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post Jan 15 2020, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:01 AM)
Malaysia ban religion je.
Cultural practice still ok.
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and become like CCP?
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Jan 15 2020, 08:31 AM)
Both oso same la
Don't look at jakim oni

If the celebration is some kind of religious celebration, Muslims can't be involved too much into it for some reason. Can you at least respect that before sembang about perpaduan and shit?
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ayam dont really get it with all this easy influence mindset. What is wrong with celebrating together.... just stay aside when they're doing the religious stuffs but join in for the feast... free food pun tak mau ka??

Back in the past all race and religion prepares feast and invites each other. There are non Christians preparing Christmas dinners with muslim guests and do the gift exchange ..... or non muslim going to Hari Raya open house to makan and give wishes...

back then even SJKC will throw Hari Raya party for their muslim students and staff despite the small head count (i believe they still do) .. but SK are now banning every other celebration step by step? We are suppose to progress but instead we went backwards and encouraging everyone not to celebrate with each other... respect and perpaduan my ass.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Jan 15 2020, 08:29 AM)
blame dong zong
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Yes. They start stupid hoohah on 3 pages jawi which even just brief introduction of jawi we saw everyday. They are shame of Chinese community and they doesn't even take care of sjkc so better abolished for good.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 15 2020, 09:29 AM)
ayam dont really get it with all this easy influence mindset. What is wrong with celebrating together.... just stay aside when they're doing the religious stuffs but join in for the feast... free food pun tak mau ka??

Back in the past all race and religion prepares feast and invites each other. There are non Christians preparing Christmas dinners with muslim guests and do the gift exchange ..... or non muslim going to Hari Raya open house to makan and give wishes...

back then even SJKC will throw Hari Raya party for their muslim students and staff despite the small head count (i believe they still do) .. but SK are now banning every other celebration step by step? We are suppose to progress but instead we went backwards and encouraging everyone not to celebrate with each other... respect and perpaduan my ass.
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Actually this is totally fine. Just eat eat and talk is fine.
Everything you said is actually fine. In that case it's stupid to ban celebrations just because of that.
Only some people who said muslims should join everything is not fine. We do have line that we can't cross.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(seventwo @ Jan 15 2020, 08:22 AM)
Thanks to PH, this issue pun kenot handle properly
What purpose to have menteri perpaduan?
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if menteri perpaduan really do the job, what will happen?
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:40 AM

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malay students cannot celebrate ponggal

habislah, Malaysia is doomed!

kek

This post has been edited by Hinoarashi9: Jan 15 2020, 09:41 AM
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:46 AM

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post Jan 15 2020, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:32 AM)
Actually this is totally fine. Just eat eat and talk is fine.
Everything you said is actually fine. In that case it's stupid to ban celebrations just because of that.
Only some people who said muslims should join everything is not fine. We do have line that we can't cross.
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actually it's the same to the nons also as there are lines where we do not cross.... even it is not right for an atheist to join in prayers because it feels like interrupting.

we should change our mindset that our non-involvement in other's prayers is about respecting other's practices... but not really about it going against our own faiths and beliefs... but all religion now just wanna plotek plotek.... Frankly, they wouldn't want to involve outsiders in their prayers as well. (maybe this doesnt apply to Christians laugh.gif)

But other than that.. no harm getting involved la.... break coconut during thaipussam or share gifts during Christmas for the fun of it eventhough these action has religion significance... but it's not really praying. Afterall the actual prayers are usually always done in closed doors anyways so why worry.

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post Jan 15 2020, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 15 2020, 09:49 AM)
actually it's the same to the nons also as there are lines where we do not cross.... even it is not right for an atheist to join in prayers because it feels like interrupting.

we should change our mindset that our non-involvement in other's prayers is about respecting other's practices... but not really about it going against our own faiths and beliefs... but all religion now just wanna plotek plotek. 

But other than that.. no harm getting involved la.... break coconut during thaipussam or share gifts during Christmas for the fun of it eventhough these action has religion significance... but it's not really praying. Afterall the actual prayers are usually always done in closed doors anyways so why worry.
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Yes we shared the same sentiments, and honestly kind of sad when this kinda news appear and people blame and disrespect the whole race and religion entirely.
We also disagree with each other regarding this, so it's kind of unfair to group us together.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:53 AM

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Hari Raya Puasa / Hari Raya Haji also no more right? These are 2 religion festival.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:54 AM

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now start from school.. soon slowly creeping into shopping malls.. end up the whole nation also cant celebrate.. just like brunei.. u see lar
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:54 AM

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Yalor, we just greet because we know they are celebrating and want to wish them well. Doesn't mean already entered the religion.
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:55 AM

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What to do 3 pages tak jadi..

All my classmates cinapek malaypek Indian pek study jawi during primary school.. Semua OK.. Is not like our kkc will kena sunat.. Why this Dz so power hungry blocking msian to be truly msian?
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:55 AM

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since when dong zong represent chinese? you guys do know i can tell dong zong to fuck off anytime i want right? just admit this country is going taliban
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:52 AM)
Yes we shared the same sentiments, and honestly kind of sad when this kinda news appear and people blame and disrespect the whole race and religion entirely.
We also disagree with each other regarding this, so it's kind of unfair to group us together.
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I know right... what has Malaysia become now.... giving a big voice to extremist on all sides... and what's worse is these unqualified bunch spreading misinformation about cultures..

one most bodoh one is the recent CNY tanglung thing.... They should've known that China is Atheist.. how can it be religious :x
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:58 AM

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No wonder wolrld kenot be at peace
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post Jan 15 2020, 09:59 AM

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No more festival celebration at school..., Jakim says students easily influenced
So can ban hari raya KORBAN in school?
Vroom vroom, jangan persoal ini bumi milik siapa.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:01 AM

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So many still blaming vernacular school for integration issue.

Meanwhile you can no longer learn about each other culture in national school. Maybe you can only learn about M culture.

The irony.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 15 2020, 09:58 AM)
I know right... what has Malaysia become now.... giving a big voice to extremist on all sides... and what's worse is these unqualified bunch spreading misinformation about cultures..

one most bodoh one is the recent CNY tanglung thing.... They should've known that China is Atheist.. how can it be religious :x
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I laughed too but when I see the shit-stirrer, I no longer care cos he's a well known supremacist
I mean, it's just lunar new year even I gonna celebrate it with my kolik lol
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(catherintherye @ Jan 15 2020, 07:58 AM)
Guys, judging by so much fiasco created by Jakim and those officials infested into Education Ministry, this mean no more future cultural festival celebration at school?

The logic according to Jakim and Top Level education ministry officials, celebrating other people festival will make these students embrace another religion.....like if student celebrate Hari Raya with other muslim students, will make them become muslim, or muslim students celebrate Ponggal with Hindu students will make them become Hindu, or hanging Tang Lung at school will make them become Buddhist and looking at Cross Shape windows panel will make all become Christians?

Are there many racists and chimney mindsets in Jakim and Education Ministry....who are these sad deep state officials? Can the "Acting" Education Minister put a stop to all these nonsense?
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Please google the meaning of celebrate and participate. Are you that stupid rama spokesperson? One thread not enough?



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