QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 10:30 AM)
NahCycling V37: Road bikes - Recreational/Racing, Average speed 30km/h is so 1786
Cycling V37: Road bikes - Recreational/Racing, Average speed 30km/h is so 1786
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Jun 24 2020, 10:31 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 10:32 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 10:34 AM
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bestnye. teringin nak pakai wheel 80mm
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Jun 24 2020, 10:39 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 10:33 AM) QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 09:02 AM) to improve and get faster in cycling, what is the most important thing to upgrade first? (jangan cakap u punya kaki) sudah. so apa full stori?put a number on the below stuff from 1-7, 1 being most important. original setup is china alloy bike with sora groupset -groupset - 1 -frame - 2 -power meter - 3 -ceramic pulley - 4 -tt bar - i doubt ini jenis solo rider. if go group ride, dont bring ur tt bar bike. join du or trifag tered -88mm ws - 5 -do weekly ftp test - tak tau apa ni This post has been edited by miaopurr: Jun 24 2020, 10:43 AM |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:42 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(benbeaninc @ Jun 24 2020, 08:09 AM) If u dun change gears AT ALL.. Then gears dun matter... Maybe the weight will as 11 speed is lighter then 10 is lighter than 9... that questions are referring to ahpingko who once made such statement that the 105 and cf bike aint much difference from his cheap camp bike. so........ but he does claim he is making more than 200w at home. Depending on wat u use the bike for to determine the difference.. if u only use the bike to meet fren who is 500m away or just to buy things from mart n back... Cheap bike n cf won really make a diff anyways... Gaya saja There are also cheap cf bike... It works but power transfer maybe bad... Cheap alloy bike if u make it look good, ppl also will steal... |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 24 2020, 10:41 AM) -groupset - 1 see, most normal cyclist would think like u. groupset then frame 1st.-frame - 2 -power meter - 3 -ceramic pulley - 4 -tt bar - i doubt ini jenis solo rider. if go group ride, dont bring ur tt bar bike. join du or trifag tered -88mm ws - 5 -do weekly ftp test - tak tau apa ni but tht fellow diff, he beli 88mm ws, then beli PM, then keep tanya how to improve, how to save watts, etc while saying frame and GS is useless and wont do much. also wan to add ceramic pulley to a sora gs thinking it gonna make him faster. weekly ftp test also x tau apa tu but he do it weekly n post on insta |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:46 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 10:51 AM
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Jun 24 2020, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 10:46 AM) see, most normal cyclist would think like u. groupset then frame 1st. im not saying beli PM first is a wrong decision.but tht fellow diff, he beli 88mm ws, then beli PM, then keep tanya how to improve, how to save watts, etc while saying frame and GS is useless and wont do much. also wan to add ceramic pulley to a sora gs thinking it gonna make him faster. weekly ftp test also x tau apa tu but he do it weekly n post on insta PM if used correctly can be an effective tool to improve. that should be the first thing la. nak buat satu benda dgn betul, kena ada tools dulu kan? altho i dont use PM, i know others who have improved significantly using PM so they could train the right way. |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 24 2020, 10:51 AM) im not saying beli PM first is a wrong decision. correct, diff is those people know how to effectively train using PM to improve.PM if used correctly can be an effective tool to improve. that should be the first thing la. nak buat satu benda dgn betul, kena ada tools dulu kan? altho i dont use PM, i know others who have improved significantly using PM so they could train the right way. meanwhile, certain people use it to see number at the end of ride jer and it spark joys to him (dunno apa ketahian) |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 10:46 AM) see, most normal cyclist would think like u. groupset then frame 1st. i suggest groupset and frame first coz those things can boost motivation to go out n ride more.but tht fellow diff, he beli 88mm ws, then beli PM, then keep tanya how to improve, how to save watts, etc while saying frame and GS is useless and wont do much. also wan to add ceramic pulley to a sora gs thinking it gonna make him faster. weekly ftp test also x tau apa tu but he do it weekly n post on insta siapa tak seronok dapat barang baru kan? sora pulley use sleeve aje. ceramic pulley ok la, since got ball bearing. but personally i'd use je the sora pulleys until rosak then only get new ones. might as well get ceramic pulleys. price oso not crazy like ceramic speed. altho i wouldnt get those ahbeng alloy merah colour. get normal black one. srs i dunno apa itu ftp test so i wont comment on that at the end of the day, nak improve, get on ur bike n ride. ride more. ride further. ride faster. This post has been edited by miaopurr: Jun 24 2020, 10:57 AM |
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Jun 24 2020, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 24 2020, 10:55 AM) i suggest groupset and frame first coz those things can boost motivation to go out n ride more. u can c more gain from better groupset n frame due to smoother shifting, lighter weight, more aero position etcsiapa tak seronok dapat barang baru kan? sora pulley use sleeve aje. ceramic pulley ok la, since got ball bearing. but personally i'd use je the sora pulleys until rosak then only get new ones. might as well get ceramic pulleys. price oso not crazy like ceramic speed. altho i wouldnt get those ahbeng alloy merah colour. get normal black one. srs i dunno apa itu ftp test so i wont comment on that but 88mm and a PM? |
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Jun 24 2020, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 10:58 AM) u can c more gain from better groupset n frame due to smoother shifting, lighter weight, more aero position etc smoother shifting - u dont shift continously. i dont see how smoother shifting can improve my speedbut 88mm and a PM? lighter weight - ok la ini i oso dunno if ada boost performance or not. maybe if ride solo long distance can feel kot? or beza in kilograms? i dropped 600gram when i changed bike, didn't really feel much diff. aero position - same type of bike, how to get more aero position? unless go bikefitting n slam that stem la |
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Jun 24 2020, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 24 2020, 11:05 AM) smoother shifting - u dont shift continously. i dont see how smoother shifting can improve my speed should say as in the bike overall more stiff n light? lighter weight - ok la ini i oso dunno if ada boost performance or not. maybe if ride solo long distance can feel kot? or beza in kilograms? i dropped 600gram when i changed bike, didn't really feel much diff. aero position - same type of bike, how to get more aero position? unless go bikefitting n slam that stem la anyway, no wrong buying 88mm or PM. but dun la ignorant like saying china frame same as s-works jer, so why waste money buy s-works? or sora gs and dura ace same jer so why wanna upgrade to dura ace, use sora jer la |
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Jun 24 2020, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 24 2020, 11:08 AM) should say as in the bike overall more stiff n light? dura ace can spin faster than sora?anyway, no wrong buying 88mm or PM. but dun la ignorant like saying china frame same as s-works jer, so why waste money buy s-works? or sora gs and dura ace same jer so why wanna upgrade to dura ace, use sora jer la |
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