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post Jan 4 2020, 09:07 AM, updated 6y ago

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*Maszlee – behind the black shoes* PARTI SOSIALIS MALAYSIA – 3RD JAN,2020.

I am inspired to write this article after reading all the comments in Mkini; bashing Maszlee Malik and I am sure, this piece will end up in the same tone.

Maszlee Malik’s sudden resignation took many people and me myself by surprise. It seems that he was forced into the resignation by the Prime Minister. One wonders what the plan is since until Maszlee was appointed; the only other person who was interested in the job was Mahathir himself. Maszlee’s resignation speech – reading from between the lines would confirm that Mahathir wanted him out.

Maszlee has definitely been made a scapegoat here. He has been always made to look like a dumb Minister who doesn’t know his job. Sensational media reporting and often unfair titles put him always in the defensive mode.

He was polled as the second lowest – 27 out 28 in Malaysiakini’s poll on Ministers’ performance. This is understandable because most Mkini readers are middle class, mostly non-Malay and have a definite bias against him. They fear that Maszlee with his Islamic credentials was going to turn our education system into an Islamic one. Most DAP leaders scored high points. Now imagine if Harakah conducted a similar poll and you will know how the outcome would be.

The Black shoe labelling never left him and it was always used to ridicule and undermine him. I am sure if we took a vote among students, they would prefer black shoes to white. Anyway that is not the point here.

Mahathir has decided to replace him and therefore it would be easy now to put all the blame on the Jawi issue, matriculation and other controversial stuff on him. Two of Mahathir’s staunch supporters Tun Daim and Rafidah Aziz have constantly taken swipes at him and that is further indication that he has fallen out of favour with the Mighty M.

Let me share a personal experience and tell you why some of us have a soft spot for him. JPKK which is a network of contract workers in Government departments has been campaigning over the years to improve the plight of contract workers mainly cleaners and security guards in schools. We have previously tried in vain to meet with the previous education Minister. The only people who met us were some officers and department heads, who were not in a position to make decisions.
But the PH Education Minister Maszlee quite readily gave us an appointment to meet and have a dialogue with us. I was very sceptical before the meeting based on the bad image formed in my mind about him. Before the meeting, his office asked for our memorandum and proposal, which was itself quite out of the ordinary.

At the meeting, we were pleasantly surprised to note that he had actually read our memorandum beforehand. He was not pretending as if he knew everything, which most Ministers try to do. He addressed each of our proposals and directed his officials to act on them. He then told us that he will bring up our proposals in the Cabinet meeting the next day. I thought he was pulling a fast one because that is what most Ministers tell you. True to his promise, he issued a media statement after the cabinet meeting, saying that he raised the issue of parasitic and underperforming crony contractors will be blacklisted and replaced. He also said that the whole system needed to be relooked at and agreed to look into our proposal to employ workers directly and not through a middleperson who in many instances ended up taking a portion of the salary of the workers. This was the first Minister who actually looked at the fundamental issue rather than give the usual excuses.

Since then, we had the pleasure of working with some of his officers, specifically Shaza, who used to update us on a weekly basis, working past office hours, listening to the many complaints we raised about the problematic contract system in school. This attitude changed our view that most of those working in Government ‘makan gaji buta’ and just work 9 to 5. For that, let me salute them.

Now let me touch on other issues not raised in the current petition going around supporting him. For example, under Maszlee, student activists were more protected; he prevented University authorities from taking action on students each time they expressed themselves through protests and other actions. During previous Administration, the Minister always stood with the establishment and not the students. That is something which helped students to express themselves knowing very well that they had protection from disciplinary action.

I was also told by many teachers that Maszlee made many reforms in the school system but many of his reforms did not go well on the ground because the bureaucracy was not assisting. It is not surprising that the Teachers Union NUTP speaks so highly of him. Many teachers too have since expressed how Maszlee did actually addresses some of the main issues raised by teachers.

He made many u-turns after bringing matters to the cabinet. This can be seen with the matriculation issue and Jawi. It is maybe that he is inexperienced as he has always stated himself or maybe he should have talked less, like the many PH Ministers who don’t say much, preferring to be silent in order to survive. Most of these issues were tough issues like JAWI, Matriculation and Unified Examination Certificate (UEC) are difficult issues. These are issues which has been there for 6 decades which PH as a team have been unable to address since they end up playing the same racial game like the BN. Therefore it is unfair that Maszlee is blamed when on all occasion, the cabinet took the decision with of course ayahanda Mahathir sitting at the helm.

On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children. These are huge achievements compared to the black shoe which hardly got mentioned. It was reported that he opened 10,200 classes to cater for 24,998 OKU special children. On all these initiatives, I am with him because he has contributed towards creating a more caring society and opening up public spaces for the commons.

Since coming to power, he has resigned twice. Once, after being appointed as the President of the International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) when students and many spoke about conflict of interest and now. On the first occasion, even Mahathir supported his appointment but he took the right decision to resign but this time it is a no choice situation Mahathir called for his resignation and it could be part of a likely cabinet reshuffle. Maszlee should feel happy that he was not removed due to corruption or other scandals. He went in without a Datukship and came out without one. To Maszlee all the best.

*S.Arutchelvan* _PSM Deputy Chairperson_
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The real Mazlee got some bromance with Azmin Semburit.

Thats the real reason he resign.
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what u guys worry about he is still young still can come back to become minister again
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jan 4 2020, 09:14 AM)
what u guys worry about he is still young still can come back to become minister again
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What I worry is the constant changeup in education which will affect the policies in schools and universities. Yet, people easily call for change each time a decision don't go their way.
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jan 4 2020, 09:07 AM)
*Maszlee – behind the black shoes* PARTI SOSIALIS MALAYSIA – 3RD JAN,2020.

I am inspired to write this article after reading all the comments in Mkini; bashing Maszlee Malik and I am sure, this piece will end up in the same tone.

Maszlee Malik’s sudden resignation took many people and me myself by surprise. It seems that he was forced into the resignation by the Prime Minister. One wonders what the plan is since until Maszlee was appointed; the only other person who was interested in the job was Mahathir himself. Maszlee’s resignation speech – reading from between the lines would confirm that Mahathir wanted him out. 

Maszlee has definitely been made a scapegoat here. He has been always made to look like a dumb Minister who doesn’t know his job. Sensational media reporting and often unfair titles put him always in the defensive mode.

He was polled as the second lowest – 27 out 28 in Malaysiakini’s poll on Ministers’ performance. This is understandable because most Mkini readers are middle class, mostly non-Malay and have a definite bias against him. They fear that Maszlee with his Islamic credentials was going to turn our education system into an Islamic one. Most DAP leaders scored high points. Now imagine if Harakah conducted a similar poll and you will know how the outcome would be.

The Black shoe labelling never left him and it was always used to ridicule and undermine him. I am sure if we took a vote among students, they would prefer black shoes to white. Anyway that is not the point here.

Mahathir has decided to replace him and therefore it would be easy now to put all the blame on the Jawi issue, matriculation and other controversial stuff on him.  Two of Mahathir’s staunch supporters Tun Daim and Rafidah Aziz have constantly taken swipes at him and that is further indication that he has fallen out of favour with the Mighty M.

Let me share a personal experience and tell you why some of us have a soft spot for him. JPKK which is a network of contract workers in Government departments has been campaigning over the years to improve the plight of contract workers mainly cleaners and security guards in schools. We have previously tried in vain to meet with the previous education Minister. The only people who met us were some officers and department heads, who were not in a position to make decisions.
But the PH Education Minister Maszlee quite readily gave us an appointment to meet and have a dialogue with us. I was very sceptical before the meeting based on the bad image formed in my mind about him. Before the meeting, his office asked for our memorandum and proposal, which was itself quite out of the ordinary.

At the meeting, we were pleasantly surprised to note that he had actually read our memorandum beforehand. He was not pretending as if he knew everything, which most Ministers try to do. He addressed each of our proposals and directed his officials to act on them. He then told us that he will bring up our proposals in the Cabinet meeting the next day. I thought he was pulling a fast one because that is what most Ministers tell you. True to his promise, he issued a media statement after the cabinet meeting, saying that he raised the issue of parasitic and underperforming crony contractors will be blacklisted and replaced. He also said that the whole system needed to be relooked at and agreed to look into our proposal to employ workers directly and not through a middleperson who in many instances ended up taking a portion of the salary of the workers. This was the first Minister who actually looked at the fundamental issue rather than give the usual excuses.

Since then, we had the pleasure of working with some of his officers, specifically Shaza, who used to update us on a weekly basis, working past office hours, listening to the many complaints we raised about the problematic contract system in school. This attitude changed our view that most of those working in Government ‘makan gaji buta’ and just work 9 to 5. For that, let me salute them.

Now let me touch on other issues not raised in the current petition going around supporting him.  For example, under Maszlee, student activists were more protected; he prevented University authorities from taking action on students each time they expressed themselves through protests and other actions. During previous Administration, the Minister always stood with the establishment and not the students. That is something which helped students to express themselves knowing very well that they had protection from disciplinary action.

I was also told by many teachers that Maszlee made many reforms in the school system but many of his reforms did not go well on the ground because the bureaucracy was not assisting. It is not surprising that the Teachers Union NUTP speaks so highly of him. Many teachers too have since expressed how Maszlee did actually addresses some of the main issues raised by teachers.

