1. The location seems to be deserted although it's slightly better than d Island.

2. There is no amenities within 5-10km other than tesco extra. Agent told me plenty of school nearby.

3. The actual unit size is sooo much different from showroom size.. I was told master bed room can put a queen size bed and fit wardrobe. But to my horror, after putting queen size bed, there is little to no space to walk in the room. Extremely small. The living room is super small as well. I bought the 972sq ft bt it doesn't feel at all like it. Plenty of ownerr complaint aldy..

4. Expensive maintenance fee at 0.35-0.37 bt facility wise is normal only. Auto gate is access using rfid bt the rfid not sensitive at all. Failed to scan most of the time.

I calculated. It is about 500++ psf for 216 Residence.

Are you buying for own stay or investment renting out?
developments around the area, such as 8th & Stellar, M Oscar and 1 UOA project which I forgotten the name..


If you are buying for investment and have that kind of budget, I suggest looking at studio units or something similar in Bangsar South.

ROI definitely faster and better due to larger expatriate and working crowd in Bangsar South.

Bangsar South, despite what you see with towering office towers and developments, they are still huge demand for good quality condos/studios.

The demand is there because a lot of office moved into Bangsar South for 3 reasons :-

(1) Connectivity - I know, you will say, what shit connectivity with the huge jams, but precisely, that is what makes the township tick. it bears KL address but yet not really in downtown KL, so slightly cheaper office rental rates.

(2) MSC Status Grade A offices - This is what separates them from a lot of other so called "Commercial" developments. Malaysia, despite the office glut, is still in severe shortage of good quality Grade A office. A lot of top MNC IT firms, FMCG Firms, Local IT Champion Firms, wants these kind of offices, and Bangsar South can fill that gap in demand.

(3) All-in-one self contained township - With the opening of Cengild, if you notice, the Bangsar South township is literally self sustaining township, which means expatriates working there need not travel out far to shop for necessities and healthcare. Even if needed, 2 atas class shopping mall in Bangsar is just a stone's throw away. and Mid valley is just 2-3 train stations away.

a good way to gauge if the proposed development is good or not, is to personally travel down to the surrounding area, have a feel and walk around the place, talk to nearby shop owners, see what is the population nearby, what kind of commercial activities that sustain the township etc etc, don't just blindly believe in what agents promised(although I myself am one lol ), a lot of them will sweet talk you with a lot of dollars and cents (cashback lah, ROI lah, future developments lah, some even quote developer's GDV of the project to boost confidence of their project's commitment) . But ultimately, the cheque book lies within your hand,so think carefully before you sign on the dotted line.

lolz.... i got a fren bought and renovating there....
seriously the master bedroom couldnt fit the wardrobe after putting the queen size bed?
Did you guys measure and check whether the sqft is it fully comply according to SPA?
otherwise , owners can file a suit to tribunal if the developer didnt do anything.

Sorry i am not interested to debate with you in this thread. If you really have the guts, don't attack me personally on this thread. You've already said - this is no kopitiam thread. I am here just to provide my 2 cents worth of opinions and provide value. Whether or not TS decides to listen/buy from me/whatever decision made is not my thing to bother and to force.


If you really want to debate, take me on on my Personal Facebook account, I willing wait for you to PM me. I will provide you with my Facebook account so that I can add you, and then you can take it on from there. You can even bash and shame me publicly on Facebook if you think i am speaking nonsense. I have no problem doing that. I debate with someone with real name and real person. Not someone who is a keyboard warrior.




This post has been edited by acgerlok7: Dec 30 2019, 04:14 PM

Bukit Puchong is still in its' infancy. Therefore, need to wait really long before you an see your returns. The fact is there is no strong commercial development or MNCs nearby, that's why the demand for rental is not strong in Bukit Puchong.

However, one way you can consider for this area is (I'm not sure if it can work for you ah, just suggesting)

(1) Rent it out to Confinement Centers (I have known someone who does that, and the unit is located in Bukit Puchong, Some very atas bungalow/semi-D.. i think the place is called Laman Bayu. ) They can fetch you good rental in this kind of market. And they will be long-term tenants. I don't think confinement centres will want to move out so soon after renting the place and investing so much. They are after all profit-oriented as well.

(2) Modified your unit to be Airbnb friendly. Charge tenants per room per night. Bungalows in areas in Bukit Puchong can be damn popular amongst city dwellers for team building usage, staycation, for their relative stayover pre-wedding etc etc.

(3) Rent it out to Kindergartens, Playhouse, Children Enrichment Centres ( this one not so encouraged) - Can be good for rental wise and return of ROI as well but this one maybe not so ideal cos it will be dirty in long-term. Too many children, then the place might be filled with children scratching the walls with colour pencils, crayons etc etc.

Do these 3 and then maybe you buy a new place in 216 or some place you consider good then move out.

Me and my partnw actually have a unit at Bangsar south, cubic botanical. Studio unit. Not sure if u heard bout it. Actual location is pantai dalam.. Now am looking for own stay due to have family soon.. Saville d lake not an ideal for us and cubic its too small.

