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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Sep 1 2022, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Sep 1 2022, 09:46 AM)
Guys just curious. I always forget to screenshot my amount before just before I deposit, to ensure that my money is really in when I buy. Has a situation happened before where u buy and the amount is not updated?
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You can see history of deposits.. in and out.. if you using apps.. scroll down a bit more and you are history and can be sorted by account. By default is all accounts. If you tab asm2 it will bring you into asm2 info and before are the history in and out.
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post Sep 1 2022, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 1 2022, 09:45 AM)
There like soooo much unit available

Guess people realized now....
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Realized what? Asm2 not good? I still think it is good. This economy and state 3.75% not bad already.
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post Sep 1 2022, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 1 2022, 10:10 AM)
Like I said 3.75%p.a paid in RM and downgoing yearly Vs 4.3%p.a paid in SGD with min increase of 5%p.a.

I am being conservative here. If you have good holding power, you can easily get 10%p.a yield on cost by holding say 10 years.

If you think still good, then I don't know what to say. doh.gif
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Can give example of 5% or 10% p.a. in sg kah? I looked at the reits you mentioned. I checked all 4 of the maple reits and only see one that is past 5% p.a. and it's like not consistent also. Any other example? What about the 15% p.a. for life you mentioned previously? What's that?

I still holding coz i still not confident putting money outside of malaysia and for Malaysia asm2 is as good as it gets. I still looking and studying and persuading myself to try though.
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post Sep 1 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(akhito @ Sep 1 2022, 10:25 AM)
Thanks been wary of this since the rise of unauthorized withdrawals. Last time when i registered that time must go counter in person for withdrawal so felt quite safe compared to bank acc with online banking.
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You need to register the bank details with them and they will verify it which takes a few months. Once verify they will let you withdraw to that bank account only. When you register, it must be under your name only and they do verify it is. So you are pretty safe there plus max of 2k per month only. 2k per month means 2k one shot or 500, 500 and 1k (3 transaction max). Not 2k, 2k and 2k.
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post Sep 2 2022, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 1 2022, 10:18 PM)
Some would be very disappointed with the huge demand on ASMx fund 😁

Anyway...
Looking at how "smart" ASNB doing investment...
Don't be surprised if lower rate than ASM 2...

Expect the unexpected yo 🙏
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You don't so bad bad la.. already so many bad news still add salt. Plus 3.75% on such bad market consider ok la. Sigh.. cannot retire early. Need to work extra few years sad.gif
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post Sep 2 2022, 12:48 PM

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Aduh... Bad news all over...

gov remove petrol subsidy and stuff coming soon next year...

Like this is all in effect... 10% dividend also not enough lo..
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post Sep 2 2022, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 2 2022, 03:08 PM)
i'm not a wizard. LOL. if i do know, i will be rich  laugh.gif
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You are a hairy, lizard.. i mean you are a hairy wizard... I mean you are a wizard, harry...
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post Sep 2 2022, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(download88 @ Sep 2 2022, 01:12 PM)
normally use asnb website or apps easier to hunt?
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They are the same. But apps can do on phone so that's my method of choice. Faster and easier to click.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2022, 01:24 PM)
got such thing ahhh?  hmm.gif  icon_question.gif

allocation / different quota for both platform??????
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Same same only

QUOTE(MattSally @ Sep 2 2022, 01:27 PM)
The linked article states that if all subsidies are removed then inflation would likely be 12%. That would be unsustainable for many people and many sectors of industry.
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It will be worse coz gov servant increase salary by additional rm100 min... Aka.. everything will raise in price and it will go viral up plus it will never go down in price even if petrol price goes down. 12%? That's a joke. Even 20% i not surprised.

QUOTE(stinger @ Sep 2 2022, 01:30 PM)
I am trying to transfer my parent's account to me, but I don't have the account for asm2
I missed the opportunity yesterday  bangwall.gif

I am thinking to have them sell abit over the counter, at the same counter ask the guy to buy right after, then continue transfer the remaining amount

anyone tried if this tactic works?
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Why not go to asnb counter and fill in the form to transfer direct? I think a small fee of 15 and you can transfer how much they willing. More secure plus all units you capture for a small fee. The problem is they need to be there with you coz they need to sign the documents.

