Don't be so discouraged! It is always good to have due diligence process and screen thoroughly before making such big investment.

And also, you are consider lucky at least the first property didn't kill you off from this passion to learn and continue investing in real estate.

People make mistakes. So, don't feel uneasy at all to ask

In regards to your comments,

My suggestion is always this :-

(1) Look at the surrounding activities - Is the area you're investing near a bustling city/township or is a very quiet and sleepy town?

Bear in mind, developers can sell you many crazy dreams ie. the town will have biggest shopping mall in 10 years time lah, this place will be very Ong lah....all on FUTURE value that is yet to materialized. If you want more solid capital appreciation and lesser time needed for your exit strategy, better to buy matured area, although entry price will be higher. Because the crowd is already there, need not need a lot of "SEEDING" effect to "grow" that area, be it artificially(like Putrajaya/Cyberjaya) or Organically(Kota kemuning/Setia Alam back in 10 years ago).
With this in mind, I would suggest you should take a look at the 216 Residence that you've mention in Kuchai lama. If not , you also can shortlist a few more in the vicinity like Exsim's Millerz Sqaure mixed development project. Try to stay away from standalone township as they will need a long time for gestation period. So, you will wait donkey years to see your property achieve capital appreciation.

I personally know many friends who let go off their properties in KK Shah Alam due to unable to wait so long, only to curse and cry WTF when LKSA was completed because after that highway completed, the surrounding property shot up more than 200% ie. from 220k to now around 800k- 1million for DSL.

I need a comfortable place to stay and easier to sell out when needed. If embayu doesn't fulfil, I will jz skip it. Because I myself have wrongly purchase my first prop. Don wanna repeat same mistake.

Easier to sell out as in the area still have demand. Not those area like puchong South etc that is super hard to sell out

setia alam actually is not good, just recently EW come back, then this area start hot again.
Kota kemuning use longer time to develop, and the rental return is not that good, now many peoples want to move to the canal city due to the nice environment, i have few friends already planning to move out from KK to Canal city, they bought a super link or  Semi D in Canal city, and their neighbor many also ex KK residents.

obviously buying high-rise/ sg buloh will be having the same mistake as your first property purchase... its the same... ppl wanna buy high-rise for convenience closer to the city... why they will represent a attractive proposition to subsales buyers if its not close to city...? think reasonably on this... I'm sure its easy for u to get an answer if u kena from puchong south before...

for me... personally i will vote for Bliss residence... low density project always good proposition to stay in for me... and its nearer to KTM plus in between KL and PJ... go sunway 10 mins only during weekend...

Don't be so discouraged! It is always good to have due diligence process and screen thoroughly before making such big investment.

And also, you are consider lucky at least the first property didn't kill you off from this passion to learn and continue investing in real estate.

People make mistakes. So, don't feel uneasy at all to ask

In regards to your comments,

My suggestion is always this :-

(1) Look at the surrounding activities - Is the area you're investing near a bustling city/township or is a very quiet and sleepy town?

Bear in mind, developers can sell you many crazy dreams ie. the town will have biggest shopping mall in 10 years time lah, this place will be very Ong lah....all on FUTURE value that is yet to materialized. If you want more solid capital appreciation and lesser time needed for your exit strategy, better to buy matured area, although entry price will be higher. Because the crowd is already there, need not need a lot of "SEEDING" effect to "grow" that area, be it artificially(like Putrajaya/Cyberjaya) or Organically(Kota kemuning/Setia Alam back in 10 years ago).
With this in mind, I would suggest you should take a look at the 216 Residence that you've mention in Kuchai lama. If not , you also can shortlist a few more in the vicinity like Exsim's Millerz Sqaure mixed development project. Try to stay away from standalone township as they will need a long time for gestation period. So, you will wait donkey years to see your property achieve capital appreciation.

I personally know many friends who let go off their properties in KK Shah Alam due to unable to wait so long, only to curse and cry WTF when LKSA was completed because after that highway completed, the surrounding property shot up more than 200% ie. from 220k to now around 800k- 1million for DSL.

people moved to greener pestures, doesn't mean the old township is not good. 6 months after 'your friends' moved in and please do a proper interview with them and ask them if they do have any regret.

years later your friends might moved from Kuala Langat to Banting or carey islands

even setia alam, at least 50% of residents there were from klang. there is no surprises. family extension, wealthy enough to move to newer and more secured places....and etc.

EW back to Setia Alam and SA hot again? hello, what smokes are you having my friend? can share some? what is the min entry price for a home in EA? are they catered for public general? all the sold out P17 homes in SA by Sp setia count for nothing? the long traffic jam at toll is due to EW?

can you quote me at least two examples of your perfect townships?

Thank u for advice and encouragement. My first prop was in bukit puchong. Saville D Lake. Biggest mistake I made in my life... Now that prop stucked there.. Thats why my 2nd prop I need to be more careful and ask more opinion from knowledgeable others..

Will have a look into 216 Residences again. Besides that, do you think the purchase price is expensive?

835 sq ft 2b2r
1 cp
425k

834sq ft 3r2b
2 Cp tandem
480k

Didn't look at bliss aldy cause the site is at the end of the road.. Might reconsider 216 residence

After your failure investment in cheras, you canged the ID ,uncle bean.

