so these rules [on hate speech] apply to everyone – including people in the Middle East and North Africa.”

Facebook still has a mixed history with LGBTQ+ people. In the past, it has removed homophobic content, but it has also allowed content spreading misinformation against PrEP to be published on the website.

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Facebook is increasingly supportive of hate speech. What a way to build your legacy, Mark Zuckerberg.

New York City Pride was canceled this year because of COVID-19, but a smaller celebration, the Queer Liberation March for Black Lives and Against Police Brutality, went ahead as planned.

The march is only in its second year, but it became the de-facto in-person Pride event for New York City in 2020. It also fell at a time when police brutality protests were already raging across the country, sparked by the killing of George Floyd in May, and one year after the death of Layleen Polanco, a transgender woman who died in police custody at Rikers Island prison.

The event was organized by the Reclaim Pride Coalition, a group dedicated to getting back to the roots of the LGBTQ rights movement by rejecting police presence in, and corporate influence over, Pride events.

I am a straight guy and i feel theres a need to say that i support you all in the LGBTIQ+ community on who you are as a person. There shouldnt be discrimination in the society, and everyone should be treated as the way one would like to be treated back.

I have close gay friends who always joke asking me to come out but we are all joking (i hope they are too lol). But yes, support for u alls!

Thanks so much for your support!

We are all individuals and we should respect each other as a human being regardless of race, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

Thanks again! You seem like a cool and chill guy who is comfortable with your own sexuality and can joke about it!

Gender segregation at cinemas starts today in Terengganu.

Good job Terengganu for being LGBT-friendly.

I thought that this has been for some time already?
Or is that Kelantan?

I'm not sure. I believe they stop operating cinemas altogether ever since PAS takes over.

A call to boycott IKEA for supporting LGBT rights.

Scotland will become the first country in the world to add LGBTQ+ history to school curriculum
Source: https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/community/138273...ool-curriculum/



In 2021, all public schools will receive lessons in issues faced by the LGBTQ+ community such as same-sex marriage, same-sex parenting, homophobia, biphobia, transphobia and the HIV and AIDS epidemic.

John Swinney, Deputy First Minister and Education Secretary, praised the historic news.

“Scotland is already considered one of the most progressive countries in Europe for LGBTI [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex] equality,” he said in a statement.

“I am delighted to announce we will be the first country in the world to have LGBTI inclusive education embedded within the curriculum.”

According to Edinburgh Live back in November 2018, Scottish Ministers accepted the recommendations in full to deliver LGBTQ+ inclusive education to improve children’s understanding of the LGBTQ+ history.

Last year, a study found that a majority of British people think primary schools should teach LGBTQ-inclusive lessons.

Amid protests and harmful debates around the topic of LGBTQ-inclusive education in UK schools, Stonewall have found that 60% of British people believe it’s right to teach kids about diverse families including those with same-sex parents.

Support is even higher among young people, as this figure increases to 68% for Brits aged 16-24.

Meanwhile, around one fifth (17%) of those surveyed said they disagreed or strongly disagreed with LGBTQ-inclusive teaching for primary school pupils.

“LGBT-inclusive education is life-changing teaching for so many young people, which is why it’s so powerful to see so much of the British public support the new legislation,” said Paul Twocock, Chief Executive at Stonewall.

“We owe it to the next generation to ensure our schools are a place where all children and young people can be themselves.

“It’s essential the Government invests more in training and resources to better prepare teachers and schools to deliver high-quality LGBT-inclusive teaching now and in the future.”

The new figures show how attitudes have changed since Stonewall was founded 30 years ago to fight against Section 28, a piece of legislation which banned conversations about same-sex relationships and the ‘promotion of homosexuality’ in schools.

While Section 28 was repealed in 2003, its negative effects still live on to this day. Two in five (40%) LGBTQ pupils are never taught anything about LGBTQ issues, and almost half (45%) are bullied for being LGBTQ.

Stonewall hopes this will start to change from September 2020, when secondary schools across England will be required to teach about sexual orientation and gender identity, and primary schools will teach about different types of families including LGBTQ families.

Another SJW. He/she should throw out every single piece of Ikea goods he/she has at home and never buy anything from them if that's the case.

Yeah. I just find it really funny because I've never witnessed this "boycotting power" she claimed Malaysia seem to have.

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