He made many u-turns after bringing matters to the cabinet. This can be seen with the matriculation issue and Jawi. It is maybe that he is inexperienced as he has always stated himself or maybe he should have talked less, like the many PH Ministers who don’t say much, preferring to be silent in order to survive. Most of these issues were tough issues like JAWI, Matriculation and Unified Examination Certificate (UEC) are difficult issues. These are issues which has been there for 6 decades which PH as a team have been unable to address since they end up playing the same racial game like the BN. Therefore it is unfair that Maszlee is blamed when on all occasion, the cabinet took the decision with of course ayahanda Mahathir sitting at the helm.

On other issues -  free quality breakfast,  opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children. These are huge achievements compared to the black shoe which hardly got mentioned. It was reported that he opened 10,200 classes to cater for 24,998 OKU special children. On all these initiatives, I am with him because he has contributed towards creating a more caring society and opening up public spaces for the commons.

Since coming to power, he has resigned twice. Once, after being appointed as the President of the International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) when students and many spoke about conflict of interest and now. On the first occasion, even Mahathir supported his appointment but he took the right decision to resign but this time it is a no choice situation  Mahathir called for his resignation and it could be part of a likely cabinet reshuffle. Maszlee should feel happy that  he was not removed due to corruption or other scandals. He went in without a Datukship and came out without one.  To Maszlee all the best.

*S.Arutchelvan*  _PSM Deputy Chairperson_
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Thats the problem with him. Nobody knew what he did or what he was doing even if he did anything.

When u do something, ppl need to know. If not, its the same as not doing.

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 4 2020, 02:23 AM)
Thats the problem with him. Nobody knew what he did or what he was doing even if he did anything.

When u do something, ppl need to know. If not, its the same as not doing.
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Hm. Media played a big role in hyping up the wrong things about him. I remember the first thing people say about the black shoes is how shoe sellers are going to survive with those unsold white shoes. Rather than proactively trying to solve the problem, they chose to smear his name right away. It’s downhill from there.
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Didn't read at all.

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jan 4 2020, 09:07 AM)
*Maszlee – behind the black shoes* PARTI SOSIALIS MALAYSIA – 3RD JAN,2020.

I am inspired to write this article after reading all the comments in Mkini; bashing Maszlee Malik and I am sure, this piece will end up in the same tone.

Maszlee Malik’s sudden resignation took many people and me myself by surprise. It seems that he was forced into the resignation by the Prime Minister. One wonders what the plan is since until Maszlee was appointed; the only other person who was interested in the job was Mahathir himself. Maszlee’s resignation speech – reading from between the lines would confirm that Mahathir wanted him out. 

Maszlee has definitely been made a scapegoat here. He has been always made to look like a dumb Minister who doesn’t know his job. Sensational media reporting and often unfair titles put him always in the defensive mode.

He was polled as the second lowest – 27 out 28 in Malaysiakini’s poll on Ministers’ performance. This is understandable because most Mkini readers are middle class, mostly non-Malay and have a definite bias against him. They fear that Maszlee with his Islamic credentials was going to turn our education system into an Islamic one. Most DAP leaders scored high points. Now imagine if Harakah conducted a similar poll and you will know how the outcome would be.

The Black shoe labelling never left him and it was always used to ridicule and undermine him. I am sure if we took a vote among students, they would prefer black shoes to white. Anyway that is not the point here.

Mahathir has decided to replace him and therefore it would be easy now to put all the blame on the Jawi issue, matriculation and other controversial stuff on him.  Two of Mahathir’s staunch supporters Tun Daim and Rafidah Aziz have constantly taken swipes at him and that is further indication that he has fallen out of favour with the Mighty M.

Let me share a personal experience and tell you why some of us have a soft spot for him. JPKK which is a network of contract workers in Government departments has been campaigning over the years to improve the plight of contract workers mainly cleaners and security guards in schools. We have previously tried in vain to meet with the previous education Minister. The only people who met us were some officers and department heads, who were not in a position to make decisions.
But the PH Education Minister Maszlee quite readily gave us an appointment to meet and have a dialogue with us. I was very sceptical before the meeting based on the bad image formed in my mind about him. Before the meeting, his office asked for our memorandum and proposal, which was itself quite out of the ordinary.

At the meeting, we were pleasantly surprised to note that he had actually read our memorandum beforehand. He was not pretending as if he knew everything, which most Ministers try to do. He addressed each of our proposals and directed his officials to act on them. He then told us that he will bring up our proposals in the Cabinet meeting the next day. I thought he was pulling a fast one because that is what most Ministers tell you. True to his promise, he issued a media statement after the cabinet meeting, saying that he raised the issue of parasitic and underperforming crony contractors will be blacklisted and replaced. He also said that the whole system needed to be relooked at and agreed to look into our proposal to employ workers directly and not through a middleperson who in many instances ended up taking a portion of the salary of the workers. This was the first Minister who actually looked at the fundamental issue rather than give the usual excuses.

Since then, we had the pleasure of working with some of his officers, specifically Shaza, who used to update us on a weekly basis, working past office hours, listening to the many complaints we raised about the problematic contract system in school. This attitude changed our view that most of those working in Government ‘makan gaji buta’ and just work 9 to 5. For that, let me salute them.

Now let me touch on other issues not raised in the current petition going around supporting him.  For example, under Maszlee, student activists were more protected; he prevented University authorities from taking action on students each time they expressed themselves through protests and other actions. During previous Administration, the Minister always stood with the establishment and not the students. That is something which helped students to express themselves knowing very well that they had protection from disciplinary action.

I was also told by many teachers that Maszlee made many reforms in the school system but many of his reforms did not go well on the ground because the bureaucracy was not assisting. It is not surprising that the Teachers Union NUTP speaks so highly of him. Many teachers too have since expressed how Maszlee did actually addresses some of the main issues raised by teachers.

He made many u-turns after bringing matters to the cabinet. This can be seen with the matriculation issue and Jawi. It is maybe that he is inexperienced as he has always stated himself or maybe he should have talked less, like the many PH Ministers who don’t say much, preferring to be silent in order to survive. Most of these issues were tough issues like JAWI, Matriculation and Unified Examination Certificate (UEC) are difficult issues. These are issues which has been there for 6 decades which PH as a team have been unable to address since they end up playing the same racial game like the BN. Therefore it is unfair that Maszlee is blamed when on all occasion, the cabinet took the decision with of course ayahanda Mahathir sitting at the helm.

On other issues -  free quality breakfast,  opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children. These are huge achievements compared to the black shoe which hardly got mentioned. It was reported that he opened 10,200 classes to cater for 24,998 OKU special children. On all these initiatives, I am with him because he has contributed towards creating a more caring society and opening up public spaces for the commons.

Since coming to power, he has resigned twice. Once, after being appointed as the President of the International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) when students and many spoke about conflict of interest and now. On the first occasion, even Mahathir supported his appointment but he took the right decision to resign but this time it is a no choice situation  Mahathir called for his resignation and it could be part of a likely cabinet reshuffle. Maszlee should feel happy that  he was not removed due to corruption or other scandals. He went in without a Datukship and came out without one.  To Maszlee all the best.

*S.Arutchelvan*  _PSM Deputy Chairperson_
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Its too late now... Malaysian prefer cheap publicity politician vs politician who do the real.work

Malaysians also prefer to close one eye and see black shoes only simply because the minister are not their guy

Hopeless scum
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Petition on him have reach 400k in less than 2 days. It shows how many people like him. No wonder many other politician jelly and wanna see him out of politic.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 4 2020, 09:23 AM)
Thats the problem with him. Nobody knew what he did or what he was doing even if he did anything.

When u do something, ppl need to know. If not, its the same as not doing.
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I blame the people and the media themself.

Media dgn tajuk2 sensasi je hari2. Yg baik2. Ada dua minit je keluar.

Org awam lak bg reportpun pemalas baca. Kepo ngan kasut hitam dgn jawi tak habis2
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jan 4 2020, 09:14 AM)
what u guys worry about he is still young still can come back to become minister again
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how the hell parti socialist malaysia is not banned, farking commie in sheeps clothing
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QUOTE(wadepak @ Jan 4 2020, 09:32 AM)
Petition on him have reach 400k in less than 2 days. It shows how many people like  him. No wonder many other politician jelly and wanna see him out of politic.
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Funny how the bn and pas supporters chastise the ph ones for defending him

And now he resigned, they chastise ph supporters for demanding his resignation

Lol
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 4 2020, 09:18 AM)
What I worry is the constant changeup in education which will affect the policies in schools and universities. Yet, people easily call for change each time a decision don't go their way.
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people think change minister as easy change smartphone every year




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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 4 2020, 09:23 AM)
Thats the problem with him. Nobody knew what he did or what he was doing even if he did anything.

When u do something, ppl need to know. If not, its the same as not doing.
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If the media don't want to let the public know, then what can you do?
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jan 4 2020, 09:28 AM)
Hm. Media played a big role in hyping up the wrong things about him. I remember the first thing people say about the black shoes is how shoe sellers are going to survive with those unsold white shoes. Rather than proactively trying to solve the problem, they chose to smear his name right away. It’s downhill from there.
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Ya know media control by ???
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This article highlights Mazlee problem in politics. He punish the cronies. Cronies is the one that will fund the party political movement. If kroni no money then political party also no money
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 4 2020, 09:34 AM)
Funny how the bn and pas supporters chastise the ph ones for defending him

And now he resigned, they chastise ph supporters for demanding his resignation

Lol
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Where were these articles last year?
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I like to see lge resigned, and really want to read opinion as such especially from psm.