You always complaining other project, but your failure investment, you keep  silence.

You made a money in setia alam, just because you bought before bull run.
The limitation of setia alam exist, caused jam, many peoples bought it just because of the low entry price before with a shopping mall. But after that, the demand slow down and untik recently EW come back, the new investment start hot again. My friend was trying hard to sell the setia alam project last year, this year only start better due to people can see the EW progress in this area.

Today saujana putra also heavy traffic during working hours, it is called success township based on your theory? The canal city is part of the contribution to saujana putra traffic jam.

setia alam actually is not good, just recently EW come back, then this area start hot again.

Hi all,

Today I went to see a few project below 500k. The project are

1. Embayu Residence @ Sungai Buloh
2. BLISS @ OKR
3. 216Residence @ Kuchai Lama.

Among the 3 project I see, embayu residence give me the feel at home kinda feeling. But I am not sure what's the future for property in sungai buloh especially high rise.

Embayu residence is located opposite nadayu 801. The project is also surrounded by landed double story houses + few shoplot there with mamak and 2 Chinese kopitiam jz to list a few.

I like the size offered by the project (1000sq ft), 2 car park and also the price jst ngam for me. The place is also quiet with not many traffic. However the only thing holding me back from placing booking is the area.

Will there be space for appreciation since not much public transport and amenities? Dash highway is expected to complete next year.

If I would to sell in the coming 5-10 yrs time, will it hard to let go? Is there any demand for the area?

If I I'm want to rent out the property,  is there any demand for rental there?

Thank u for advice and encouragement. My first prop was in bukit puchong. Saville D Lake. Biggest mistake I made in my life... Now that prop stucked there.. Thats why my 2nd prop I need to be more careful and ask more opinion from knowledgeable others..

Will have a look into 216 Residences again. Besides that, do you think the purchase price is expensive?

835 sq ft 2b2r
1 cp
425k

834sq ft 3r2b
2 Cp tandem
480k

Didn't look at bliss aldy cause the site is at the end of the road.. Might reconsider 216 residence

to be fair those SP setia northern phases that selling affordable landed for everybody is the one that make it hot again... not EW... EA min per unit also 1.2m and above... hardly have enough population to make it hot also given the number of units in offer... the northern setia alam getting more vibrant and more population due to those affordable landed and now causing more jam... but generally NKVE itself not enough to sustain the traffic these days all the way from klang... even setia alam solve their own traffic problem... the jam at SA toll still unavoidable due to NKVE jam itself...

why Saville D Lake is so wrong for your purchase? Mind to have a few words to share?
216 is kind good... although it is located at a busy town. But that area itself is peaceful enough for me.
Otherwise, You can consider HIPSTER @ Taman desa facing the Indah water Pool (No smell)
That NKVE itself is very jam due to the growing population in setia Alam, further down to Bukit Raja. Jam may be due to many factors like lorries using the highway and that highway has sharp slope that lorries will take times to crawl and causing traffic slow down.
Try to imagine the road without lorries, it is pretty smooth even thoiugh with many cars

Please be fair and more accurate when recommend or quoting past examples.

I noticed you have quoted Miller Squarez twice already. You are either the agent or one investor that sunk your money into it and now want other bodies to join you. I don't even see Miller Squuare pricing is even close to be reasonable and you are recommend this to a newbie in property investment?

also, you quoting KK purchase price of 220k. to get a dsl in KK for 220kk it would have to be in 1997/98 (I would bet 220k would be the 1st  phase in 1997). even for subsequent phases, at the height of property boom of 2010 to 2012, intermediate dsl never went above 800k. few years ago, the average was 750k, some as low as 700k. so to say now it valued even higher than property booming period is really sometimes else.

also please improve your math as well. bought 220k and now around 800k to 1mil is not 'more than 200%'. its just like now when you are 40 years old and when someone asks you how old you are, you said 'over 21 years old'. technically not wrong but its righty acceptable?

during peak hours mainly due to populations... lorries can only drive on NKVE after certain hours... haha... peak hours they have to stop or else get saman... but still... more developments coming down the north... so NKVE definitely cannot tahan liao... and some new highways will also make more traffic flow to NKVE as well...

Lorry drivers where got care about those rules n regulation?

Please don't simply assume or accuse...I am an agent but i don't exclusively sell Exsim's project, there are many other projects and I don't tie myself down or simply recommend someone something just because I want the commission.

By the way, I just calculated, even if based on your KK current price of 750k, 750k divided by 220k is almost 340%. So, Not right for me to say more than 200%? can u then please explain to me with your figures and facts, i would like to learn.

And also, my onus is to provide my insight only, whether TS buys whichever project, is not up to me to force or decide. So, stop bashing me just because you think you are right. I feel you are taking my opinions here so personally.

Chill man bro!     

end of the road got apa pantang ka? haha... 216 leasehold and i feel the show unit very not sincere... location wise not bad... but thats about it

Why u feel not sincere? Is it because they only make show room for living room and one of the bedroom only? Not tally with the layout they present