Nah no need tbh haha

So BN failed to unite everyone after 60 years in power? what they doing then?

So BN failed to unite everyone after 60 years in power? what they doing then?

Yes there will people criticize but who are these people? Backwood rednecks racists with crazy nationalistic pride. Any decent people are going to call them out.

Now bring back to Malaysia, Chinese are not immigrants trying to apply for citizenship or temporary living in Malaysia. If cannot communicate why are they doing just fine? Communication is a 2 way street la.

ask the government to cancel their citizenship lah bodoh.

Lol racist la tuuuu

I try to do "maintenance work" on my Bahasa on a fairly regular basis by looking for books to buy and read every time I am back in Malaysia.

Tried to make it a point to read one Bahasa book every two months, but nowadays, it is more like one book every six months....

Even in Hong Kong, I have several small books to keep me company, and a couple of "school level" reference books that I enjoy browsing through every now and then to put a knife sharpening rod to my makin lama makin teruk Bahasa levels....



I have several more Bahasa books and novels back in Malaysia that I have to lug over to HK next time I am back.

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US white people cool je no official language, protek minorities some more.

Only insecure people make noise about it.



This post has been edited by United Rulez: Jan 19 2020, 08:27 PM

instead of bashing around, what is ur solution to the current situation?

U will see ppl keep on bashing here instead of giving proper solution.

Can you give me an example of a serious political leader who will defend a citizen not being able to speak the national language?

What do you mean by a 2 way street? What language do you expect the government and civil service to speak? How do you even survive in Malaysia going to government offices without being able to speak the national language?

Double.

This post has been edited by mitun: Jan 19 2020, 08:36 PM

Reading is so effective to improve but I think if you don't have much time to read the books, the easier way is just to speak and communicate using the said language with native speakers. The fact that you actually have effort to keep BM skills sharp eventhough it's probably not much of a use since you always traveling overseas should be a good example to people

Saying must follow majority is not always true. It actually depends on the lingua Franca of that place.

Some countries don't have national language like in India. It become a mess till their citizens need to to communicate using English with each other, even more foreign language. Attempt to make Hindi, language with highest majority speaker a national language resulting to a huge protest from other states that don't speak Hindi. This also happen in Singapore, tho they adopt English as their main language and accepted Singlish as their new hybrid language lingua franca.

Some other countries have minority language as their national language. Eg. Pakistan national language is urdu despite Punjabi is the majority speakers with 45% while Urdu native speaker only 8%. However Urdu become their national language. Same with Indonesia that use Bahasa Indonesia which is a malayic language as the national language despite javanese is the majority race with 30%. Malayic root language native speaker was only less than 10% of the population. If you look at population clearly javanese followed by maduric and sundanese have more native speaker than malayic like minagkabau, Palembang and Banjar. Why? This is because they are following lingua Franca at their place. In South East asia, malayic language has been lingua Franca since long time ago so the current government just adopt it as it is the language that most people understand despite not being spoken by majority.

Our government the newly formed tanah Melayu and later Malaysia also inherit this malayic root language and standardize it to make BM. So here we are with BM as the national language. Not necessarily because it is language of the majority but because it is the lingua franca in this arcipelago since ages ago. We simply inherit it from out ancestors lingua franca

we have our own AG that cant speak malay?
but why are now taking ethics example from politicians? lol. i dont think any sane politician is gonna come out and say its ok as they want the majority vote.

communication is a two way street as in you cannot expect one party just say say say, if cannot survive then whats the issue, people will do whatever to survive? but the fact is many malaysian survive just as well without knowing malay.
same like how people say how can anyone survive without knowing english, but we have so many people surviving just as well.

maybe put aside the nationalist pride, and just treat everyone as equal and not be dick just because someone is different as you. everyone is going to have different language proficiency and culture, yes the country can set one as a national standard but not everyone is going to be following that standard and its ok. no need to view some group of people as lesser or second class la.

i dont think anyone here is against learning malay or picking it up, what some of us here are against the negativity and hostility towards those that do not speak the language.



This post has been edited by Ned_Fromthenorth: Jan 19 2020, 08:45 PM

The Chinese already migrated here since the 1800s, if most of them cannot speak Bahasa at all then how do they survived here until this very day in 2020?

And if you and your extremist kind still wanna cherry pick to insist each and every Chinese here to be able to speak Bahasa well, then as I had said before; please ensure each Malay boys and girls to pass the Bahasa exams in schools first.

Malu tu dibawa diri sendiri. Hormat pula diberikan oleh orang.

AG not being able to speak BM is a disgrace if you ask me. Then again I don’t think he can’t speak more like he’s out of practice.

Let me ask you then do you think it’s fine not to have a National language and everyone just speak whatever they want? No need for you to be able to communicate with your fellow citizens in a common language?

but plenty don't even act Malaysian

they speak tongsan national language and then belip in CCP propoganda that tongsan national language is their mother tongues.

they learn 5,000 characters tongsan writting but Don't Wanna learn 3 page of Malaysian alphabet

your racial/nationalist pride is showing again. lets put aside all the legality and stuffs, and view this from a neutral viewpoint.

then why cant malays pickup mandarin too if communication with fellow citizen is your main concern? majority of chinese people can speak malay, but can we say the same about majority of malays speaking mandarin?

if the need to speak similar language is such a compulsory needs then how do people go travel to overseas to other places with their own languages? this is global world d, no need everyone need to speak same language.

i dont speak a word of mandarin, i deal with many many chinese people that speak mandarin and cant speak any english. we are in the same field of business and expertise. im not going to undermine their expertise or knowledge just because they cannot speak the standard language of our field that is English. yes its annoying and sometimes give me more work, but its just that a minor nuisance hardly somethign that need me to view others as lesser.

sometimes i wonder what goes through people head when they held themself so high up and view others that is different as lesser. not saying you per se. just thinking out loud.

I am talking about professionals i met in singapore. Only one singaporean, and his BM was good.

I would call them unpatriotic. But since they are born in Malaysia, citizenship is their birth right.

Can you both stop this kind of fake news that our AG cannot speak Malay?

Watch this video of his speech in Malay; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeeFwesIFBY

This is the kind of fake news spreading by similarly saying that Chinese cannot speaks Malay.

This post has been edited by ykj: Jan 19 2020, 09:04 PM