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 Can China Compete Japan Animation in 10 years?

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SUSoro100
post Dec 2 2019, 02:25 PM

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Disgusting, no originality, art style is basically anime copy n paste. Hong Kong 90s comics were much better and original than these.

The only thing PRC can match is the art style even that is questionable at best. Story lines and plots are light years behind Japanese and Korean.

Japan anime was influenced by Disney cartoons, but has evolved to the point that it can be considered as something totally different. Even in the early days of anime, the art style already showed sign of deviation from american cartoon.

Unlike PRC cartoons, which try so hard to copy everything anime yet fail so miserably. The art styles feel like generic anime from non japanese/korean companies.

Japan anime was inspired by western cartoon and exhibits originality that is unique to the anime genre. As for PRC, they are just freaking copying and pasting everything from Japan even down to the shape of the eyelash. Disgusting.

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post Dec 2 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(oro100 @ Dec 2 2019, 02:25 PM)
Disgusting, no originality, art style is basically anime copy n paste. Hong Kong 90s comics were much better and original than these.

The only thing PRC can match is the art style even that is questionable at best. Story lines and plots are light years behind Japanese and Korean.

Japan anime was influenced by Disney cartoons, but has evolved to the point that it can be considered as something totally different. Even in the early days of anime, the art style already showed sign of deviation from american cartoon.

Unlike PRC cartoons, which try so hard to copy everything anime yet fail so miserably. The art styles feel like generic anime from non japanese/korean companies.

Japan anime was inspired by western cartoon and exhibits originality that is unique to the anime genre. As for PRC, they are just freaking copying and pasting everything from Japan even down to the shape of the eyelash. Disgusting.
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Japan animation actually started more than 50 years ago which in my opinion began to rise with works of Osamu Tezuka(Astro Boy, Blue Blink) and others during 1960s and slowly transcend into golden age that smoothly dominates the world but unfortunately for China it was tragic.

Here's something from Wikipedia:

Animation industry did not begin until the arrival of the Wan brothers in 1926 produced the first Chinese animated film with sound, The Camel's Dance, in 1935. Princess Iron Fan was the first animated feature film in Asia and it had great impact on wartime Japanese Momotaro animated feature films and later on Osamu Tezuka. China was relatively on pace with the rest of the world up to the mid-1960s, with the Wan's brothers Havoc in Heaven earning numerous international awards.

China's golden age of animation would come to an end following the onset of the Cultural Revolution in 1966. Many animators were forced to quit. If not for harsh economic conditions, the mistreatment of the Red Guards would threaten their work. By the 1980s, Japan would emerge as the animation powerhouse of the Far East, leaving China's industry far behind in reputation and productivity. wiki ends.

China's current animation industry is more of a restart which began after 1990 and while the last 20 years has been shameless copying and such, I find it serves more of learning than creating by catching up in terms of technical skills and management but in my opinion looking at the astounding success of the recent movie Ne Zha as well huge failures of many others, soul searching has already began where local investors slowly realize the industry is powered by creativity not capital.

Of course there's no easy way to predict 10 years from now but in my opinion it is long enough for China to transcend from copying into creating original contents.


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post Jan 31 2020, 09:32 PM

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There's a lot of Donghua (China base animation) getting better and better. I believe the year 2019 and coming 2020 will be an explosion of such animations. From a long time watcher of animation especially japanese animations, been switching more to more Donghua animation from 2019 onwards.....

Example Xi xing ji (westward journey)


Or the Manga version

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There are many more such series/gems if you know how to search...