But my 1st preferred choice for this experiment will be waytharmoorty and I bet he will also get the 400000 petition for reinstatement.
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Yala salah media

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QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ Jan 4 2020, 09:48 AM)
Where were these articles last year?
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If you selectively only want to hear about kasut hitam or jawi issue, you wont be able to read all these la.

Try google mazlee with relevant things he had done, is all there. But people just prefer to bash on those sensational news on him.

QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 4 2020, 09:35 AM)
Ya know media control by ???
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It because of no control that the media just make sensational news.

How many time i caught media nowadays report differently in expression than the actual interview or press conference.

This post has been edited by jenniferjen: Jan 4 2020, 09:57 AM
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Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.


Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."


GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that. ....What was the result?. Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example: Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
: (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

How long?: 190 days.


I am skeptical of such "general" planning. Could do better than give a chart of what kids eat in canteen/school today VS what are the food plans. Aside terminating canteen contracts.

Most of us are grown up in our kids days with
a) ice popsickles
b) bee hoon / noodle soup
c) fried rice
d) maybe some ice milo/soda drink
e) those crap sugar stuff that cost from 10 to 50 cents.

so...what is this program replacing?...
250 million isn't much to be honest for ALL schools.

We have 7773 primary schools today.
For 190 days, for 7773 schools there.... each gets an allocation of
$170 per day.

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.


It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.




Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jan 4 2020, 09:07 AM)
*Maszlee – behind the black shoes* PARTI SOSIALIS MALAYSIA – 3RD JAN,2020.

I am inspired to write this article after reading all the comments in Mkini; bashing Maszlee Malik and I am sure, this piece will end up in the same tone.

Maszlee Malik’s sudden resignation took many people and me myself by surprise. It seems that he was forced into the resignation by the Prime Minister. One wonders what the plan is since until Maszlee was appointed; the only other person who was interested in the job was Mahathir himself. Maszlee’s resignation speech – reading from between the lines would confirm that Mahathir wanted him out. 

Maszlee has definitely been made a scapegoat here. He has been always made to look like a dumb Minister who doesn’t know his job. Sensational media reporting and often unfair titles put him always in the defensive mode.

He was polled as the second lowest – 27 out 28 in Malaysiakini’s poll on Ministers’ performance. This is understandable because most Mkini readers are middle class, mostly non-Malay and have a definite bias against him. They fear that Maszlee with his Islamic credentials was going to turn our education system into an Islamic one. Most DAP leaders scored high points. Now imagine if Harakah conducted a similar poll and you will know how the outcome would be.

The Black shoe labelling never left him and it was always used to ridicule and undermine him. I am sure if we took a vote among students, they would prefer black shoes to white. Anyway that is not the point here.

Mahathir has decided to replace him and therefore it would be easy now to put all the blame on the Jawi issue, matriculation and other controversial stuff on him.  Two of Mahathir’s staunch supporters Tun Daim and Rafidah Aziz have constantly taken swipes at him and that is further indication that he has fallen out of favour with the Mighty M.

Let me share a personal experience and tell you why some of us have a soft spot for him. JPKK which is a network of contract workers in Government departments has been campaigning over the years to improve the plight of contract workers mainly cleaners and security guards in schools. We have previously tried in vain to meet with the previous education Minister. The only people who met us were some officers and department heads, who were not in a position to make decisions.
But the PH Education Minister Maszlee quite readily gave us an appointment to meet and have a dialogue with us. I was very sceptical before the meeting based on the bad image formed in my mind about him. Before the meeting, his office asked for our memorandum and proposal, which was itself quite out of the ordinary.

At the meeting, we were pleasantly surprised to note that he had actually read our memorandum beforehand. He was not pretending as if he knew everything, which most Ministers try to do. He addressed each of our proposals and directed his officials to act on them. He then told us that he will bring up our proposals in the Cabinet meeting the next day. I thought he was pulling a fast one because that is what most Ministers tell you. True to his promise, he issued a media statement after the cabinet meeting, saying that he raised the issue of parasitic and underperforming crony contractors will be blacklisted and replaced. He also said that the whole system needed to be relooked at and agreed to look into our proposal to employ workers directly and not through a middleperson who in many instances ended up taking a portion of the salary of the workers. This was the first Minister who actually looked at the fundamental issue rather than give the usual excuses.

Since then, we had the pleasure of working with some of his officers, specifically Shaza, who used to update us on a weekly basis, working past office hours, listening to the many complaints we raised about the problematic contract system in school. This attitude changed our view that most of those working in Government ‘makan gaji buta’ and just work 9 to 5. For that, let me salute them.

Now let me touch on other issues not raised in the current petition going around supporting him.  For example, under Maszlee, student activists were more protected; he prevented University authorities from taking action on students each time they expressed themselves through protests and other actions. During previous Administration, the Minister always stood with the establishment and not the students. That is something which helped students to express themselves knowing very well that they had protection from disciplinary action.

I was also told by many teachers that Maszlee made many reforms in the school system but many of his reforms did not go well on the ground because the bureaucracy was not assisting. It is not surprising that the Teachers Union NUTP speaks so highly of him. Many teachers too have since expressed how Maszlee did actually addresses some of the main issues raised by teachers.

He made many u-turns after bringing matters to the cabinet. This can be seen with the matriculation issue and Jawi. It is maybe that he is inexperienced as he has always stated himself or maybe he should have talked less, like the many PH Ministers who don’t say much, preferring to be silent in order to survive. Most of these issues were tough issues like JAWI, Matriculation and Unified Examination Certificate (UEC) are difficult issues. These are issues which has been there for 6 decades which PH as a team have been unable to address since they end up playing the same racial game like the BN. Therefore it is unfair that Maszlee is blamed when on all occasion, the cabinet took the decision with of course ayahanda Mahathir sitting at the helm.

On other issues -  free quality breakfast,  opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children. These are huge achievements compared to the black shoe which hardly got mentioned. It was reported that he opened 10,200 classes to cater for 24,998 OKU special children. On all these initiatives, I am with him because he has contributed towards creating a more caring society and opening up public spaces for the commons.

Since coming to power, he has resigned twice. Once, after being appointed as the President of the International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) when students and many spoke about conflict of interest and now. On the first occasion, even Mahathir supported his appointment but he took the right decision to resign but this time it is a no choice situation  Mahathir called for his resignation and it could be part of a likely cabinet reshuffle. Maszlee should feel happy that  he was not removed due to corruption or other scandals. He went in without a Datukship and came out without one.  To Maszlee all the best.

*S.Arutchelvan*  _PSM Deputy Chairperson_
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Action talk louder than words, his actions speak otherwise than wats written above.
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."
GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that.  ....What was the result?.  Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example:  Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
  good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
:  (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

How long?:  190 days.
I am skeptical of such "general" planning. Could do better than give a chart of what kids eat in canteen/school today  VS  what are the food plans. Aside terminating canteen contracts.

Most of us are grown up in our kids days with
a) ice popsickles
b) bee hoon / noodle soup
c) fried rice
d) maybe some ice milo/soda drink
e) those crap sugar stuff that cost from 10 to 50 cents.

so...what is this program replacing?...
250 million isn't much to be honest for ALL schools.

We have 7773 primary schools today.
For 190 days, for 7773 schools there.... each gets an allocation of
$170 per day.

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.
It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.
Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ
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Based on malaysia standard since ruled by bn, doing something is GOOD, cause is already better than doing nothing.
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jan 4 2020, 09:56 AM)
If you selectively only want to hear about kasut hitam or jawi issue, you wont be able to read all these la.

Try google mazlee with relevant things he had done, is all there. But people just prefer to bash on those sensational news on him.
It because of no control that the media just make sensational news.

How many time i caught media nowadays report differently in expression than the actual interview or press conference.
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Should not remove that fake news law
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jan 4 2020, 09:28 AM)
Hm. Media played a big role in hyping up the wrong things about him. I remember the first thing people say about the black shoes is how shoe sellers are going to survive with those unsold white shoes. Rather than proactively trying to solve the problem, they chose to smear his name right away. It’s downhill from there.
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That actually valid if u in seller's shoes pun intended. They still need to sell that shoes.

And that is problem with this edu minister. Its good he leap into action. But he never seem to sit down and think of the consequences no matter how small. Just like jawi, straight off making it compulsory and then back track to optional after backlash. Like even if u think jawi is just khat for artistic only, a lot of non will view it with suspicioan especially after the whole medan dakwah on borneo incident. And that's another thing, maszlee seem more interested in shoving Islam into things than issue that PH has promised to resolve like the long standing UEC. I don't like mandarin btw even though cina. But if u promise something, handle that one first than jumping into stupid ones.

