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TSblackpink
post Jan 14 2020, 04:49 PM, updated 6y ago

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i just know JAKIM/JAIS approve to keep Chinese name after converting to Islam, for example if your name is LIM JOOI SOON then you can keep it.
not compulsory to change because JAKIM/JAIS mention you masuk islam bukan masuk melayu - SOS harakah

https://www.hmetro.com.my/addin/2018/11/395...pas-peluk-islam

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post Jan 14 2020, 04:55 PM

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i not care any name if waifu amoi hggnngghhhh level is high

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post Jan 14 2020, 04:57 PM

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masuk melayu more beneficial tho
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post Jan 14 2020, 04:59 PM

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Well, since few years ago already can retain the name, as long as the name have no affiliation with other religion.

And yes, masuk Islam not equal masuk Melayu.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:03 PM

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sound logic.
masuk islam not masuk melayu.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 04:49 PM)
i just know JAKIM/JAIS approve to keep Chinese name after converting to Islam, for example if your name is LIM JOOI SOON then you can keep it.
not compulsory to change because JAKIM/JAIS mention you masuk islam bukan masuk melayu - SOS harakah

https://www.hmetro.com.my/addin/2018/11/395...pas-peluk-islam
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if your name Red Tang Long then cannot aldy some one confuse Tang Long are religion or culture
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:07 PM

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In China Tan Ah Chong is a muslim there, if he change citizen to Malaysia will he still be Tan Ah Chong or Abdullah Ah Chong?
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:08 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:09 PM

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If you name is Jesus Chong. You can keep the name.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(catherintherye @ Jan 14 2020, 05:07 PM)
In China Tan Ah Chong is a muslim there, if he change citizen to Malaysia will he still be Tan Ah Chong or Abdullah Ah Chong?
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Did you understand the tered title?
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM

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i seriously want to masuk islam, any brother can guide me here?
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jan 14 2020, 05:09 PM)
If you name is Jesus Chong. You can keep the name.
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What about Lucifer?
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
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Don't bullshit in Kopitiam.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jan 14 2020, 05:14 PM)
What about Lucifer?
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Accepted.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:16 PM

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What if your names is Church's Chicken?
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jan 14 2020, 05:16 PM)
What if your names is Church's Chicken?
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Must change to Ayam Masjid
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:20 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:21 PM

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Already a few years kan? Why republish?
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
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must not allergic to arabic letters first
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:22 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:22 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:23 PM

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Yes this is right way of Islam.
When i was abroad in russia, many russians muslim their names are just like any other russians.


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post Jan 14 2020, 05:23 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 06:13 PM)
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Not in here..

Go visit local mosque near you.

Or get quran translation first and read.

If go doubt and enquiry, jab agama got.



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post Jan 14 2020, 05:25 PM

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mula compromise lel tu.

Abolish je kachat JAKIM /JAIS.


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post Jan 14 2020, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Jan 14 2020, 05:22 PM)
..here cannot go..there cannot go..this cannot eat..that cannot eat..this cannot touch..that cannot touch
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I just know the couple holds hand also cannot. No wonder all so early marriage.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 14 2020, 06:24 PM)
Not in here..

Go visit local mosque near you.

Or get quran translation first and read.

If go doubt and enquiry, jab agama got.
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lel, arent u a non muslim bos? hmm.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:27 PM

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dusty,,

change to DUST bin sampah

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jan 14 2020, 05:20 PM)
Janji bole kawin 4
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:37 PM

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post Jan 14 2020, 05:38 PM

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Abdullah Lim Hook Soon or Lim Hook Soon bin Abdullah
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 14 2020, 06:27 PM)
lel, arent u a non muslim bos?  hmm.gif  doh.gif
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😆

I advise him according to his question.

Wrong a non muslim to answer that?

Btw, Im muslim. The real muslim. 😌
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:44 PM

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I belive this idea that all muslims need to have arab names is a Malaysia thing, not a muslim thing. Sure there is a tradition that the first born son is named Muhammed. But it's absolutely not a requirement for conversion. And has not been in Malaysia either for several years. Totally ok to keep old name.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 14 2020, 05:24 PM)
Not in here..

Go visit local mosque near you.

Or get quran translation first and read.

If go doubt and enquiry, jab agama got.
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Fyi do not read Quran translation without a teacher.
ulama tafsir is best to learn from.
that will be according to Sunnah.
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:01 PM

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as it should have been
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:02 PM

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Why jakim so busybody?
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 14 2020, 06:53 PM)
Fyi do not read Quran translation without a teacher.
ulama tafsir is best to learn from.
that will be according to Sunnah.
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Can read and understand.

