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Jakim washes hands of ministry’s Ponggal letter, The game of Taichi begin News
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azarimy
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Jan 15 2020, 01:26 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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Actually, it's true, JAKIM has no power to enforce a lot of things. They are the central body where people "refer to for coordinating and managing anything about Islam in Malaysia".
So when people ask, "can a Muslim celebrate Ponggal?" for example, they will do some reading and meeting and come up with a unified statement: "No you can't".
But can they enforce it? NO. Can they sue somebody who celebrated it? NO. Can they instruct other bodies or authorities to adopt their stand? NO.
However, if any authoritative body decide to adopt it, then it can be enforced. So I think in the issue of Ponggal celebration, it's on KPM.
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azarimy
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Jan 15 2020, 03:46 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 15 2020, 03:44 PM) dont have power to enforce alot of things? but take video of nekid couple can right? Itu JAWI, JAIS, JAIJ etc (all the states got one). Not JAKIM.
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azarimy
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Jan 15 2020, 04:17 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 15 2020, 03:54 PM) damn didnt know we have so many apa beza semua tu? Each state has its own Jabatan Agama. This is because under Syariah law, the affairs of Muslims are under the purview of the ruler (back then, it was the Sultans). And because we formed a federation, we didn't dissolve our stately powers. Hence each states retain its own sovereignty on how to deal with anything regarding Islamic laws under their own Jabatan Agama Negeri/Wilayah. Here's where it gets tricky. Imagine one Sultan decided "There is no rape in marriage" and another Sultan decided otherwise. A husband could potentially abuse his wife continuously so long as he did so in that particular state. So there will be no standard. This is why JAKIM was established. To become a central reference or advisory board to all the states so that they can standardize everything. If there's a new issue/problem, JAKIM will study and come up with a solution. But it is still up to the individual state to impose or implement.
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azarimy
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Jan 15 2020, 09:10 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Micozole @ Jan 15 2020, 04:41 PM) then why not have jakim to oversea all states together? and the sultan can decide together on a round table or something instead of each state have their own regulation JAKIM is overseeing all the states right now. They just don't have the power or authority to enforce anything. Doing so would undermine the powers of the states.
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