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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."
GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that.  ....What was the result?.  Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example:  Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
  good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
:  (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.
It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.
Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ
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I thought it's for B40 kids and the ones who are left behind/tercicir so this will at least incentivise them to go to school and concentrate on the lesson instead of worrying about empty stomach

same reason for that new way of intake for MRSM/SBP too

more on the focus of giving opportunities for B40 kids so that when they grow up they won't be the rempit or drug addict you despise so much

the goal for character building is essential too as there's no point about that whole knowledge without appropriate personality and character

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 4 2020, 09:18 AM)
What I worry is the constant changeup in education which will affect the policies in schools and universities. Yet, people easily call for change each time a decision don't go their way.
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this...yup...cant imagine MOE change again meanwhile other ministry already stable and start moving for better

cant wait to the replacement...part of me hope the replacement is stupid person who have no balls and keep taichi everything


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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.
Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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Him being Islamic vs him shoving Islam value on non is different thing. Do u like it if I say every students from now on must wear red and sit in circle cause feng shui? Nothing religion about it and simply artistic value and "luck" but I bet no one will like except fengshui nuts.

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.
Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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I've already predicted his downfall, but never expected thanos to snap him so fast.

The media loves to ridicule his black shoes nonsense.
Regarding the Khat and Jawi thing is all instructed by Thanos himself as it's a great tactic to distract the masses from bad economy.

Those politicians that wanna stick long will become a headless chicken, no real changes will happen.

For 20months I'd say he did a great job, but the rest of the major decisions like reverting to English to teach maths and science is not his decision to make alone.


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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
Chinese people don’t like Maszlee because he is more islamic than any EM..

Malay dont like Maszlee because his black shoes, simpang renggam tol issue.

Indian no issue with Maszlee.
Maszlee will still be EM if Thanos not in PH, but truth told, without Thanos, I dont think PH can win the GE.

Anyhow, we lost good EM, the Khat issue is small, but hatred from non malay towards Maszlee decision was on it was bigger than the issue..

Should sack the DEM that allow such propaganda comic..
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cannot touch that deputy...later people called you racist..oppress minority whistling.gif
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Black shoe policy, it may have won the hearts of parent as they no longer need to wash the shoe weekly. But have you imagine the smells of the black shoe not wash for a year, worn by 50 students inside a classroom. Then multiply by the no of class in a school. I cant imagine how smelly it would be.

For free quality breakfast, where do you think the money comes from? Its from taxpayer money definitely. And who will get these kind of lucrative contracts with high markup price? Go figure.
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QUOTE(8bitguy @ Jan 4 2020, 09:12 AM)
The real Mazlee got some bromance with Azmin Semburit.

Thats the real reason he resign.
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QUOTE(kennykck @ Jan 4 2020, 10:13 AM)
Black shoe policy, it may have won the hearts of parent as they no longer need to wash the shoe weekly. But have you imagine the smells of the black shoe not wash for a year, worn by 50 students inside a classroom. Then multiply by the no of class in a school. I cant imagine how smelly it would be.

For free quality breakfast, where do you think the money comes from? Its from taxpayer money definitely. And who will get these kind of lucrative contracts with high markup price? Go figure.
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If the shoes got smelly, do we need to put the blame on the policy. It’s on the parents who are not hygienic. As for the breakfast, it’s a good approach for kids. Having hood breakfast is good for them. The contract is another thing. Don’t mix good policy with poor governance. They need to improve governance as they said that they are transparent and whatnot. As a taxpayer, of course we want good governance and the benefit is return to the people.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 4 2020, 10:06 AM)
That actually valid if u in seller's shoes pun intended. They still need to sell that shoes.

And that is problem with this edu minister. Its good he leap into action. But he never seem to sit down and think of the consequences no matter how small. Just like jawi, straight off making it compulsory and then back track to optional after backlash. Like even if u think jawi is just khat for artistic only, a lot of non will view it with suspicioan especially after the whole medan dakwah on borneo incident. And that's another thing, maszlee seem more interested in shoving Islam into things than issue that PH has promised to resolve like the long standing UEC. I don't like mandarin btw even though cina. But if u promise something, handle that one first than jumping into stupid ones.
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yeah his downfall is he's not that self-aware(or don't care?) of the nuance needed in navigating these issues but his ministry is a vital one that is producing quality human capital in nation building thus it seems like he wanted to fix the supporting structure first before the pillar itself

a bit too idealistic and doesn't bother about all the politicking

that's why he's the first one to get the guillotine - the harsh reality of administrating Malaysia where more is focused on remaining in power instead of doing what's best for the country while still on the throne

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QUOTE(razgriz_0087 @ Jan 4 2020, 10:19 AM)
If the shoes got smelly, do we need to put the blame on the policy. It’s on the parents who are not hygienic. As for the breakfast, it’s a good approach for kids. Having hood breakfast is good for them. The contract is another thing. Don’t mix good policy with poor governance. They need to improve governance as they said that they are transparent and whatnot. As a taxpayer, of course we want good governance and the benefit is return to the people.
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Jawi, kasut hitam etc not the reason la.

The only reason coz he kacau big kroni YTL project.

Thats all
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jan 4 2020, 09:58 AM)
"On other issues - free quality breakfast, opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children..."
GOOD or BAD, cannot be dictated by what was done. It is the end result. Yes, I opened 1000 schools, I done that.  ....What was the result?.  Doing something does not mean GOOD ultimately.


Example:  Quality breakfast....how was this program undertaken?


Purpose:
  good eating habits and civic consciousness about food.

Funding:

The free breakfast programme, he said will be handled the same way as the current Supplementary Food Programme (RMT) and prepared by the schools' respective canteens.

290 million ringgit will be used to fund this.

What meals?
:  (50 million) Milk and "other foods" What is the list?.....none?. 250 million goes to the actual "food" (unknown as well).

How long?:  190 days.
I am skeptical of such "general" planning. Could do better than give a chart of what kids eat in canteen/school today  VS  what are the food plans. Aside terminating canteen contracts.

Most of us are grown up in our kids days with
a) ice popsickles
b) bee hoon / noodle soup
c) fried rice
d) maybe some ice milo/soda drink
e) those crap sugar stuff that cost from 10 to 50 cents.

so...what is this program replacing?...
250 million isn't much to be honest for ALL schools.

We have 7773 primary schools today.
For 190 days, for 7773 schools there.... each gets an allocation of
$170 per day.

If there are total 170 primary students (standard 1-6) ....what kind of "Quality" breakfast can you get with $1 ?.
It's NOT a genius math, it's just there..... RM$170 per day, per primary school.
Ref:
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/...od-says-maszlee

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...eputy-minister/

http://myschoolchildren.com/list-of-all-pr...a/#.XhDPJ_x7laQ
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So is he an academician or not ?
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I told ktards last time
This mamak is master at politics.
Blowing jawi out of proportion is his doing. his minions daim and rafidah is the propaganda machine.

there is no honesty with mamak politics, only backstab in stealth mode.

I am guessing his cronies being cut off by maszlee.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 4 2020, 09:17 AM)
Mana report The real najib razak what people dont know ?
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The thing about our education system is it needs to change. But the problem is some loud ppl dont want the change. Puikk
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QUOTE(hakimix @ Jan 4 2020, 10:19 AM)
yeah his downfall is he's not that self-aware(or don't care?) of the nuance needed in navigating these issues but his ministry is a vital one that is producing quality human capital in nation building thus it seems like he wanted to fix the supporting structure first before the pillar itself

a bit too idealistic and doesn't bother about all the politicking

that's why he's the first one to get the guillotine - the harsh reality of administrating Malaysia where more is focused on remaining in power instead of doing what's best for the country while still on the throne
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Dumb Malaysians removed a good Education Minister for all the wrong perceptions.
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This is the reason why he resigned twice...

"He did not budge when student groups protested his appointment in September 2018 as IIUM president.

These activists were unhappy as they felt that it went against a Pakatan promise not to have politicians heading academic institutions.

He eventually announced his resignation from the post in January last year.

This delay in stepping down as IIUM president did not help his cause."

Read this article on other past events...

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...from-the-get-go

It was a bumpy road from the get-go.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 4 2020, 03:06 AM)
That actually valid if u in seller's shoes pun intended. They still need to sell that shoes.

And that is problem with this edu minister. Its good he leap into action. But he never seem to sit down and think of the consequences no matter how small. Just like jawi, straight off making it compulsory and then back track to optional after backlash. Like even if u think jawi is just khat for artistic only, a lot of non will view it with suspicioan especially after the whole medan dakwah on borneo incident. And that's another thing, maszlee seem more interested in shoving Islam into things than issue that PH has promised to resolve like the long standing UEC. I don't like mandarin btw even though cina. But if u promise something, handle that one first than jumping into stupid ones.
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Hence the reason I said the shoe issue can be handled better.

I’ll chalk that down to inexperience.

I’d say the Jawi thing, once made compulsory with those 3 pages, stick to your gun.

The medan dakwah thing was really taken out of context. I know him personally, Maszlee. The way he meant dakwah is convincing people to do the right thing, not in religious context. Still, he said it and people misinterpreted it. Hindsight is 20/20 after all.

The UEC thing, they should’ve gone for middle ground. Just say UEC will be recognised but the applicant will need to pass certain qualifications from SPM or STPM as well. That way the promise won’t be broken and will appease the majority as well.
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jan 4 2020, 10:38 AM)
newmalaysia govt are haunted by the story they told old govt..."need to hear all rintihan rakyat", "every opinion is precious" and all those bullshit...now they running the show and they know la how shit things are... but its ok...can blame all on BN and najib later  laugh.gif
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Hahaha taste their own medicine!
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QUOTE(kennykck @ Jan 4 2020, 10:13 AM)
Black shoe policy, it may have won the hearts of parent as they no longer need to wash the shoe weekly. But have you imagine the smells of the black shoe not wash for a year, worn by 50 students inside a classroom. Then multiply by the no of class in a school. I cant imagine how smelly it would be.