If you have doubt or question, then find someone that can help you
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jan 14 2020, 05:09 PM)
If you name is Jesus Chong. You can keep the name.
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We cant keep the name ‘hotdog’, certainly not this one too
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 14 2020, 06:10 PM)
Can read and understand.

If you have doubt or question, then find someone that can help you
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some of those who read translation only have been known to understand wrongly and not according to tafsir and sunnah. so just be careful.
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:15 PM

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I thought this has been known but ages now. Only kampung people keep thinking need to change name
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:19 PM

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If you want to memeluk Islam, better try to be a Malay also. Reason being is that as a Muslim, you will be subject to additional Sharia laws on your life. (i.e. cannot drink, cannot eat pork, must fast on Ramadan, no physical contact with opposite sex, etc)

At least, if you are a Malay also. You can enjoy the bumi privileges to offset the additonal laws you must follow. 7% housing discount, bumi only loan and assistance, ASB, etc. If ownself kenot, try to get your kids to be Malay so easier to get scholarship and masuk public uni
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 14 2020, 07:12 PM)
some of those who read translation only have been known to understand wrongly and not according to tafsir and sunnah. so just be careful.
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No doubt on that.

But to say do not read without teacher is wrong.

One can read and understand without teacher, only when they have doubts, wanting to know why, how, where, when, thats where teacher comes in.

Theres no compulsory to that.

We have dozens of revert/convert stories where they read it without teacher/scholar/imam.


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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 04:49 PM)
i just know JAKIM/JAIS approve to keep Chinese name after converting to Islam, for example if your name is LIM JOOI SOON then you can keep it.
not compulsory to change because JAKIM/JAIS mention you masuk islam bukan masuk melayu - SOS harakah

https://www.hmetro.com.my/addin/2018/11/395...pas-peluk-islam
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macam dah lama aku tahu je ni hmm.gif


oh 2018 news
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
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But why? Don't you like bak kwa?
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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 04:49 PM)
i just know JAKIM/JAIS approve to keep Chinese name after converting to Islam, for example if your name is LIM JOOI SOON then you can keep it.
not compulsory to change because JAKIM/JAIS mention you masuk islam bukan masuk melayu - SOS harakah

https://www.hmetro.com.my/addin/2018/11/395...pas-peluk-islam
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jan 14 2020, 04:57 PM)
masuk melayu more beneficial tho
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Jan 14 2020, 05:03 PM)
sound logic.
masuk islam not masuk melayu.
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Jan 14 2020, 04:59 PM)

And yes, masuk Islam not equal masuk Melayu.
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I tot most guys masuk islam because didi masuk melayu
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
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If you're serious, go to any masjid and speak to the people there. They'll help you.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jan 14 2020, 05:15 PM)
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I think he's serious
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post Jan 14 2020, 06:39 PM

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why would name changing need permission from jakim to begin with? they dont control your life. as long as the meaning is good, you can use any name you like
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Jan 14 2020, 05:03 PM)
sound logic.
masuk islam not masuk melayu.
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but but but Malaysian constitution not says otherwise?
anybody can clarify?
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post Jan 14 2020, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jan 14 2020, 06:39 PM)
why would name changing need permission from jakim to begin with? they dont control your life. as long as the meaning is good, you can use any name you like
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no need.. it's just kampung perception that muallaf need to change to arab / malay name

unless your current name's meaning is not good, then ok to change
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 14 2020, 05:19 PM)
Must change to Ayam Masjid
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Still Haram according to certain people.
Still cannot eat Texas Chicken.
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post Jan 14 2020, 07:25 PM

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Can become bumi also?
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post Jan 14 2020, 07:29 PM

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i thought it has been like that for quite a long time already....no?

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post Jan 14 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jan 14 2020, 05:14 PM)
What about Lucifer?
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Renamed to Lucifah
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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 14 2020, 05:22 PM)
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Pain in the ass in overseas?

Not much countries have bidets at toilet.
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More pussy ...?
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jan 14 2020, 07:14 PM)
no need.. it's just kampung perception that muallaf need to change to arab / malay name

unless your current name's meaning is not good, then ok to change
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Malaysia logic: change religion = change race.
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Pain in the ass in overseas?

Not much countries have bidets at toilet.
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To shit is not every hour need to.