Nobody attack you....and i certainly not wanting to fight you...pls learn to read before fight.....talk macam gangster ..

Calling you agent is attacking you??? That is your job. You should have declared yr position before recommend MS. I am not here to break people rice bowl. Been sincere and honest about yourself is the good 1st step.

What value you have provided to TS re miller square?? Unless you pm him direct, i dont read any "value"..

You are talking to someone that his entire world is about his friends and his boss.

I still dun see the relevancy abt his friends moving houses and his rich boss got anything to do with places here.

lol... some ppl have to be based on assumption before sharing something here ma... in his case is his frens le... just that his fren also seems misinformed about the condition there... the slowdown in between was due lack of new launches at the northern side after SP setia got taken over by the gov... til all the p17 p13 p14 etc keep blooming out every year... the heat of setia alam is back again... all affordable homes also kasi sapu habis... more geng than sell vege...

His friends and his ex boss all rich rich ones...
How to fairly represent the samples? Like icey cheh said, 4% of population nia.

Til now i still waiting for his 2 examples of bestest townships......i afraid i am getting older by the second for waiting.

Anywhere ppl that earned 5 digit monthly pay maybe busy at work and not as relax as you and me....

Wait loh.

This post has been edited by scarypoolparty: Dec 30 2019, 05:09 PM

i am referring to other project in setia alam, not SP setia.
SP Setia selling the landed with very affordable price, i can't see a success township need to lower the selling price to make their development can sell faster, the price is even lower than Elmina.
My friend selling the high rise building in setia alam, he is a marketing manager, he know how the buying power come so sudden, you can image for beginning they spent many money for marketing just only close a single digit unit sales.

after EW township complete partially, the investors can see the potential in future, then they start to purchase, maybe the HOC also helping them to push the sales.

if only that affordable landed, then only SP setia can sell, i visited their sales gallery before, the unit sold out not that fast.

Setia alam hard to make profit again, this township already reach their peak if without EW pump in.

yea... other than sp setia landed... the rest are high-rise there... still very tough to sell... the edusentral... the sunsuria forum... heck even trefoil which completed long time ago... but those EW buyers wont be affecting the buying power of other projects... its just a sudden shift in economical condition for the mass market population still flocking in there... they are the one who will influence the commercial vibrantness of the location... and like u say HOC could be one of the major factor for mass market buyers... not the EW buyers... EW township definitely have not much booster to setia alam frankly speaking and its just another luxury township with own commercials... but commercials also very limited to the lab area only... thats why i mentioned before setia alam north now getting more vibrant mainly due to all the new landed owners moving in batch by batch...

Try researching places around OUG, if you are looking for a bigger unit, there are still plenty of good secondary units condominiums and low-density apartments for good price in this area.

Bukit OUG Condominiums/ Union Heights Condo is something worth considering if you are looking for a cozy place which are family friendly.

TS didn't ask for my identity in the first place. I am just here to provide MY side of opinion. Did you even understand what i tried to say in the beginning? Did I hard sell Millerz Square?

Which part in the thread did you see me talking non-stop about Millerz features lah, benefits lah or future values lah.. I just happen to quote it alongside with some other projects which I think TS can consider.

Huh? Gangster??

Talk macam gangster?? Dude,you want to debate? I offered to take it with you one on one personally in a more private space? You instead of taking it up, now you accuse me of being gangster? Did I condemn or even curse at you? No right. My entire point is just to tell you to calm yourself down and be objective lah. It looks like you are attacking me personally just because I did not DECLARE myself as an agent. TS didn't even bother to ask about my identity, why are you so hard up about my true identity when you cowardly do not want to reveal yours.

Like i said again, if you really want to talk, let's take it to a more proper channel via social media lah. PM me privately lah then we talk from there. Don't use TS's thread here as you battleground.

I notice you had a lot of good points as well. Notice ya, in all my refute and rebuke against you, I never once quote what you said and blindly attack you. I acknowledge of my own shortcomings and also I still have a lot to learn as a new agent despite being passionate in the property development and property investing industry since I was 19. I just need you to stop rebuking all my points with such personal attacks. Cheers

This post has been edited by acgerlok7: Dec 30 2019, 11:42 PM

And also btw to directly PM and spam TS in regards to my own agency project, that is called vested interest and hard selling.

I hate people doing that to me, therefore, I won't do unto others what I hate others to do to me.

Thank u so so much for the suggestion

mat rempit breeding ground though. have seen mat lajak just few months back. too many flat d . free live performance at nkve at night

sunsuria forum and trefoil has been selling for years. and with setia city residence completing , high-rise probably oversupplied at the moment. no takers

This post has been edited by SongChiang: Dec 31 2019, 10:51 AM

yea... its not yet the time for high-rise there yet... while still have lands for landed all the way to the inside up north...

well you have low cost apartments inside... all these are unavoidable...

So you have
One property is not ideal for own stay
One property is too small for own stay

And you are looking for 3rd property at wrong places and hopefully good for own stay???

Thankfully you can afford to have 2 units and can afford to go for 3rd.

the future is bright here