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vater
post Dec 26 2019, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(keny2020j @ Dec 26 2019, 03:39 PM)
my opinion

1. won't termination of critical allowance for OT allow hospital to hire more people?

2. oversupply of Quota doctor and undersupply of Performance doctor

3. definitely no, no caffeine will be enough to fix overwork performance drop
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1. It's the creation of the post. From my understanding, to hire more people, they would first have to create more "penjawatan". Which itself is a long beaurocratic process.

2. I doubt the oversupply issue. I've been to government hospitals and the beds in the medical ward was... rclxub.gif
- Its basically sumbat bed where you can sumbat. Till the walkway pun ada.

3. This is true.
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post Dec 26 2019, 10:43 PM

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post Dec 26 2019, 10:50 PM

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Budget for allowance takde. Budget for tangkap rokok ada, konon will be earning for government. That’s the crap happens when you put chinaman businessman in charge of finance
shahrul09
post Dec 26 2019, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(vater @ Dec 26 2019, 10:38 PM)
This is really agree. From my personal general observation, Malaysians are generally a pampered bunch... taken healthcare for granted.
e.g. I've known friends and relatives who goes for clinic follow-up and all and take the medications...but...langsung tak makan. Hundreds of RM goes down the drain. Katanya too much chemical in the body is not good  rclxub.gif
And as a consequence, developed a complication due to the non-compliance, requiring further treatment (which obviously incur a higher cost to the government budget as a whole).
But...nak cuba all the pelik2 traditional medications...sanggup pulak beratus-ratus duit keluar  doh.gif

So... see where our money are leaking to?

Hence I always say, any change really have to start from the people.
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Orang malaysia pelik, benda murah dengan free dia ambil mudah. Lately after they got ubat in pharmacy without subsidies price label only some patients said wah mahal ubat need to eat. But some still degil and ambil mudah. Ungrateful.

When they need to keluar own poket money only they will bising2 and hargai it.

Foreigner pt lagi hargai gov hosp and services eventhou they need to pay mahal. Keeep appt in check, take vaccine.
Msian? Siap got antivaxx, power.



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post Dec 26 2019, 11:02 PM

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Seriously I don’t see PH coming back from this. RIP GE15
shahrul09
post Dec 26 2019, 11:14 PM

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Saw group discussion that the new coming intake of jr doctor next year plan to protest and defer from roll in the first intake of the job.
Mampus la existing Ho in hosp and MO kena tanggung workloads. No new Ho to fill in the gap left by Ho yg dah habis. uhhh this is exciting!
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post Dec 26 2019, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Dec 26 2019, 11:14 PM)
Saw group discussion that the new coming intake of jr doctor next year plan to protest and defer from roll in the first intake of the job.
Mampus la existing Ho in hosp and MO kena tanggung workloads. No new Ho to fill in the gap left by Ho yg dah habis. uhhh this is exciting!
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Pity the doctors and other healthcare providers now. Kena milked kaw2. Work long hours, lone ranger, away from family, not enough rest, bad infrastructure in district

While our minister can even complain "the aircond is too cold"


Good God.
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post Dec 26 2019, 11:22 PM

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post Dec 27 2019, 12:00 AM

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ala...that amount is too little for a doctor to realise.
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post Dec 27 2019, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Dec 26 2019, 10:31 PM)
Entah. Boleh naikkan ni, tak pun 1% total cost. Tp
instead potong elaun new doctor and health workers. Tu pun nasib tak bodoh kacau senior doctors and senior health workers punya elaun. Can only Kacau new kids without power yet.
Kata sudah tak kritikal cut semua la, so takut.

I can forsee health sector in few years they will do mogok.
Let see what happen when Hosp shutdown for a day.
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Illegal to mogok..... healthcare is considered "essential services" and by law banned from mogok....

Isn't that ironical.... essential services but no more critical allowance....
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post Dec 27 2019, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 27 2019, 07:27 AM)
Illegal to mogok..... healthcare is considered "essential services" and by law banned from mogok....