Dunno about you
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post Jan 14 2020, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 14 2020, 07:19 PM)
Still Haram according to certain people.
Still cannot eat Texas Chicken.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 14 2020, 05:27 PM)
lel, arent u a non muslim bos?  hmm.gif  doh.gif
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I'm pretty sure he's a muslim lol.
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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
i seriously want to masuk islam, any brother can guide me here?
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Its better u open serious \k topic
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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
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Go to nearest Jabatan Agama Islam negeri or check Hidayah Center Foundation website. Hidayah Center as an NGO would guide you for the process.
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Despite the attempt the portray the simplicity, the fact that it has a topic in 2020 trying to clarify there is no need to change your name already shows how complicated it is.

The irony.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:35 PM)
Despite the attempt the portray the simplicity, the fact that it has a topic in 2020 trying to clarify there is no need to change your name already shows how complicated it is.

The irony.
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The people here make it hard
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:38 PM

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I got see one girl name on notice board her name is Sharon Tan bt Mohd Arif. Why like that also can?
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QUOTE(imin @ Jan 14 2020, 08:37 PM)
The people here make it hard
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Look at the the Boycott Tesco over beer. 2020 still have intolerant terrorists in Malaysia


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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:39 PM)
Look at the the Boycott Tesco over beer. 2020 still have intolerant terrorists in Malaysia
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yeah also this. smh. people need to chill.

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old setori

if ts want to convert ask haziq
he can guide
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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 14 2020, 08:35 PM)
Despite the attempt the portray the simplicity, the fact that it has a topic in 2020 trying to clarify there is no need to change your name already shows how complicated it is.

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It definitely doesnt show its complicated but more so that people are ignorance or uniformed about certain things.
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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ Jan 14 2020, 08:50 PM)
yeah also this. smh. people need to chill.

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Agree, all need to chill. At least the uncle didn’t share it on social media and the Chinese girl somewhat shared how wrong it was.
Meanwhile Babiputra still running around after MCMC and useless PDRM advise school to give in to terrorists to take down Tanglung

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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ Jan 14 2020, 08:55 PM)
It definitely doesnt show its complicated but more so that people are ignorance or uniformed about certain things.
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It’s your opinion to say people are ignorant or uninformed.
How old is the religion again, despite being amongst the newest religion? Need how many more millennia to clarify name issue?

It’s like how long do u need to learn 1+1=2. That’s called simple.
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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 14 2020, 09:03 PM)
It’s like how long do u need to learn 1+1=2. That’s called simple.
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Its definitely simple. Dont have to change name, I dont know how more simpler it could be.
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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ Jan 14 2020, 09:12 PM)
Its definitely simple. Dont have to change name, I dont know how more simpler it could be.
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Otherwise why the need to clarify multiple times? And prior to 2000, who gave the advice to change name?
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QUOTE(blackpink @ Jan 14 2020, 05:13 PM)
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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 14 2020, 09:15 PM)
Otherwise why the need to clarify multiple times?
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I dont see how is that relevant. It called spreading the information. some people probably doesnt receive the info before. Plus the source is old one from 2018. TS just know about it now which fit the case I mention, that some people just doesnt know about it before and know they do. Nothing to do with how complicated it is.

If I clarify many times please use a signal when driving does that mean using signal is hard thing to do?.


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post Jan 14 2020, 09:33 PM

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Fuh JAKIM is now higher rank than the National Registration Department. Hebat betul.

Besides that, if one is to embrace Islam, one should be proud of it and proceed with the change of name to include Abdullah or something and these converts should be proud of their new found faith I don't see the point of maintaining the old name unless ... it was meant to conceal it e.g. from a spouse etc. If there are valid reasons for such thing maintaining the old name, I would like to hear it. As it is, all I can see is future problems for society in general if the National Registration Department were to follow this instruction.

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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ Jan 14 2020, 09:25 PM)
I dont see how is that relevant. It called spreading the information. some people probably doesnt receive the info before. Plus the source is old one from 2018. TS just know about it now which fit the case I mention, that some people just doesnt know about it before and know they do. Nothing to do with how complicated it is.

If I clarify many times please use a signal when driving does that mean using signal is hard thing to do?.
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How would you like it if your wife or parents teaches you daily on 1+1=2? And nothing more? They don’t need to coz it’s that simple. Elementary schoolchildren, OKU and babies are forgiven.

How many adults get confused by 1+1=2? That’s called simple
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Yes. Convert to Islam doesn’t equal convert to Malay. But one serious question is, does convert to Islam make you a bumiputera? I have someone I know who has converted but keep his Chinese name. Last month, he got a notice from ASB that instruct him to withdraw all his money and to close his account, just because he is having a Chinese name.
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If they knew, but if they dont then why not. case in point TS just knew.

