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post Dec 17 2019, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 17 2019, 08:58 PM)
Ya but still, playing like a bb still better Malaysian first 22 combined. But you get the drift.
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sanwaltz
post Dec 17 2019, 09:17 PM

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i see many tepuk tangan ...

tak insap2 lagi ke
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Dec 17 2019, 06:38 PM)
As far as i know muslims are prohibited to touch a dog. They need to wash their hand with some special water if really touch one..but...

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He is renowned muslims and very religious ????
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lol. nope
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:25 PM

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Cukur kapir ktard alim ugama Islam.
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:29 PM

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Saw many Muslims with dogs - not in Malaysia. No problem.
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:45 PM

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This is "Muslim can/cannot touch dog" tered number God knows what edy...Dah2 la tu, don't become 9gag, every week/month take turns posting the same sh*t over and over again...

This post has been edited by killerjeya: Dec 17 2019, 09:46 PM
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:47 PM

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isu bijan lagi sensitif, berapa topik dah 2 hari ni
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Dec 17 2019, 08:10 PM)
Greeks and Romans did have soap and used it as early as 1st century AD

Soap comes from the GREEK word sapon, which is used today in the process known as saponification

Romans also rinsed with water and oil, which is also effective, but adopted soap during the Imperial Roman period after effectively conquering the Greeks

Likely the Arab use of sand is due to general lack of water in near-desert areas
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Of course they use soap. Actually the romans adopted them from the conquered gallic/germanic tribes, not greeks.

The bedouins live near deserts. They were not muslims during the prophet's time. The Arabs live in cities/towns where there are water sources. The process of sertu or cleasing is by using water where 1 out of 7 times is water mix with soil.

Arabs never uses sands for cleansing. On the event there are no water, dust can be use for tayammum before prayer. Not related to dogs and sertu.
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(killerjeya @ Dec 17 2019, 09:45 PM)
This is "Muslim can/cannot touch dog" tered number God knows what edy...Dah2 la tu, don't become 9gag, every week/month take turns posting the same sh*t over and over again...
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tambah satu lagi faveret is tered tapai alkohol haram ke tak
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Dec 17 2019, 08:27 PM)
So nobody really knows whether this is just the normal practice because of conditions back then, but is no longer relevant today?

So what is it? Religion? Culture? Best practice back then, but no longer applicable today?

Human beings make up a lot of rules over time. It is not clear what is supposed to be religion vs what human being made up.
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Clean and unpolluted soil is safe from germs and most germs cannot survive in soil. The reason soil is so protective is very tiny living things that exist in soil are deadly enemies of harmful germs.

I'm not a scientist. Maybe someone familiar with the stuff can explain more.

The reason for the practice back then was to remove germs. That's why even the greeks and romans uses soil in their bath too.

If there are modern alternatives then by all means do it.
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Mondello @ Dec 17 2019, 08:04 PM)
Only apply to the poor

The rich dun even care much
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only apply to those who care la, after all it is between you and God for this sin.


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post Dec 17 2019, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Dec 17 2019, 07:45 PM)

Maybe the instruction to add soil into water was better than any available method to nullify any germs that comes with dog's saliva?

Wallahualam.
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No need to find reason other than God commanded it.
If you layan these ktards, u will end up sinning due to questioning Islamic ways.
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:08 PM

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I actually don't know now, I always thought Muslims are prohibited to touch dogs... I brought my dog to a vet in Kota Damansara, one of the vet assistant is a Muslim woman with tudung who has no qualms touching more than 10 dogs in one day

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post Dec 17 2019, 10:10 PM

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dont tipu

i read newspaper some samaritans muslim feeding stray dogs

u jgn fitnah
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Dec 17 2019, 10:02 PM)
Clean and unpolluted soil is safe from germs and most germs cannot survive in soil. The reason soil is so protective is very tiny living things that exist in soil are deadly enemies of harmful germs.

I'm not a scientist. Maybe someone familiar with the stuff can explain more.

The reason for the practice back then was to remove germs. That's why even the greeks and romans uses soil in their bath too.

If there are modern alternatives then by all means do it.
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Soil is full of germs - trust me.

But let's say soil is protective. But nowadays, we have all sorts of medication that are far better.

So, "don't touch dog", and "use soil" are not longer relevant.

So, it is religion? or just practice back then which is no longer relevant to today's world?

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post Dec 17 2019, 10:18 PM

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my muslim fren nearly cried when she got approached by a dog...
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:30 PM

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post Dec 17 2019, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(bangaubagus @ Dec 17 2019, 10:04 PM)
only apply to those who care la, after all it is between you and God for this sin.
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the poor if do will kena kecam....the rich do no ppl dare to say anything
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post Dec 17 2019, 11:08 PM

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Dogs are cool.
Considered special kind of dirty in islam, but never prohibit interaction with it.
Just need to cuci if got interaction and some DUMB n confusing rule kenot keep as pet.

Everything bout dogs n pigs is just confusing af in islam.
Got some say like dis, some say like dat.
Even the cuci name oso not rly known which one lol. Sertu or samak.

Donno y some muslim so anti dogs until kecam all ppl dat have interaction with dogs, even just a lil bit.
Even vet doktot oso kena in mesia. Bodo gila.

This post has been edited by bukankhadam: Dec 17 2019, 11:13 PM
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post Dec 17 2019, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Dec 17 2019, 06:38 PM)
As far as i know muslims are prohibited to touch a dog. They need to wash their hand with some special water if really touch one..but...

user posted image

He is renowned muslims and very religious ????
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Who say cannot touch?

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