For free quality breakfast, where do you think the money comes from? Its from taxpayer money definitely. And who will get these kind of lucrative contracts with high markup price? Go figure.
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So washing own shoe is also gov responsibility is it? Need gov send daily reminder is it?

Lmao
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In the time of BN tyranny and corruption do you see anyone step down for perceived poor job performance?
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 4 2020, 10:10 AM)
I've already predicted his downfall, but never expected thanos to snap him so fast.

The media loves to ridicule his black shoes nonsense.
Regarding the Khat and Jawi thing is all instructed by Thanos himself as it's a great tactic to distract the masses from bad economy.

Those politicians that wanna stick long will become a headless chicken, no real changes will happen.

For 20months I'd say he did a great job, but the rest of the major decisions like reverting to English to teach maths and science is not his decision to make alone.
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i also dunno why black shoe become a bullet thing. All i know that black shoe discussion study has been for a while 2 years before election. It is just a coincidence that the decision was done after election
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 4 2020, 11:10 AM)
Him being Islamic vs him shoving Islam value on non is different thing. Do u like it if I say every students from now on must wear red and sit in circle cause feng shui? Nothing religion about it and simply artistic value and "luck" but I bet no one will like except fengshui nuts.
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So where you got the idea of muslim friendly?

Owh, as long as it brings money and profit, suddenly islam value no prob.

Khat and jawi is not islam value, its malaysian value, being part of malaysian identity.

Jawi dont apply in middle east tho khat not entirely in whole region.

I dont have any problem with his or MOE plan, only things need to be clear at the execution level.

He himself can speak several language, including arab and mandarin. He’s way diversed than your sorry ass.

QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 4 2020, 11:10 AM)
I've already predicted his downfall, but never expected thanos to snap him so fast.

The media loves to ridicule his black shoes nonsense.
Regarding the Khat and Jawi thing is all instructed by Thanos himself as it's a great tactic to distract the masses from bad economy.

Those politicians that wanna stick long will become a headless chicken, no real changes will happen.

For 20months I'd say he did a great job, but the rest of the major decisions like reverting to English to teach maths and science is not his decision to make alone.
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Some group really hard to remove him.
Thanos advised him according the current situation, not for Thanos benefit, he couldnt care less for YTL.

QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jan 4 2020, 11:12 AM)
cannot touch that deputy...later people called you racist..oppress minority    whistling.gif
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Same group I stated above, ok with that deputy action that can disharmony that somehow, similar to japs pamphlets, resulting a birth of ‘Buang’ type of people...

(Buang is a character in Sarjan Hassan)



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So washing own shoe is also gov responsibility is it? Need gov send daily reminder is it?

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No need to layan those dumb bro.. later da buat IR4 frenly education dia blame pupil x bole cope laa

Full of hatred, how come bole think about smell kasut x basuh setahun? seriously dumb Malaysian, dats y we deserve stupid minister both PH and BN alike
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 4 2020, 11:00 AM)
Didn't read at all.

Delusional mother fucker at best.
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The black shoe ruling is a joke. Parents and students are pemalas will sokong him. Myself also dreaded washing own shoes previously. After several years of forced labour, I come to accept it openly. Not difficult and sometimes have reward from parents like extra hours for using the computer or Nintendo. Ok la.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 4 2020, 11:28 AM)
The black shoe ruling is a joke. Parents and students are pemalas will sokong him. Myself also dreaded washing own shoes previously. After several years of forced labour, I come to accept it openly. Not difficult and sometimes have reward from parents like extra hours for using the computer or Nintendo. Ok la.
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gosh...the black shoe idea was bn time ruling lah.

my sister who is teacher, 2 years before election have made poll study to ask parent on their preference on school dressing

so its not fair to blame mazlee, when it was bn project

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 4 2020, 11:28 AM)
The black shoe ruling is a joke. Parents and students are pemalas will sokong him. Myself also dreaded washing own shoes previously. After several years of forced labour, I come to accept it openly. Not difficult and sometimes have reward from parents like extra hours for using the computer or Nintendo. Ok la.
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dats y Malaysian deserve stupid politician, stupid rakyat only think their own saje

you think black shoe only have to do with laziness right? how about making poor people not have to buy new shoes frequently when black shoe no need to wash regularly? you mingle with poor people or not?

padan muka Malaysian get stupid leader both PH and BN, you guys deserve it
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since pipu dont know how the writer know

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 4 2020, 09:30 AM)
Didn't read at all.

Delusional mother fucker at best.
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You're one of the example of delusional people who mentioned in the article.
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keke the bodoh is replaced. If he approved UEC, he might not be hated..
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 4 2020, 11:28 AM)
The black shoe ruling is a joke. Parents and students are pemalas will sokong him. Myself also dreaded washing own shoes previously. After several years of forced labour, I come to accept it openly. Not difficult and sometimes have reward from parents like extra hours for using the computer or Nintendo. Ok la.
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Then why you use email? Use paper mail la. Accept it.

Mcm ni kualiti stobeli gen bodo nak mampos otak bebal kat bontot.
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While minister like Rina is unseen but still surviving.
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 4 2020, 11:38 AM)
Then why you use email? Use paper mail la. Accept it.

Mcm ni kualiti stobeli gen bodo nak mampos otak bebal kat bontot.
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Why u using phone or computer to reply? If malas means malas la. Otak sotong. Only good for goreng.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 4 2020, 11:41 AM)
Why u using phone or computer to reply? If malas means malas la. Otak sotong. Only good for goreng.
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Oh so u can choose to have luxury of writing emails.
but future kids must continue wash shoes frequently?

i get it.
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Some nail it here. If he approve uec then he will survive and again I bet that is the first thing the new em will do. So who control the govt?
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When Maszlee put up his report card of his ministry's performance, /k hantam said syok sendiri. Now you read from somebody who is actually from opposition party write good thing about Maszlee that is actually in the report card, like OKU opportunity etc.

Sometime /k are more retard than OKU.
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jan 4 2020, 11:30 AM)
gosh...the black shoe idea was bn time ruling lah.

my sister who is teacher, 2 years before election have made poll study to ask parent on their preference on school dressing

so its not fair to blame mazlee, when it was bn project
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No shit. BN's idea ? Why on earth didn't Mazlee open his mouth ? Why did Mazlee continued with BN's nonsense when PH was the new government ?
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Enforce on melayu first. Haram smoking dulu. Lead by example.
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smoking never cause immediate danger.
priority is drugs and alcohol.

both can cause immediate danger.
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No shit. BN's idea ? Why on earth didn't Mazlee open his mouth ? Why did Mazlee continued with BN's nonsense when PH was the new government ?
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See? That shows what kind of person maszlee is. he is not going to blame others for what he passed. we lost good politicians all because thanos send rafidah and daim to play jawi issue. bangsat!
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jan 4 2020, 11:49 AM)
no need to talk to you. we all know you are bodoh.
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u got nothing. cause u know i am right. but too ego to admit.
have a nice day.
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u got nothing. cause u know i am right. but too ego to admit.
have a nice day.
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I wouldnt say ego bro.. they are just dumb, when lose with fact putar belit to things totally unrelated e.g kasut x basuh nnt smelly enough.. stupid scum
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 4 2020, 11:50 AM)
See? That shows what kind of person maszlee is. he is not going to blame others for what he passed. we lost good politicians all because thanos send rafidah and daim to play jawi issue. bangsat!
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Wait bro., let me get this right. He was just a political assassination simply because he was cutting the cashflow of the cronies by using the jawi or khat thingy so that everyone non-Muslim would go against him ?

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jan 4 2020, 10:41 AM)
Hence the reason I said the shoe issue can be handled better.

I’ll chalk that down to inexperience.

I’d say the Jawi thing, once made compulsory with those 3 pages, stick to your gun.

The medan dakwah thing was really taken out of context. I know him personally, Maszlee. The way he meant dakwah is convincing people to do the right thing, not in religious context. Still, he said it and people misinterpreted it. Hindsight is 20/20 after all.

The UEC thing, they should’ve gone for middle ground. Just say UEC will be recognised but the applicant will need to pass certain qualifications from SPM or STPM as well. That way the promise won’t be broken and will appease the majority as well.
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Sorry but pretty sure that's what he meant on medan dakwah. Semenanjung has trying very hard to convert borneo and there has been effect. Talk to the non there and they will all agree. So maszlee with that statement is not surprising. He can twist and turn how dakwah is interpreted but pretty sure that was intention in first place. If no religion agenda shouldn't even mention Islam in first place.

And no to the compulsory jawi. I meant he should discuss with stakeholders first before intro it.

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Sorry but pretty sure that's what he meant on medan dakwah. Semenanjung has trying very hard to convert borneo and there has been effect. Talk to the non there and they will all agree. So maszlee with that statement is not surprising.  He can twist and turn how dakwah is interpreted but pretty sure that was intention in first place.

