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I'm asking.
Jakim washes hands of ministry’s Ponggal letter, The game of Taichi begin News
Jakim washes hands of ministry’s Ponggal letter, The game of Taichi begin News
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Jan 16 2020, 02:31 PM
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Jan 16 2020, 02:32 PM
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JAKIM = GOD
Then PAS how? |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:34 PM
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Jan 16 2020, 02:35 PM
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Jan 16 2020, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(Pipopipo @ Jan 16 2020, 02:25 PM) Here we go with ur imaginary enemies here n there again. Funny how u keep pointing out ppl commenting bout ur religion, trying to weaken ur religion n people, but at the same time turning a blind eyes towards what happen the other way. N btw, if ur faith is strong, nobody can ever do or shake ur belief. But here u r, trying to portray others as enemies, when u urself aint doing that much better toward others in the 1st place. Keep playing victim dude. Keep it going. Based on the comments here, it is clear that plenty of people do not like Islam. Now I do not hate anyone, I am not a racist like a good number here who would judge people based on their religion nor race. But plenty of people here apply stereotypes to certain people just because they just happens to be the race and holds onto the religion of such stereo typeYou have such qualities, which makes you unfit to unite Malaysians. It is ok to believe in stereotypes because they exist for a reason, but it is not OK to blanket apply the stereotype to everyone of that race. For example, the stereotype is that Chinese are cheats; it would be wrong for me to assume a Mr Chin that just started working in the neighboring office to be a cheater. Likewise, Malays are easygoing with their life, it is racist for you to assume that Jamal that was promoted over you in the company is for nothing. Your thoughts are very elementary; you cannot differentiate stereotypes vs racism, which is why we are having this debate edit: Also two wrongs do not make a right mate. If you believe that the policies in Malaysia are racist, in turn you yourself are using those excuses to act the way you are as a retaliation. So you admit to being a racist. The typical argument is always: "It is ok for me to be racist because the country is racist" The national policies are beyond my control, I am not a politician yet I practice my basic powers that is voting in the election; you cannot demand that I take action beyond what I already have for the rights of my people, especially when enemies of Islam keep attacking Jakim. But you on the other hand is caught spewing racially-inclined thoughts. You believe that because the national policy of the country can be racially-biased (debatable, and for another time), you use that as an excuse to be a full-blown racist on a personal level. See what I mean when I said that you are not fit to unite the country, because deep down... your heart is black like a coal This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Jan 16 2020, 02:48 PM |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 16 2020, 02:37 PM) Based on the comments here, it is clear that plenty of people do not like Islam. Now I do not hate anyone, I am not a racist like a good number here who would judge people based on their religion nor race. But plenty of people here apply stereotypes to certain people just because they just happens to be the race and holds onto the religion of such stereo type Talk about stereotyping. Funny how u earlier on other thread kept saying nons kept chiding muslim n malays in this forum, conveniently leaving out the same thing happens at other socmed platforms, only this time the other way round. If wanna talk all mighty n high, at least try pretend like one as well. You have such qualities, which makes you unfit to unit Malaysians. It is ok to believe in stereotype, but it becomes a problem when you blanket apply the stereotype to everyone of that race. U talk about qualities. Doesn't seem u urself got a lot of it as well. N which part of me blanket apply to everyone of that race u mention?? The only person i cover is u, n u only. So who's the one trying to streotype here?? |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 16 2020, 02:37 PM) Based on the comments here, it is clear that plenty of people do not like Islam. Now I do not hate anyone, I am not a racist like a good number here who would judge people based on their religion nor race. But plenty of people here apply stereotypes to certain people just because they just happens to be the race and holds onto the religion of such stereo type N since u edit what u post n make it a long putar halim, now show me which part did i attack jakim?? Please kindly show it. You have such qualities, which makes you unfit to unite Malaysians. It is ok to believe in stereotypes because they exist for a reason, but it is not OK to blanket apply the stereotype to everyone of that race. For example, the stereotype is that Chinese are cheats; it would be wrong for me to assume a Mr Chin that just started working in the neighboring office to be a cheater. Likewise, Malays are easygoing with their life, it is racist for you to assume that Jamal that was promoted over you in the company is for nothing. Your thoughts are very elementary; you cannot differentiate stereotypes vs racism, which is why we are having this debate edit: Also two wrongs do not make a right mate. If you believe that the policies in Malaysia are racist, you claim that I am turning a blind eye (I am not), in turn you yourself are using these excuses to be racist. So you admit to being a racist. Congratulations. The national policies are beyond me, I am not a politician and yet I practice my basic powers that is voting in the election; you cannot demand that I take action beyond what I already have for the rights of my people, especially when racists like you keep attacking Jakim. But you on the other hand is caught spewing racially-inclined thoughts. You believe that because the national policy of the country can be racially-biased (debatable, and for another time), you use that as an excuse to be a full-blown racist on a personal level. See what I mean when I said that you are not fit to unite the country, because deep down... your heart is black like a coal |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(Pipopipo @ Jan 16 2020, 02:47 PM) Talk about stereotyping. Funny how u earlier on other thread kept saying nons kept chiding muslim n malays in this forum, conveniently leaving out the same thing happens at other socmed platforms, only this time the other way round. If wanna talk all mighty n high, at least try pretend like one as well. Like I said, you do not know the difference between stereotypes and racism. There is very little to discuss with someone who does not realize his racially-inclined intentions. U talk about qualities. Doesn't seem u urself got a lot of it as well. N which part of me blanket apply to everyone of that race u mention?? The only person i cover is u, n u only. So who's the one trying to streotype here?? Not to mention that you expect me to control the actions of the governments (their policies) as well the actions of those on the social media platform - I can't I am but one person. But hey, there is you. You can control yourself, keep yourself to be too racially-inclined; but you refuse You keep using other people's actions as an excuse to be racist yourself, as a means for retaliation. So does that make you good or bad? Like I said, heart as black as coal. Stop all these nonsense and just be better. Stop applying stereotypes onto others; see the person for who he is. You will see colors, without doubt, but only you can stop applying those stereotypes according to the colors. Or not and remain a person with /k/ mindset |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 16 2020, 02:52 PM) Like I said, you do not know the difference between stereotypes and racism. There is very little to discuss with someone who does not realize his racially-inclined intentions. Now back to my question again, which part of me there attack jakim?? Not to mention that you expect me to control the actions of the governments (their policies) as well the actions of those on the social media platform - I can't I am but one person. But hey, there is you. You can control yourself, keep yourself to be too racially-inclined; but you refuse You keep using other people's actions as an excuse to be racist yourself, as a means for retaliation. So does that make you good or bad? Like I said, heart as black as coal. Stop all these nonsense and just be better. Stop applying stereotypes onto others; see the person for who he is. You will see colors, without doubt, but only you can stop applying those stereotypes according to the colors. Or not and remain a person with /k/ mindset |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Pipopipo @ Jan 16 2020, 02:49 PM) N since u edit what u post n make it a long putar halim, now show me which part did i attack jakim?? Please kindly show it. Not you personally perhaps, but there many like you in this thread and others as well that are attacking Jakim. You dislike when Jakim is fulfilling their duties for the betterment of Islam and Muslims alike. The crux of the matter, Muslims being told not to celebrate other people's festivities have nothing to do with people like you, but you like to interfere and claim what is not - "it is a cultural, not religion". Nope, in Islam, these are considered religious festivity and it is within the rights of the highest authority of Islamic faith to as they are required |
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Jan 16 2020, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 16 2020, 02:55 PM) Not you personally perhaps, but there many like you in this thread and others as well that are attacking Jakim. You dislike when Jakim is fulfilling their duties for the betterment of Islam and Muslims alike. The crux of the matter, Muslims being told not to celebrate other people's festivities have nothing to do with people like you, but you like to interfere and claim what is not - "it is a cultural, not religion". Nope, in Islam, these are considered religious festivity and it is within the rights of the highest authority of Islamic faith to as they are required So r u basically saying now that u just accused me of sumthing i never did?? There's no need for u to make it a long putar halim. |
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Jan 16 2020, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 16 2020, 02:55 PM) Not you personally perhaps, but there many like you in this thread and others as well that are attacking Jakim. You dislike when Jakim is fulfilling their duties for the betterment of Islam and Muslims alike. The crux of the matter, Muslims being told not to celebrate other people's festivities have nothing to do with people like you, but you like to interfere and claim what is not - "it is a cultural, not religion". Nope, in Islam, these are considered religious festivity and it is within the rights of the highest authority of Islamic faith to as they are required there you go. thats your problem right thereyou're now at a point where you cannot even tell apart cultural festival vs. religious festival ever wondered where you went wrong? how come you dont know where the line between cultural and religion is? how come you are so blinded or ignorance of the difference? what? u dare persoal?! u enemy of islam!! |
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Jan 16 2020, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jan 16 2020, 03:15 PM) there you go. thats your problem right there Jangan bai. Nanti he's gonna make it into a long putar halim again.you're now at a point where you cannot even tell apart cultural festival vs. religious festival ever wondered where you went wrong? how come you dont know where the line between cultural and religion is? how come you are so blinded or ignorance of the difference? what? u dare persoal?! u enemy of islam!! |
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Jan 16 2020, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jan 16 2020, 03:15 PM) there you go. thats your problem right there Let me throw another curve ball. you're now at a point where you cannot even tell apart cultural festival vs. religious festival ever wondered where you went wrong? how come you dont know where the line between cultural and religion is? how come you are so blinded or ignorance of the difference? what? u dare persoal?! u enemy of islam!! Ponggal is celebrated by Hindus and Christians who are from Indian decent. The fact that Christians(indian) who are not hindus, celebrate this cultural festival. So it goes to say that it has nothing to do with R E L I G I O N. Get that into your heads. Cheers! |
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