Isn't that ironical.... essential services but no more critical allowance....
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I thought it was “critical” in the sense that there was a shortage of doctors which is no longer the case.

This post has been edited by kkboy: Dec 27 2019, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(xpole @ Dec 26 2019, 08:55 PM)
Gov should increase the charge to the public that wants to get access to public healthcare.

It's time for us to stop the RM1 thing. Bila bagi offer murah, itu yang ramai yang lemak sangat nak melenjan benefit kerajaan.

And doesn't encourage the public to take care of their own health because of the cheap access to healthcare

Just my irrelevant opinion on this
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Es...totally agreed..
Increase it to rm25....


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post Dec 27 2019, 07:32 AM

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PH wont u turn on this. The waiting list for housemanship is longer than rolex waiting list. PH will get away. Plenty of young medical grads will even work for free to secure their registration.
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post Dec 27 2019, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(kkboy @ Dec 27 2019, 07:28 AM)
I thought it was “critical” in the sense that there was a shortage of doctors which is no longer the case.
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Correct. ....but if you have read the comments earlier....the glut is based on established posts available... It's full....

But from the point of service delivery, the numbers can and should be increased to improve services....and to relieve overworked doctors. ...but will cost money to employ, which gov have no money.....
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post Dec 27 2019, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(vater @ Dec 26 2019, 10:41 PM)
1. It's the creation of the post. From my understanding, to hire more people, they would first have to create more "penjawatan". Which itself is a long beaurocratic process.

2. I doubt the oversupply issue. I've been to government hospitals and the beds in the medical ward was...  rclxub.gif
- Its basically sumbat bed where you can sumbat. Till the walkway pun ada.

3. This is true.
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post Dec 27 2019, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 27 2019, 07:27 AM)
Illegal to mogok..... healthcare is considered "essential services" and by law banned from mogok....

Isn't that ironical.... essential services but no more critical allowance....
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Meh probably not anytime soon, but might happen in few years.
Yeah the irony, cant brain the logic in the decision.
Terminate it with reason it no longer critical job, no longer need that much. Okay acceptable reasons, so terminate the whole elaun as total la. Why just the new one, this aint one time payment thing..
dont have ball to cut from everyone that still and already got it ka. Haha takut mogok la ni.

This post has been edited by shahrul09: Dec 27 2019, 07:42 AM
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post Dec 27 2019, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(keny2020j @ Dec 26 2019, 03:39 PM)
my opinion

1. won't termination of critical allowance for OT allow hospital to hire more people?

2. oversupply of Quota doctor and undersupply of Performance doctor

3. definitely no, no caffeine will be enough to fix overwork performance drop
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Your opinion no 2 is shit. 2020 in few days still got people belief doctor got quota. Never been to gomen hospital is it? Performance my ass, sendiri racist.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Dec 27 2019, 07:53 AM)
Your opinion no 2 is shit. 2020 in few days still got people belief doctor got quota. Never been to gomen hospital is it? Performance my ass, sendiri racist.
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There is an invisible quota system in ipta selection....but that's a different issue....

Non performance of junior is quite evenly distributed between ipta and ipts, and between local Vs foreign grads.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 27 2019, 08:44 AM
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post Dec 27 2019, 08:54 AM

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extracted from FB:

1. dun think gov will retract the decision since the decision made by committee chaired by Tun M himself

2. the TV3 also aired the statement by JPA mentioned that "the allowance is not permanent, not compulsory, and gov can take back anytime they want". remind me of TH's hibah.

3. someone posted on FB that there will be 10k health care worker will be hired, thus gov need to stop giving allowance to cover that 10k expenses.

4. just give that RM750 back la. can help them pay for H car ok? malu la keje dr tapi balik kampung bawak proton.

This post has been edited by WinkyJr: Dec 27 2019, 08:55 AM
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