And no to the compulsory jawi. I meant he should discuss with stakeholders first before into it.
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A good value is good value nevertheless whoever said that. Our problem is seems that we are quick to reject something just because of who said what, not actually what is being said. The opposite also happen where we accept whatever being by a person or anyone who we like eventhough our conscience tolds us not to like of what being said.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 4 2020, 12:00 PM)
Wait bro., let me get this right. He was just a political assassination simply because he was cutting the cashflow of the cronies by using the jawi or khat thingy so that everyone non-Muslim would go against him ?
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Cutting cashflow of cronies not by jawi/khat lah. but this:
http://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...ntraktor-211552

We all know mamak been allowing these crooks to survive as long he got supports. maszlee is trying to eliminate corruption but thanos not happy. what he do? thanos just take any issues that can be used to get public support and turn it against maszlee. like jawi and black shoe.

u are blind. most people are blind. because they think thanos is great.

fuck me la.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 4 2020, 11:49 AM)
When Maszlee put up his report card of his ministry's performance, /k hantam said syok sendiri. Now you read from somebody who is actually from opposition party write good thing about Maszlee that is actually in the report card, like OKU opportunity etc.

Sometime /k are more retard than OKU.
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Same will be said when TDM finally step down or join his ancestors ... He was the greatest statesman ever and greatest leader Malaysia will ever have.. etc. .. now still can bash...

Personally I see how TDM lives with his wife and grandkids and raised such fine children who have nothing but praise for the their husband, dad and granddad... and then I see Mr Klepto whose lavish spending and lavish wife keeps spending public funds on themselves until their own family members distance away from them.. from the brother, to the lawsuits with the disowned daughter who publicly proclaimed Mrs Klepto practices black magic...

The difference is night and day.. but as long as we Malaysians don't get what we want for our selfish selves then we blame and shame our leaders no matter what..
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the JAWi issue staraight away send him to burial ground.
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jan 4 2020, 12:08 PM)
A good value is good value nevertheless whoever said that. Our problem is seems that we are quick to reject something just because of who said what, not actually what is being said. The opposite also happen where we accept whatever being by a person or anyone who we like eventhough our conscience tolds us not to like of what being said.
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Sigh......what good value. He was talking to the specifically Islamic religious teachers to use their position to medan dakwah. He is not even addressing it to general teachers there. Pretty obvious. What if a Christian minister said to Christian teachers in peninsular to spread Christian good value? Bet u all hell break loose instead.

Bottom line maszlee never thought things through before committing.

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 4 2020, 12:13 PM)
Sigh......what good value. He was talking to the specifically Islamic religious teachers to use their position to medan dakwah. He is not even addressing it to general teachers there. Pretty obvious. What if a Christian minister said to Christian teachers in peninsular to spread Christian good value? Bet u all hell break loose instead.

Bottom line maszlee never thought things through before committing.
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no need argue with tat few ekor... waste ur time saja.... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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The truth is rakyat don't deserve him. Rakyat only deserve stupid bodo politician who keep making lies. Because most of the rakyat is bodo people, thats why want him out. Enough rant for today.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 4 2020, 12:13 PM)
Sigh......what good value. He was talking to the specifically Islamic religious teachers to use their position to medan dakwah. He is not even addressing it to general teachers there. Pretty obvious. What if a Christian minister said to Christian teachers in peninsular to spread Christian good value? Bet u all hell break loose instead.

Bottom line maszlee never thought things through before committing.
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I'm talking in general not anything specific but just for the sake or arguments, what is Christians good values that is not acceptable for non Christians, like me as a muslim for example? Which you think good values that I will reject if the said Christian minister said that to Christian teacher?


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sosialis = communist right?

isnt it time we take down this terrorist group?
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 4 2020, 12:49 PM)
smoking never cause immediate danger.
priority is drugs and alcohol.

both can cause immediate danger.
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kek, nice justification.

tell that to your maker when u meet him ok?
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no need argue with tat few ekor... waste ur time saja.... rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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Yeah u r right. No point arguing.
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QUOTE(kaisers @ Jan 4 2020, 11:33 AM)
dats y Malaysian deserve stupid politician, stupid rakyat only think their own saje

you think black shoe only have to do with laziness right? how about making poor people not have to buy new shoes frequently when black shoe no need to wash regularly? you mingle with poor people or not?

padan muka Malaysian get stupid leader both PH and BN, you guys deserve it
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Otak mereka simpleton. No observe enough. Just live in their tempurung. Never see multiple cases of people. Poor people, single.mothers. All these people burden are lifted.

Ktard apa tau. lancap in hngghh and call TS bodo. tu je la SOP budak2 bangang sini.
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QUOTE(renomahans @ Jan 4 2020, 09:34 AM)
Funny how the bn and pas supporters chastise the ph ones for defending him

And now he resigned, they chastise ph supporters for demanding his resignation

Lol
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 4 2020, 12:08 PM)
Cutting cashflow of cronies not by jawi/khat lah. but this:
http://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...ntraktor-211552

We all know mamak been allowing these crooks to survive as long he got supports. maszlee is trying to eliminate corruption but thanos not happy. what he do? thanos just take any issues that can be used to get public support and turn it against maszlee. like jawi anud black shoe.

u are blind. most people are blind. because they think thanos is great.

fuck me la.
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Yes yours truly is politically blind. Busy trying to eke out a living, just to fund our politicians lifestyle by looking smart in their Vellfires.

KNNMCCB I thought this kind of shit only existed in the movies. No wonder when I asked my good Malay friend Cikgu Ali to enter into politics, he quickly declined and said that he would be the first to be terminated since he had experienced it before at a much lower level.

With the great storyteller at the helm, I don't think it is fuck you only bro but all of us !

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 4 2020, 10:23 AM)
So is he an academician or not ?
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Maybe, maybe not.

But he don't come across as an educationist when he changed white shoes to black for whatever feeble reason there is.

White canvas shoes are part of school uniform since schools were established, not only here but also in other Asian/Asean countries.

They are inexpensive, and it has an essential role in educating young minds... go to school in clean shoes and uniform, and take pride wearing them.

There is discipline inculcated into the young minds when they have to wash the shoes and make them whiter than white during the weekends and making preparations to go school on Monday.

I don't think early educationists choosed white shoes, white socks and shirts to be part of the school uniform without deeper considerations. It is foolhardy to dismiss them.




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In chess, people said make a wrong move, you can lose the whole game.

He knew those issues were planned during bn era, as many claim jawi and black shoe or etc. If he did research a bit on why it wasn't implemented or was not a priority before, he would have put that on hold and focus on those real thing like mentioned in ts article.

When priority is given to unimportant things, and unfortunately the toxic environment, you get shit blowing all over for tiny bit of things.

And actually if he doesn't resign for those issue, it is fine. Until mahathir nasihatkan dia, so what should he do? Or what can he do? When the old warlord want him to be a scapegoat, since mamak wanna be edu minister himself?
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QUOTE(wadepak @ Jan 4 2020, 09:32 AM)
Petition on him have reach 400k in less than 2 days. It shows how many people like  him. No wonder many other politician jelly and wanna see him out of politic.
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it doesnt prove at all many people like him, it proves he is wildly unpopular
1 people love him, 100 hate him
400k love him, 10 bajillion hate him

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Oh so u can choose to have luxury of writing emails.
but future kids must continue wash shoes frequently?

i get it.
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Why should kids be lazy? Let them learn to do things by themselves la.

People like u should not be a parent.
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All i see that mazlee malik will cause change of tide of voters, this is same what happen to khalid ibrahim

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 4 2020, 01:14 PM)
Why should kids be lazy? Let them learn to do things by themselves la.

People like u should not be a parent.
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Not lazy bodo. Just time saved to be spent doing other thing more beneficial.

Mcm ko ni grad dari maner? Bengap sangat. Keje kat kaunter lowyat le ni. jual komputer je tau. pui.
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 4 2020, 01:16 PM)
Not lazy bodo. Just time saved to be spent doing other thing more beneficial.

Mcm ko ni grad dari maner? Bengap sangat. Keje kat kaunter lowyat le ni. jual komputer je tau. pui.
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biarkan diorang. diorang ni dah lama stereotype melayu.
suka label melayu ni pemalas, tak rajin.
so as it is, kalau tukar kasut hitam pun , alasan mudah malas basuh kasut
racial strereotype
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Jan 4 2020, 01:03 PM)
it doesnt prove at all many people like him, it proves he is wildly unpopular
1 people love him, 100 hate him
400k love him, 10 bajillion hate him
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How you know?


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QUOTE(pipedream @ Jan 4 2020, 12:24 PM)
kek, nice justification.

tell that to your maker when u meet him ok?
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kek ur head.
i am not even a smoker.

tell to your maker when u disagree banning of alcohol
that caused drunk driving and kill people.
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Why to amplify this guy too many times? He is paid to do his job, not on charity basis.
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How you know?
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maybe because hes the butt of jokes whenever anyone meets anyone?

when meet relatives from overseas: heyy our country compulsory teach coding already, you programmer right can teach my kid.
relative 2: waaah, really other country pushing tech to the young.
relative 3: walao a, why we all khat only.
all: *laughter and despair*

when meet with boss: last year(2018) i so happy got to meet with him, im gonna remove his photo with us on our website about us page.
all:*laughter*

now with 400k supporters millions will have new jokes now

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Jan 4 2020, 02:07 AM)
*Maszlee – behind the black shoes* PARTI SOSIALIS MALAYSIA – 3RD JAN,2020.

