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post Oct 21 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Oct 21 2022, 11:59 AM)
agreed it's better to take the article with pinch of salt. I'm sharing coz figured better to get feedback from owners. I'm still not one and I'm still keeping my options option.

Gotham Knights.. will just be locked at 30fps.. rumoured to also be due to XSS..

XSS had slightly less powerful hardware, unlike PS5 where digital version is the same, just without disc player.

if all games can run on XSS, makes it hard case selling XSX..?

honestly since games are all backwards compatible, why did MS come up with Series S anyway? can just sell previous gen hardware, or just do what Sony is rumoured to be doing, just go with "external" disc drive.
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Gotham knights is just badly optimised. The digital foundry review of the game just straight up compares it to Arkham Knight which came out so long ago but still looks better? You cant blame the XSS for that.

You can play the same games on XSS and XSX for one very simple reason. MS doesn't care if people buy more xsx or xss as long as they are on Gamepass and Gamepass is where all the value is. MS is not a hardware company, they sell services. If they only allowed MS officce to work on Windows PCs, their installed user base would be so much lower. Instead it runs on Macs, browsers, mobile phones - everyone uses it Their plan for gamepass is very similar, play on console, pc and mobile. The difference between XSS and XSX just depends on whether you care for 120hz 4k and all the other bells and whistles. For a lot of people that doesnt matter if they can get a good experience with the game. And gamepass does provide great experiences - for a lower hardware entry price.

I'd be cursing if gamepass was just xboxlive gold with more free games but the value is so much better. Compared with PS which seems stuck in the last generation model demanding a royalty off every USD70 game they sell, gamepass just seems to make more financial sense.

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post Oct 21 2022, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Oct 21 2022, 11:59 AM)
agreed it's better to take the article with pinch of salt. I'm sharing coz figured better to get feedback from owners. I'm still not one and I'm still keeping my options option.

Gotham Knights.. will just be locked at 30fps.. rumoured to also be due to XSS..

XSS had slightly less powerful hardware, unlike PS5 where digital version is the same, just without disc player.

if all games can run on XSS, makes it hard case selling XSX..?

honestly since games are all backwards compatible, why did MS come up with Series S anyway? can just sell previous gen hardware, or just do what Sony is rumoured to be doing, just go with "external" disc drive.
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Gotham Knights performing badly shouldn't be blamed on Series S. Arkham Knight was released on base Xbox One in 2015, and it looks better than Gotham Knights, runs better, and also ran on an older version of Unreal. I can't agree on the Series S example would make it hard to sell Series X.

I still will point back to how PC scene is. By that logic, if an RTX3060 can also run the latest games, will it be hard to sell an RTX3090? Same with how there are many TVs to choose from. If an RM2000 TV can still be used to play PS5, won't it be hard to sell an LG OLED?

There's nothing wrong with offering options to consumers. If people stopped buying the Series S altogether, I believe Microsoft would eventually discontinue it and maybe come up with a new SKU. Let the market decide, rather than leaving it to publishers. Remember the PSP Go? It was so badly received that its shelf life was cut short prematurely.


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post Oct 22 2022, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Oct 18 2022, 08:37 AM)
It really depends on what games you prefer. You already mentioned you play God of War, so a PS5 would probably still be the best for you. GTA and Call of Duty can be played on either console, so it doesn't really matter. For the racing game, again, depends on what game you prefer. Xbox of course has Forza Horizon and the upcoming Forza Motorsport. And there are so many racing games from third parties like Codemasters and EA. In the end it all comes down to which console has the games you want.

I am very happy with Xbox, since we have Gamepass on it. New third party games are added all the time, and first party games land on Gamepass day one. And stays on Gamepass. That's my reason for choosing Xbox this gen. If I can just get my hands on a PS5, I would buy it too. But I'm plenty happy with Xbox already.
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I'm thinking should I get the XBOX series S instead. Bcz cheaper
If I get the series X, the price I can get PS5 too
What I more concern is the games I prefer to play
And also the remote controller on PS5 that has the haptic feedback that give u better experience
Not sure about Xbox remote controller
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post Oct 24 2022, 04:03 PM

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Anyone using any wireless headsets for your Xbox series x? Find it hard to game at night and needing to reduce the volume (family sleeping)

I'm thinking the xbox wireless headset vs arctis 7x

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post Oct 25 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2022, 04:03 PM)
Anyone using any wireless headsets for your Xbox series x? Find it hard to game at night and needing to reduce the volume (family sleeping)

I'm thinking the xbox wireless headset vs arctis 7x
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im using wired headsets. xbox wireless headset not many option right?
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post Oct 25 2022, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(awol @ Oct 25 2022, 09:25 AM)
im using wired headsets. xbox wireless headset not many option right?
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There's many but I'm looking at the official xbox headset. Need to purchase via sg tjo
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post Oct 25 2022, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2022, 04:03 PM)
Anyone using any wireless headsets for your Xbox series x? Find it hard to game at night and needing to reduce the volume (family sleeping)

