Assuming the stocks is from SG, warranty is claimable from Microsoft SG no?

Abit risky to purchase without warranty.

yeah, that's why very hesitant to pre-order

guess I'll wait a bit until I can get the unit with local shop warranty

buy too soon also no use, my existing game library is still too much to handle...

It depends on how robust the hardware is I guess. My OG Xbox One was purchased through a friend in Ireland. No warranty whatsoever, but it didn't give me any problems. My Xbox One X was purchased from Impulse, with warranty through them. Lucky I had the warranty too, since it died after only 5 months. It would have been a very expensive paperweight if I didn't have the warranty.

yeah, that's the risk there

reports are coming in that the XBsX is running very hot,
basically it's a mini portable heater there with hot winds blowing out when it's running only XB1 games
can't imagine how hot it will be when it's running next gen games

But hot air also meaning the giant fan and the huge heat sink is working as intended
and I think we should have more space for air circulation around the console this time

wow if running hot, i worry another xbox360 RROD. exhaust of xbox360 is also damn hot, hot until hand also cant put there for long but doesnt mean the heat sink is working as intended

this is my nightmare la..

yeah, that's the concerns of many as well, the RROD nightmares are still fresh, I lost 2 units of X360 to RROD until the arrival of Jasper unit

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Lol i keep reviving my x360 using watever method i can wrap with cloth to heat it up then pray when hot enuf can play again lol. my next unit was jasper tho. they say not 100% wont rrod but jasper is much better in terms of heat.

heard ps5 doing well in heat management, the fan is silent tho.

From what I understand, hot air is being rapidly moved from the bottom of the console to the top, which is what we feel at the top vent. That means it's doing its job properly. The 360 actually had a known design flaw, but Microsoft still rushed it to beat Sony to market. I don't believe the Series X will have this issue, but some skepticism is healthy. I also don't want to give Microsoft a free pass over it.

from the teardown videos, it seems it's well designed this time, using big aluminum block, huge vapor chamber heatsink, and one big huge fan, looks well engineered, so I think internal running temp shouldn't be an issue this time.

while on the other camp, still nothing on the teardown, PS4's heat issue was pretty bad, anyone owning one will tell you how loud is it when running complex games.

Lol experienced RROD back in my high school days on the 360. Wrapped with towel to play superman returns and it lasted only about 10 mins before the whole process happens again. Brings back memories

I DIYed one using the washer on the x-clamps, lasted me for a few months only, tower trick doesn't seems to work for mine

hopefully they learned their lesson on rrod at 360.

Ah miss those simpler days. Played on old crt potato tv with no care in the world. No 4k, no 120hz, no ssd hdmi 2.1 optical raytracing etc nonsense

Nothing beats spending the evening playing tony hawk american wasteland on the 360 😂

yes bro... time tu tak kisah pasal 4k.. 144hz laaa... hahaha enjoy je main games

Ada main the OG modern warfare tak dulu bro? Remember used to play with a couple of singaporeans last time. Already a decade ago

Same here. My first 360 model was the launch version, the one without HDMI out. After that got RROD, I sent it to someone to have it fixed using washer method. I sold that unit to someone, so I'm not sure if it happened again. Then I got another unit that had the HDMI out (Falcon), but THAT also got RROD! I sent it to someone to be re-balled, and that fixed the issue permanently. I did however sell THAT one to my junior, and got a 360 arcade set as the replacement (Jasper). This one never got RROD to this day.

LOL, how come your experience is same like mine? except I DIYed the first two using washer method and resell it also
re-ball is too expensive for me since I'm planning to resell it anyway

anyway... those are really the simpler days, also the start of "Play Original" era, where I spend a lot of time "educating" my peers on the importance of buy & support original games

Trust me, MS must officially bring in Series S/X and Game Pass here, very sure it can sell like pisang goreng. Our console market really needs competition imo.

Are we the same person? 😄 Yup I also cared more about supporting the industry around this era. More Steam, original 360 and PS3 titles, less yargggh version.

Xbox Series X back-compat loading times: SSDs and HDDs compared
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalf...d-time-analysis