I am inspired to write this article after reading all the comments in Mkini; bashing Maszlee Malik and I am sure, this piece will end up in the same tone.

Maszlee Malik’s sudden resignation took many people and me myself by surprise. It seems that he was forced into the resignation by the Prime Minister. One wonders what the plan is since until Maszlee was appointed; the only other person who was interested in the job was Mahathir himself. Maszlee’s resignation speech – reading from between the lines would confirm that Mahathir wanted him out. 

Maszlee has definitely been made a scapegoat here. He has been always made to look like a dumb Minister who doesn’t know his job. Sensational media reporting and often unfair titles put him always in the defensive mode.

He was polled as the second lowest – 27 out 28 in Malaysiakini’s poll on Ministers’ performance. This is understandable because most Mkini readers are middle class, mostly non-Malay and have a definite bias against him. They fear that Maszlee with his Islamic credentials was going to turn our education system into an Islamic one. Most DAP leaders scored high points. Now imagine if Harakah conducted a similar poll and you will know how the outcome would be.

The Black shoe labelling never left him and it was always used to ridicule and undermine him. I am sure if we took a vote among students, they would prefer black shoes to white. Anyway that is not the point here.

Mahathir has decided to replace him and therefore it would be easy now to put all the blame on the Jawi issue, matriculation and other controversial stuff on him.  Two of Mahathir’s staunch supporters Tun Daim and Rafidah Aziz have constantly taken swipes at him and that is further indication that he has fallen out of favour with the Mighty M.

Let me share a personal experience and tell you why some of us have a soft spot for him. JPKK which is a network of contract workers in Government departments has been campaigning over the years to improve the plight of contract workers mainly cleaners and security guards in schools. We have previously tried in vain to meet with the previous education Minister. The only people who met us were some officers and department heads, who were not in a position to make decisions.
But the PH Education Minister Maszlee quite readily gave us an appointment to meet and have a dialogue with us. I was very sceptical before the meeting based on the bad image formed in my mind about him. Before the meeting, his office asked for our memorandum and proposal, which was itself quite out of the ordinary.

At the meeting, we were pleasantly surprised to note that he had actually read our memorandum beforehand. He was not pretending as if he knew everything, which most Ministers try to do. He addressed each of our proposals and directed his officials to act on them. He then told us that he will bring up our proposals in the Cabinet meeting the next day. I thought he was pulling a fast one because that is what most Ministers tell you. True to his promise, he issued a media statement after the cabinet meeting, saying that he raised the issue of parasitic and underperforming crony contractors will be blacklisted and replaced. He also said that the whole system needed to be relooked at and agreed to look into our proposal to employ workers directly and not through a middleperson who in many instances ended up taking a portion of the salary of the workers. This was the first Minister who actually looked at the fundamental issue rather than give the usual excuses.

Since then, we had the pleasure of working with some of his officers, specifically Shaza, who used to update us on a weekly basis, working past office hours, listening to the many complaints we raised about the problematic contract system in school. This attitude changed our view that most of those working in Government ‘makan gaji buta’ and just work 9 to 5. For that, let me salute them.

Now let me touch on other issues not raised in the current petition going around supporting him.  For example, under Maszlee, student activists were more protected; he prevented University authorities from taking action on students each time they expressed themselves through protests and other actions. During previous Administration, the Minister always stood with the establishment and not the students. That is something which helped students to express themselves knowing very well that they had protection from disciplinary action.

I was also told by many teachers that Maszlee made many reforms in the school system but many of his reforms did not go well on the ground because the bureaucracy was not assisting. It is not surprising that the Teachers Union NUTP speaks so highly of him. Many teachers too have since expressed how Maszlee did actually addresses some of the main issues raised by teachers.

He made many u-turns after bringing matters to the cabinet. This can be seen with the matriculation issue and Jawi. It is maybe that he is inexperienced as he has always stated himself or maybe he should have talked less, like the many PH Ministers who don’t say much, preferring to be silent in order to survive. Most of these issues were tough issues like JAWI, Matriculation and Unified Examination Certificate (UEC) are difficult issues. These are issues which has been there for 6 decades which PH as a team have been unable to address since they end up playing the same racial game like the BN. Therefore it is unfair that Maszlee is blamed when on all occasion, the cabinet took the decision with of course ayahanda Mahathir sitting at the helm.

On other issues -  free quality breakfast,  opening up hotel swimming pools to students, doing away with streaming and exams, making education accessible to OKUs and undocumented children. These are huge achievements compared to the black shoe which hardly got mentioned. It was reported that he opened 10,200 classes to cater for 24,998 OKU special children. On all these initiatives, I am with him because he has contributed towards creating a more caring society and opening up public spaces for the commons.

Since coming to power, he has resigned twice. Once, after being appointed as the President of the International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM) when students and many spoke about conflict of interest and now. On the first occasion, even Mahathir supported his appointment but he took the right decision to resign but this time it is a no choice situation  Mahathir called for his resignation and it could be part of a likely cabinet reshuffle. Maszlee should feel happy that  he was not removed due to corruption or other scandals. He went in without a Datukship and came out without one.  To Maszlee all the best.

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hotel swimming pool is a stupid idea. It's like asking all private citizen to open up your private house for poor student with free food. Possible?

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biarkan diorang. diorang ni dah lama stereotype melayu.
suka label melayu ni pemalas, tak rajin.
so as it is, kalau tukar kasut hitam pun , alasan mudah malas basuh kasut
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Not lazy bodo. Just time saved to be spent doing other thing more beneficial.

Mcm ko ni grad dari maner? Bengap sangat. Keje kat kaunter lowyat le ni. jual komputer je tau. pui.
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QUOTE(genecode @ Jan 4 2020, 12:08 PM)
Cutting cashflow of cronies not by jawi/khat lah. but this:
http://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...ntraktor-211552

We all know mamak been allowing these crooks to survive as long he got supports. maszlee is trying to eliminate corruption but thanos not happy. what he do? thanos just take any issues that can be used to get public support and turn it against maszlee. like jawi and black shoe.

u are blind. most people are blind. because they think thanos is great.

fuck me la.
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QUOTE(kaisers @ Jan 4 2020, 11:33 AM)
dats y Malaysian deserve stupid politician, stupid rakyat only think their own saje

you think black shoe only have to do with laziness right? how about making poor people not have to buy new shoes frequently when black shoe no need to wash regularly? you mingle with poor people or not?

padan muka Malaysian get stupid leader both PH and BN, you guys deserve it
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If the justification of black shoe because of economic factor then they should have abolished school uniform altogether. All can wear freely, but with dress code (wear shoes, dress decently) just like in universities... That's how to ease the burden for parents, not by changing colour of shoes. That's what most western kids wearing to school too

When the education system needed a new direction, one the first thing he highlighted on was black shoe instead of stating his vision, mission and action plan. His first impression was destroyed because of that

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One week ago, if there’s a poll on who are some of the worst PH ministers, his name will definitely be one of the top 5. Who was the people who made fun of his black shoes policies the most in the first place? Is it the Chinese only or so called Bangsa Bangsar? Now everyone blames DZ and Jawi issue and claimed Jawi is Malaysian culture but nobody make a noise when Jawi was sidelined since the 70’s. Can you even find any mainstream Malay newspaper, books or magazines printed in Jawi today? The hypocrites are now out in full force to exploit his resignation for political reasons!
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 4 2020, 09:23 AM)
Thats the problem with him. Nobody knew what he did or what he was doing even if he did anything.

When u do something, ppl need to know. If not, its the same as not doing.
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Plenty of people supported Maszlee even in /k. The majority just wanted to stay ignorant.
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Jan 4 2020, 02:18 PM)
maybe because hes the butt of jokes whenever anyone meets anyone?

when meet relatives from overseas: heyy our country compulsory teach coding already, you programmer right can teach my kid.
relative 2: waaah, really other country pushing tech to the young.
relative 3: walao a, why we all khat only.
all: *laughter and despair*

when meet with boss: last year(2018) i so happy got to meet with him, im gonna remove his photo with us on our website about us page.
all:*laughter*

now with 400k supporters millions will have new jokes now
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Plenty of people supported Maszlee even in /k. The majority just wanted to stay ignorant.
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Errrr I don't see the plenty part.
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Errrr I don't see the plenty part.
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QUOTE(razgriz_0087 @ Jan 4 2020, 10:19 AM)
If the shoes got smelly, do we need to put the blame on the policy. It’s on the parents who are not hygienic. As for the breakfast, it’s a good approach for kids. Having hood breakfast is good for them. The contract is another thing. Don’t mix good policy with poor governance. They need to improve governance as they said that they are transparent and whatnot. As a taxpayer, of course we want good governance and the benefit is return to the people.
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Why do we need to change from white shoe to black shoe then, if not to lessen the wash frequency? I dont think it is for fashion purpose.

Taking good care of children is the main responsibility of parents. Giving them good breaksfast is their responsibility as well. The only reason parents think its a good policy because it is "free". If government enforce payment from parents pocket, they will says bad policy instead.

There is a reason why firearm and weapon are not legalized here. They are good policy for self defense purpose, but people tends to missuse it. If you are in education line, you will be surprised many parents spends more time with phone, TV and computer than with their children.
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Why do we need to change from white shoe to black shoe then, if not to lessen the wash frequency? I dont think it is for fashion purpose.

