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Jakim washes hands of ministry’s Ponggal letter, The game of Taichi begin News
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SerioseCat
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 Jan 15 2020, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 15 2020, 01:26 PM) Actually, it's true, JAKIM has no power to enforce a lot of things. They are the central body where people "refer to for coordinating and managing anything about Islam in Malaysia". So when people ask, "can a Muslim celebrate Ponggal?" for example, they will do some reading and meeting and come up with a unified statement: "No you can't". But can they enforce it? NO. Can they sue somebody who celebrated it? NO. Can they instruct other bodies or authorities to adopt their stand? NO. However, if any authoritative body decide to adopt it, then it can be enforced. So I think in the issue of Ponggal celebration, it's on KPM. This |
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McDullDull
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Jan 15 2020, 03:49 PM
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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...als-way/1784642The reply macam copy and paste from the issue last time... These snakes are dishonourable. Busukkan nama je.
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KittyKat
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Jan 15 2020, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Jan 15 2020, 01:25 PM) All cowards, in the end like PDRM. "Setakat nasihat saja" Kak Ros pun bagi nasihat mah... |
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spacelion
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Jan 15 2020, 03:52 PM
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wah only 2 DAP menteri
kalah teruk
the other troll managed to get 7 menteri
cmon JAKIM so shit must bubar . useless.
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SUS8bitguy
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Jan 15 2020, 03:52 PM
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Just kasi this stupid JAKIM tutup kedai and let Ministry decides 100%. Then there is nobody eles to blame. JAKIM is a farking waste of taxpayer's money.
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SUSMicozole
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Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 15 2020, 03:46 PM) Itu JAWI, JAIS, JAIJ etc (all the states got one). Not JAKIM. damn didnt know we have so many apa beza semua tu? |
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netmatrix
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Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jan 15 2020, 01:17 PM) jakim should just fuck off. Nope Jakim should not fuck off. But Jakim should fuck those who use them to make a statement. Especially those "country fuckers" responsible for the first line in the letter that says consultation from Jakim. Must weed out these bangsa country fuckers. |
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ihavenoidea
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Jan 15 2020, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(JoGaki @ Jan 15 2020, 01:27 PM) Pongal is harvest festival. Hindus respect the mother earth and sun for providing facilities.. there is nothing beyond this.. If you dont like stay away. but dont impose fanatics rule on kids Later harvest festival in sabah will come another statement say larangan by jakim lg. |
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DarkNite
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Jan 15 2020, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jan 15 2020, 01:22 PM) Just ban this poisonous organization that makan gaji buta, tangkap basah, provide no benefit but creates lots of liability. Cancer to society. G25 finds formation of Jakim, National Council of Islamic Affairs unconstitutional! THE federal Islamic Development Department (Jakim) is unconstitutional as no law in Malaysia allows for its establishment, said a former senior judge. Former Court of Appeal judge Hishamudin Yunus said Jakim was created through an administrative decision and was originally intended to serve as a secretariat for the Council of Rulers. |
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SUS8bitguy
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Jan 15 2020, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(pauleta85 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:12 PM) now u create hatred among indias.. good.. u win liao Chinese Hate: Achievement Unlocked India Hate: Achievement Unlocked » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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SUS8bitguy
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Jan 15 2020, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Jan 15 2020, 01:16 PM) KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 15 — The controversy is the latest related to a cultural celebration in Muslim-majority Malaysia, after a school in Puchong was forced to remove its Chinese New Year decorations over claims that this amounted to proselytising to Muslim students.https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2020/01/15/now-jakim-washes-hands-of-ministrys-ponggal-circular/18281  This post has been edited by 8bitguy: Jan 15 2020, 03:58 PM |
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estcin
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Jan 15 2020, 04:01 PM
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azarimy
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Jan 15 2020, 04:17 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM) damn didnt know we have so many apa beza semua tu? Each state has its own Jabatan Agama. This is because under Syariah law, the affairs of Muslims are under the purview of the ruler (back then, it was the Sultans). And because we formed a federation, we didn't dissolve our stately powers. Hence each states retain its own sovereignty on how to deal with anything regarding Islamic laws under their own Jabatan Agama Negeri/Wilayah. Here's where it gets tricky. Imagine one Sultan decided "There is no rape in marriage" and another Sultan decided otherwise. A husband could potentially abuse his wife continuously so long as he did so in that particular state. So there will be no standard. This is why JAKIM was established. To become a central reference or advisory board to all the states so that they can standardize everything. If there's a new issue/problem, JAKIM will study and come up with a solution. But it is still up to the individual state to impose or implement. |
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SUSMicozole
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Jan 15 2020, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 15 2020, 04:17 PM) Each state has its own Jabatan Agama. This is because under Syariah law, the affairs of Muslims are under the purview of the ruler (back then, it was the Sultans). And because we formed a federation, we didn't dissolve our stately powers. Hence each states retain its own sovereignty on how to deal with anything regarding Islamic laws under their own Jabatan Agama Negeri/Wilayah. Here's where it gets tricky. Imagine one Sultan decided "There is no rape in marriage" and another Sultan decided otherwise. A husband could potentially abuse his wife continuously so long as he did so in that particular state. So there will be no standard. This is why JAKIM was established. To become a central reference or advisory board to all the states so that they can standardize everything. If there's a new issue/problem, JAKIM will study and come up with a solution. But it is still up to the individual state to impose or implement. then why not have jakim to oversea all states together? and the sultan can decide together on a round table or something instead of each state have their own regulation |
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patt_sue
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Jan 15 2020, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 15 2020, 04:41 PM) then why not have jakim to oversea all states together? and the sultan can decide together on a round table or something instead of each state have their own regulation Need to change the Federal Constitution |
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JoGaki
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Jan 15 2020, 06:52 PM
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When it come to fuck .. agama dont care?? Halal can cucuk non-Halal.. (Red Sofa case)
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Henry T
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Jan 15 2020, 06:55 PM
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When the going gets tough blame someone and cuci tangan at the same time. It works.
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SUS8bitguy
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Jan 15 2020, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 15 2020, 03:44 PM) dont have power to enforce alot of things? but take video of nekid couple can right? Nekkid lain kira. Must rush in watch first hand, take video and gosok bebird. |
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SUSSuperGampang
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Jan 15 2020, 06:59 PM
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Like always. People ask, jakim jawab for muslim, but bodo yg butthurt. Apa jadah
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SUSskyblu3
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Jan 15 2020, 07:01 PM
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Lately the sensitivity is getting worse.
I hope I'm wrong here.
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