Cat your karib is byke
Sure you can relate

ini i can relate in all 3 position LOL

so all 3 oso u?

Cat your karib is byke
Sure you can relate

Is cat pulling the group?

i started on entry level alu bike + sora (7 or 8 speed cant remember). wrong frame size, too big jibai.
second bike carbon frame but not so big brand + ultegra. still wrong size.
third n current bike, sworks + dura ace. perfection.

what i can say about the groupsets, that old ultegra was the best. buttery smooth shifting. coz the cables from the shifters were external. no tight bends. the DA was the first gen of internal cable routing like campagnolo. not as smooth to shift. and upgrading to 10s allowed smaller ratio gap. that syok. sora less cogs, bigger ratio gap. group ride tak syok.

about the frame, that alu bike harsh ride la. try long distance on a harsh ride. i tukar carbon, it absorbed road buzz. better comfort, so can ride longer distance less pain.

china frame, dont generalize la. got many grades punya. he thinks semua manufacturers/brands have the same manufacturing processes and product quality control?

tell u something la. a coupla days back i borak dgn my friend. lets just say he got repair or do maintenance or install stuff for various people on various bikes. he say, some cheapo brands punya frame, the bb so longgar he could push in the bb without using tools. so... can do that on sworks?

May I ask how you bought the wrong frames?
Was it because you bought online and not in physical shop?
Or perhaps the shop sales staff wrongly recommended the frame size?

1st one, i noob la. didnt know anything. go buy oso sorang2. friend of a friend rekemen. bought used, seller said okay can use.
2nd one, bought used oso. i tot korek size. my height was between sizes. should be korek la. lesson learned, when it comes to roadbike, if u between sizes, go small.
learn from mistakes.

OK! Noted on the bolded. 
Seriously, I also didn't know about this tip. 

So for the S-Works frameset, you went to a Specialized shop and got proper advice from the shop staff?

yes fam! jom milan!

So where are we riding this weekend

dah cakap dy..... this weekend tak kayuh

Gemuk

janji beli ceramic speed install on sora and insta can hashtag #ceramicspeed

carbo loading for next weekend

Ko ini 26kph saja nak carbo loading so much buat apa

so apa conclusion? he insaf tak?

Tarak, he pm tepi other people to complain saibabully.
He said better use his time to train rather than waste time trolling like us.

#weeklyftptestandpmpeopleasknonsenseisnotwasteoftime