I'm thinking the xbox wireless headset vs arctis 7x
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am using arctis 7x, so far no complain from me except once in a blue moon will have some connectivity issue,
but can be solved by simply move my ass to the console to unplug & plug back the dongle tongue.gif

if got budget, go for the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless RM1.5k free shipping from US via Amazon.sg tongue.gif
https://www.amazon.sg/gp/product/B09ZWKD9TF
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post Oct 25 2022, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Oct 25 2022, 09:48 AM)
am using arctis 7x, so far no complain from me except once in a blue moon will have some connectivity issue,
but can be solved by simply move my ass to the console to unplug & plug back the dongle  tongue.gif

if got budget, go for the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless RM1.5k free shipping from US via Amazon.sg tongue.gif
https://www.amazon.sg/gp/product/B09ZWKD9TF
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The issues with nova pro is it uses sonar which isn't available on the console so you aren't maxing out the headset full capability.
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post Oct 25 2022, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2022, 09:55 AM)
The issues with nova pro is it uses sonar which isn't available on the console so you aren't maxing out the headset full capability.
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??? sonar??

aren't it's compatible with both XsX and PS5?
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Oct 25 2022, 10:41 AM)
??? sonar??

aren't it's compatible with both XsX and PS5?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/steelseries/commen...nt=share_button

One reason I didnt get the pro. 7x would be my best bet
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post Oct 25 2022, 12:32 PM

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isn't sonar is just the software for PC, so there's no way you'll be able to use it on the consoles

since it's compatible with almost any headset on PC, so it's not exclusive to the Nova Pro only.

For me, Dolby Atmos for headset on Xbox is already very good for me
and since it support tempest audio on PS5 as well, that's another plus point for me

if it isn't damn difficult to sell off my Arctis 7x and Arctis Pro wireless, I would have grabbed this Nova Pro Wireless already


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post Oct 25 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 25 2022, 09:46 AM)
There's many but I'm looking at the official xbox headset. Need to purchase via sg tjo
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sorry. what i mean is that not many sold officially here.
last time i want to buy online, the seller did not ship out.
end up buying razer wired headset instead.
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post Oct 26 2022, 08:00 AM

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Plague requiem graphics is absolutely stunning. the details of the character and environment i believe will not lose to God of war lol. And xbox is superior, as always. And another thing that ps5 will not have, xbox play anywhere.

I have my PC at home, and xbox at brunei. so easy to move around seamless, hopefully more titles to support that features in the future.
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post Oct 26 2022, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 26 2022, 08:00 AM)
Plague requiem graphics is absolutely stunning. the details of the character and environment i believe will not lose to God of war lol. And xbox is superior, as always. And another thing that ps5 will not have, xbox play anywhere.

I have my PC at home, and xbox at brunei. so easy to move around seamless, hopefully more titles to support that features in the future.
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xbox play anywhere is the one that play on console, resume on pc right?
yeah, the graphics is stunning as expected.
going into photo mode a lot just to appreciate the details.

still, amicia died a lot this time. bye.gif
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post Oct 26 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(awol @ Oct 26 2022, 08:31 AM)
xbox play anywhere is the one that play on console, resume on pc right?
yeah, the graphics is stunning as expected.
going into photo mode a lot just to appreciate the details.

still, amicia died a lot this time.  bye.gif
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yup. and vice versa. Altho no raytracing etc but the lightings is so good man. can understand also why is only 30/40fps on console. Because on pc i use 4k reso with DLSS, also getting sub 60fps. but then since is not fast paced game i don mind it to run on 30fps also.
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post Oct 26 2022, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 26 2022, 09:36 AM)
yup. and vice versa. Altho no raytracing etc but the lightings is so good man. can understand also why is only 30/40fps on console. Because on pc i use 4k reso with DLSS, also getting sub 60fps. but then since is not fast paced game i don mind it to run on 30fps also.
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Supposedly they are working on raytracing suport right? I watched the Digital Foundry video where they mentioned raytracing support on PC.
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post Oct 26 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Oct 26 2022, 10:02 AM)
Supposedly they are working on raytracing suport right? I watched the Digital Foundry video where they mentioned raytracing support on PC.
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i dont see such option on pc. only ambient occulusion and SSR. probably work in progress. but cant imagine with raytracing the FPS will dip until like wat lol. i think without raytracing is already very good la for outdoor. probably more diff indoors, the lighting real abit.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 26 2022, 09:36 AM)
yup. and vice versa. Altho no raytracing etc but the lightings is so good man. can understand also why is only 30/40fps on console. Because on pc i use 4k reso with DLSS, also getting sub 60fps. but then since is not fast paced game i don mind it to run on 30fps also.
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not a fast pace game, so 30fps is acceptable.
so far did not suffer any frame drop or stutter.
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post Oct 26 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 26 2022, 11:27 AM)
i dont see such option on pc. only ambient occulusion and SSR. probably work in progress. but cant imagine with raytracing the FPS will dip until like wat lol. i think without raytracing is already very good la for outdoor. probably more diff indoors, the lighting real abit.
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Yeah not yet. But it should be coming soon. I remember seeing an Nvidia video about the game having RTX features, and I was right. I hope I can turn on everything with 4K, at 60fps or better.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=341KyDYjI0U
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QUOTE(tripleB @ Oct 26 2022, 03:24 PM)
Yeah not yet. But it should be coming soon. I remember seeing an Nvidia video about the game having RTX features, and I was right. I hope I can turn on everything with 4K, at 60fps or better.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=341KyDYjI0U
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u using 4090? if 4090 shud be no problem 4k 60fps lol.

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