Taking good care of children is the main responsibility of parents. Giving them good breaksfast is their responsibility as well. The only reason parents think its a good policy because it is "free". If government enforce payment from parents pocket, they will says bad policy instead.

There is a reason why firearm and weapon are not legalized here. They are good policy for self defense purpose, but people tends to missuse it. If you are in education line, you will be surprised many parents spends more time with phone, TV and computer than with their children.
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I remember there’s study found that charsiew parents raise more independent kids.
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Jan 4 2020, 02:18 PM)
maybe because hes the butt of jokes whenever anyone meets anyone?

when meet relatives from overseas: heyy our country compulsory teach coding already, you programmer right can teach my kid.
relative 2: waaah, really other country pushing tech to the young.
relative 3: walao a, why we all khat only.
all: *laughter and despair*

when meet with boss: last year(2018) i so happy got to meet with him, im gonna remove his photo with us on our website about us page.
all:*laughter*

now with 400k supporters millions will have new jokes now
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if we pay or have majority parent same level as SG, sure i will be mad with our progress...but we dont...most expect govt to chip in rather provide themselves...

next you need to remember, all these subject and chapter, does not come from minister or any politician. most come from academician and teaching related field based on data they have. they make the subject and propose to govt way to improve and help student. ministry at most can only foresee and try to get the allocation need. yes, you can bulldozed this academician and teaching related person to implement what you want...but remember they one you kick are not there by vote but from experience and study lead them to that point..so its a killer move to whoever made it.

another is we do have good subject based on what student can handle called Asas Sains Komputer (ASK) and Reka Bentuk dan Teknologi (RBT)...you can search at google this subject and view the textbook there...to me its a good first step already and now need to improve over time...

lastly MOE also involve in DIGITAL MAKER HUB by MDEC to bring 1 special room complete with 3D,PC and electronic for student to learn all payed by MDEC

https://www.mydigitalmaker.com/digital-make...tut6eAxBlOdBhTI

that is the things i follow until now...may not perfect tho....things do improve but people just focus on kasut hitam and jawi only rather looking at whole pic...nobody is perfect bro...but all this could go into drain if the incorrect minister come in and start change things...but who know...too early to tell...let us all see what fate await us
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the butthurted pipu lipoted 4 of my posts.
stobeli hati tisu.
geng dongkey zong bodo.
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Errrr..... That actually means pipu who says there are plenty of pipu supporting maszlee are just hearing their own echoes.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 4 2020, 09:30 AM)
Didn't read at all.

Delusional mother fucker at best.
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I read and it does change my mind a bit about Maszlee. Oh well...

Because I always believe Arul
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I remember there’s study found that charsiew parents raise more independent kids.
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Good luck to those parents, hopefully they wont regret when their children wants them to be independent and leaves them to old folks home.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Jan 4 2020, 03:16 PM)
Plenty of people supported Maszlee even in /k. The majority just wanted to stay ignorant.
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A little above you actually thought Maszlee only focuses on black shoe. I remember that dialogue was like >45min of him talking about his vision, plan for education system.

But nvm, Maszlee cares most about something he spoke in like 30sec, black shoes at the request of parents. Maszlee never cared about the rest, win liao lor.
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QUOTE(80ers @ Jan 4 2020, 03:02 PM)
If the justification of black shoe because of economic factor then they should have abolished school uniform altogether. All can wear freely, but with dress code (wear shoes, dress decently) just like in universities... That's how to ease the burden for parents, not by changing colour of shoes. That's what most western kids wearing to school too

When the education system needed a new direction, one the first thing he highlighted on was black shoe instead of stating his vision, mission and action plan. His first impression was destroyed because of that
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Western many bullies.

Imagine
poor go school wear pasar malam shirt.
Middle class wear uniqlo.
High class wear prada
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 4 2020, 05:03 AM)
Sorry but pretty sure that's what he meant on medan dakwah. Semenanjung has trying very hard to convert borneo and there has been effect. Talk to the non there and they will all agree. So maszlee with that statement is not surprising.  He can twist and turn how dakwah is interpreted but pretty sure that was intention in first place. If no religion agenda shouldn't even mention Islam in first place.

And no to the compulsory jawi. I meant he should discuss with stakeholders first before intro it.
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Up to you what you want to speculate. Pretty sure is not the same as sure sure, but some prefer to escalate rather than de-escalate. Secession rather than union. A round of Ops Lalang should suffice.

Again, he should just go through with the 3 pages. Dong Zong can bark all they want but at the end of the day, that’s all they can do: bark. Stripping of citizenship is still on the card if push comes to shove.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jan 5 2020, 07:58 AM)
Up to you what you want to speculate. Pretty sure is not the same as sure sure, but some prefer to escalate rather than de-escalate. Secession rather than union. A round of Ops Lalang should suffice.

Again, he should just go through with the 3 pages. Dong Zong can bark all they want but at the end of the day, that’s all they can do: bark. Stripping of citizenship is still on the card if push comes to shove.
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Awwww.... U threaten to strip citizenship if we don't follow the majority..... How cute. If u want to stop speculation, first stop by making threats like that..... or jihad or challenge ketuanan.

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Jan 4 2020, 11:22 PM)
Western many bullies.

Imagine
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Middle class wear uniqlo.
High class wear prada
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Same with Malaysia, anywhere have bullies in schools. rich & influenced people always bully weaker & poor people. Kids always compare their bag, stationeries, school shoe brand, school cloth brands etc anyway.

But if they really want to reduce parents & kids burden then free clothing with dress code the way to go, since most Maszlee defenders spin it as to help the parents for economic factor and kids for malas factor.

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 5 2020, 01:27 AM)
Awwww.... U threaten to strip citizenship if we don't follow the majority..... How cute. If u want to stop speculation, first stop by making threats like that..... or jihad or challenge ketuanan.
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No, it’s just a thing that can be done and have been done.

I’m a pragmatist. People can live believing that they can defy the majority and their voices are the ones that matter the most, but at the end of the day, the sky can come crashing down on them anytime.

So opposing smartly is better than the alternative.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Jan 5 2020, 08:27 AM)
Awwww.... U threaten to strip citizenship if we don't follow the majority..... How cute. If u want to stop speculation, first stop by making threats like that..... or jihad or challenge ketuanan.
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Welll....the problem was ur kebencian has already deep rooted in ur heart. So whatever we do, gone into escalation
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QUOTE(80ers @ Jan 5 2020, 08:33 AM)
Same with Malaysia, anywhere have bullies in schools. rich & influenced people always bully weaker & poor people. Kids always compare their bag, stationeries, school shoe brand, school cloth brands etc anyway.

But if they really want to reduce parents & kids burden then free clothing with dress code the way to go, since most Maszlee defenders spin it as to help the parents for economic factor and kids for malas factor.
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I agree on your first paragraph. Branding comparison is noticeable here in Malaysia...

Second paragraph will be long topic... Partially agree but will be wall of text to discuss further. :/ My concern was the poor kids personality due to above scenario (lack confidence, "tak apa since I have nothing to begin with" and more...)
It just involved multiple segment, parenting, teacher way of handle, case by case.

Perhaps Mazlee was too idealistic when implementing his stuff.
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Welll....the problem was ur kebencian has already deep rooted in ur heart. So whatever we do, gone into escalation
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Awww..... Everything LGE, dap, cina, China, trump etc. Boogeyman fault.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Jan 4 2020, 02:50 PM)
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useless minister.
never released any sort of strategic plan for his ministry as well .
so so many problems to solve, but all he seem to be able to do is to add more even more problems for his successor to resolve..

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Jan 5 2020, 12:19 PM)
I agree on your first paragraph. Branding comparison is noticeable here in Malaysia...

Second paragraph will be long topic... Partially agree but will be wall of text to discuss further. :/ My concern was the poor kids personality due to above scenario (lack confidence, "tak apa since I have nothing to begin with" and more...)
It just involved multiple segment, parenting, teacher way of handle, case by case.

Perhaps Mazlee was too idealistic when implementing his stuff.
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having a uniform is a way to mold the school student's mindset to one that does not ask too many questions of the government or authority.

you just become another cog in the machine. Same reason why the syllables includes many memorization tasks, but very little on problem solving and on critical thinking.

just take a look at the joke of Moral Studies.

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Even, Mahathir also detest him, mean he's really dumb!
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QUOTE(Redhunt @ Jan 5 2020, 07:04 PM)
having a uniform is a way to mold the school student's mindset to one that does not ask too many questions of the government or authority.

you just become another cog in the machine.  Same reason why the syllables includes many memorization tasks, but very little on problem solving and on critical thinking.

just take a look at the joke of Moral Studies.
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The practice of wearing school uniform has been adopted by many other countries, and is now common in many parts of the world. Uniforms can be regarded as promoting social equality among students and an esprit de corps, but have also been criticised for promoting a form of uniformity characteristic of militarism.


Depend how you see it, there is good and bad of it. Quoted was from wiki.
Again not that straightforward.
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Jan 5 2020, 08:03 PM)
Depend how you see it, there is good and bad of it. Quoted was from wiki.
Again not that straightforward.
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all the 'good' points refers to uniformity. A standard way of thought. Which all those in power wants to inoculate. Which is how got BN , till even now. ( lets not kid ourselves, Bersatu is pretty much another temporary version of UMNO)





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