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Yes. Convert to Islam doesn’t equal convert to Malay. But one serious question is, does convert to Islam make you a bumiputera? I have someone I know who has converted but keep his Chinese name. Last month, he got a notice from ASB that instruct him to withdraw all his money and to close his account, just because he is having a Chinese name.
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That's weird. Maybe that person should bring the document certifying his religious status & the ASB Product Highlights Sheet, and ask for clarification.

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i not care any name if waifu amoi hggnngghhhh level is high
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That's weird. Maybe that person should bring the document certifying his religious status & the ASB Product Highlights Sheet, and ask for clarification.

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Many ignorants making up stories.

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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 14 2020, 11:40 PM)
Many ignorants making up stories.
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Wouldn't be too quick to make that conclusion as I've had a fair share dealing with lil napoleons myself. Ignorant of the laws & their own procedures.

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QUOTE(Princess_Alicia @ Jan 14 2020, 10:58 PM)
Yes. Convert to Islam doesn’t equal convert to Malay. But one serious question is, does convert to Islam make you a bumiputera? I have someone I know who has converted but keep his Chinese name. Last month, he got a notice from ASB that instruct him to withdraw all his money and to close his account, just because he is having a Chinese name.
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No. Bumiputra is all about heritage (or in some cases connection) Malays, Orang asli, S&S natives, and some peranakan chinese are bumiputera. The rest of us are not.
Also you can become Bumiputera if you marry some person with great connections...
http://www.sarawakreport.org/2018/02/outra...-native-status/

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Most indian masuk islam
So they can opened mamak rstoren
In reality the owner still performing his hindu religion like usual
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If they knew, but if they dont then why not. case in point TS just knew.
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The fact is, this was only clarified in 2010s. How many muslims in malaysia asked converts to change name to arabic or malays before that? For a religion that exists for supposedly that long, that’s a failure.

Likewise,almost no real schools will teach 1+1=3. That’swhat simplicity means

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Must change to Ayam Masjid
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So which one is simpler, changing name or keep the name?.

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So which one is simpler, changing name or keep the name?.
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I dunno, since it’s so confusing. Not so simple after all.
Otherwise why so many sects claiming to be the true one
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I dunno
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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 14 2020, 11:49 PM)
The fact is, this was only clarified in 2010s. How many muslims in malaysia asked converts to change name to arabic or malays before that? For a religion that exists for supposedly that long, that’s a failure.

Likewise,almost no real schools will teach 1+1=3. That’swhat simplicity means
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Gone the days when Malays have Malay names. Now all use Arabic names, sometimes even use Hebrew lol
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Gone the days when Malays have Malay names. Now all use Arabic names, sometimes even use Hebrew lol
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Eh, later people say u all also use English-sounding names lol.
Jgn persoal.

Worse is, they can’t seem to differentiate their own culture from religion. They’ll argue that’s it’s their choice and in constitution but force others to accept hahaha
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QUOTE(zerozero00 @ Jan 15 2020, 01:25 AM)
Eh, later people say u all also use English-sounding names lol.
Jgn persoal.

Worse is, they can’t seem to differentiate their own culture from religion. They’ll argue that’s it’s their choice and in constitution but force others to accept hahaha
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Some of their culture are quite against muslim teaching though, since religion is the one promises go to heaven so they have forgo culture. Although they still take things that contain alcohol like tapai, soy sauce, breads but claim as halal...
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jan 14 2020, 11:36 PM)
That's weird. Maybe that person should bring the document certifying his religious status & the ASB Product Highlights Sheet, and ask for clarification.

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Thanks. Maybe I should advise him to do that.
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 14 2020, 11:40 PM)
Many ignorants making up stories.
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People here are mature enough to judge which are true and which are made up. Not like you with extremist thinking. Katak bawah tempurung. Come out from your Malay only circle and mix up man.
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QUOTE(PATAR @ Jan 14 2020, 11:42 PM)
No. Bumiputra is all about heritage (or in some cases connection) Malays, Orang asli, S&S natives, and some peranakan chinese are bumiputera. The rest of us are not.
Also you can become Bumiputera if you marry some person with great connections...
http://www.sarawakreport.org/2018/02/outra...-native-status/
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Some people are ignorant. They think bumiputra = malay islam cause that same brush been painted by racists like dongzong people.
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double posted.

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