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post Jan 31 2020, 09:42 PM

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knowing CCP, another method to spread propaganda or nine dash line only
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post Jan 31 2020, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(ghost_brocolli @ Jan 31 2020, 09:42 PM)
knowing CCP, another method to spread propaganda or nine dash line only
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post Jan 31 2020, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ghost_brocolli @ Jan 31 2020, 09:42 PM)
knowing CCP, another method to spread propaganda or nine dash line only
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What the fck is wrong with you? Lowyat been infested with a lot of propagandists nonsense also want come....macam CIA base agents also interested in a Kopitiam forum post. Ccp this and that adoi......go the other post your nonsense ccp la or whatever isis hnng thread ah jib gor fans you like

Talk anime pulak ccp here...bodo sohai.... doh.gif
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post Jan 31 2020, 10:13 PM

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If I'm not wrong some of the production is outsourced to a local animation company in Malaysia.

china's 3D animated film has improved a lot but their 2D is still missing something.


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post Jan 31 2020, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(catherintherye @ Jan 31 2020, 09:32 PM)
There's a lot of Donghua (China base animation) getting better and better. I believe the year 2019 and coming 2020 will be an explosion of such animations. From a long time watcher of animation especially japanese animations, been switching more to more Donghua animation from 2019 onwards.....

Example Xi xing ji (westward journey)


Or the Manga version

user posted image

There are many more such series/gems if you know how to search...
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What's the name for the Manhwa?

Follow few chapters then forgotten about it.

The author is same from Feng Shen Ji which also very good.
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post Jan 31 2020, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(animemy @ Dec 1 2019, 03:37 PM)

"In 10 years the Chinese animation industry will outperform the Japanese anime industry." These aren't my words but instead Yoshitada Fukuhara's. In this video I explore a bit more into the idea of donghua and anime as rivals and how the two industries may develop in the future. You can consider this an update to my older video about donghua transcending anime as that one was a little harsh in tone compared to this. Please let me know what you think.
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no, they're all trashy cliche.
look at all the prc funded anime by japanese or chinese co-studio.
they're all trash. quality and story.

3dcg however, if it's not a high budget movie, jap are trash. see new gits. trash.

the future is spanish anime.


This post has been edited by shirohamada: Jan 31 2020, 10:28 PM
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post Jan 31 2020, 10:30 PM

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But they cant never ever copy or compete japanese in voice over
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post Jan 31 2020, 10:31 PM

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Some of the popular Japan anime is already made in China. Anime movie also

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post Jan 31 2020, 10:41 PM

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saw a few Chinese animation.
IMO the art style are too copy no jitsu Japanese. unlike angmoh and even Malaysian who follow neepornjin storytelling but change the animation style, Chinese goes the complete opposite. neepornjin styles animation but with cringy storyline and horrible humor.

it is in itself a turn off for most people, as you fell like you are consuming an inferior fake.

add in sometime the usual amount of CCP censorships and Chinese nationalist agenda in it.


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post Jan 31 2020, 10:45 PM

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No because ccp censorhip. I still hate that they discontinued release that witch novel because of ccp.
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post Jan 31 2020, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Yzarc @ Jan 31 2020, 10:13 PM)
If I'm not wrong some of the production is outsourced to a local animation company in Malaysia.

china's 3D animated film has improved a lot but their 2D is still missing something.
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I believe it is Mirayi Animation Studio.

Mirayi Website

In my opinion China should focus on one hit wonder such as the recent Nezha movie, Makoto Shinkai's Weathering with you and Disney's Frozen 2 as well working creatively hard to develop its own identity where the moment such animation appears on trailer, most young viewers would immediately recognized it as Chinese Donghua.

It would be amazing to see how well Chinese animation industry perform in 2025 if they continue to produce movies such as the upcoming one below and improve its storytelling and art style along the way.


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post Jan 31 2020, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(catherintherye @ Jan 31 2020, 09:50 PM)
What the fck is wrong with you? Lowyat been infested with a lot of propagandists nonsense also want come....macam CIA base agents also interested in a Kopitiam forum post. Ccp this and that adoi......go the other post your nonsense ccp la or whatever isis hnng thread ah jib gor fans you like 

Talk anime pulak ccp here...bodo sohai.... doh.gif
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