QUOTE(gedebe @ Sep 2 2022, 02:02 PM)
is this normal or what, myasnb down for maintenance since i think yesterday
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Looks fine to me.
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post Sep 2 2022, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 2 2022, 03:32 PM)
That was the rate US and UK reported right

Well, more EU countries got a d shockingnl hike in energy price coming

MY is hanging on with subsidies for you know what reason
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He was referring to the news article i linked just now. Maybank IB (investment bank) predict around 12% inflation if removed ron95 and diesel subsidy next year.
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post Sep 2 2022, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 2 2022, 03:39 PM)
Yes I got his meaning

That was the inflation % reported in the Western within the past few months so sounds realistic
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Probably "copy and paste" rates. 😂 It should be more. Increase gov salary, increase transportation cost. Basic salary increase extended to less than 5 employees, no more low value (rm500) tax exemption including local delivery (double charge, one when produce or import and one when you send by post so shopee and Lazada will suffer), increase cost of import due to lower exchange rate hence increases cost to produce.. all add up 20% is already too optimistic lo.
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post Sep 2 2022, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 2 2022, 03:48 PM)
That's why we need to get rid of stupid zafrul. He's making our live more expensive with the stupid tax.
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Don't agree.

We should get rid of all "U" and "P" ppl and put qualified ppl in. Not those who knows nothing and talk rubbish one. We are actually very strong nation in terms of resources and stuff... Sigh.. looks like i have no choice but really need to look at Singapore for now sad.gif
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post Sep 3 2022, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(lim47 @ Sep 3 2022, 02:01 PM)
Blocked liao cannot buy. Asm2 got limit to own maximum?😁

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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Sep 3 2022, 02:24 PM)
What mean? Each person whole life maximum RM150k at ASM2? Cannot more than RM151K, not allow to buy?
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No limit. And no.. you can still buy.
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post Sep 30 2022, 10:54 PM

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Gg.. asm 3 announced 3.75% as expected

asm3 DIVIDEN announcement
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post Jan 14 2023, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 11 2023, 11:21 PM)
My "first love"....
Hard to ignore it 😜😎
Mixture of EPF, FD, REITs....
😁

Oh, property too....
For myself & investment purposes 😁
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2023, 09:29 AM)
Meanwhile

ASM 1 & 2 cannot be seen anywhere ðŸĪŠ

Don't know what purpose ASNB block them & only release ASM 3 ðŸĪ”
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jan 12 2023, 09:49 AM)
Actually can get ASM 1 & 2 easily. Just need to wake up at 2am. I usually still awake at 2am, so i knew.
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I can vouch for what ikan bilis said. Accumulate 10k ASM1 over the past 3 nights waking up at 2am (actually i sleep late so i just stay until then) and i can get 3k first night, 3k second night and 4k this morning. This morning unique coz at 2am the apps says error cannot do anything at 2am and i waited until i officially going to bed (3.59am) and tried and got 4k one shot. I was moving funds from KDI save (3.5% EAR or 3.44%/365 a day interest) slowly to asm1. The amount as stated. 3k 3 days ago (first time can buy, 3k second night and 4k this morning). The money was suppose to be accumulate to buy stocks when recession hit but i change my mind 3 days ago coz i have been wanting asm1 for years but never get. I also got some asm3 past month. But asm1 my top priority.

As for why? Coz ASM no matter what is backed by gov. 4% is "okay". It's easy, its liquid (2k a month withdrawal max and the rest go bank or branch) so i take it as emergency fund plus it's safer than leaving in savings. FD requires me to go bank and make accounts or queue and it's not liquid. 1% higher is not "yet" a good trade off unless it's permenant for the rest of my life. FD can easily buy later if needed. Hyperinflation? In Malaysia? Got think of it. But cost of living is still lowest. Can survive la. Moving overseas? I have one plan which i considering end of year that requires me to fly to Singapore for it. Plan to do it. 4-5% per year with quarterly dividend. But i need to fly there to sign up for it. Can wait la. ASM 1 first tongue.gif but the risk is the same. You need to park there and hope nothing happens. Which is more secure? ASM is still more secure and it's within reach and if i die, it can be pass on to my wife. Oversea one is harder to arrange coz it involves other country. Hence i still parking in Malaysia. Risk vs benefit. Ease vs difficulty. In the end ASM still give more in value. I sacrifice 1% yield for the gurantees, convenience and stability. That's my 2 cents... Don't kill me please smile.gif

I will eventually consider EPF (just putting it out there) as it has the same gurantees, ease and stability and higher return but illiquid. 5 more years and i will then start moving funds into it. I don't see myself using a lot of money but i wanna leave the money liquid. 10 years is too "far" for me to be comfortable to lock the money up.

It's my opinion and 2 cents. Don't kill me.

This post has been edited by Wolves: Jan 14 2023, 12:48 PM
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post Jan 14 2023, 01:08 PM

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Just wondering why i change my mind suddenly in the past 3 nights? Coz US CPI index announcement which was as expected. This means that inflation is under control and the FED will go from hawkish (aggressive hike) to dovish (less aggressive and potentially reverse) stance. This is not financial advice. But what this means it's they are going to slow down the hike and eventually reduce. It is a good sign for the market (and ppl who loan or businesses) but not for people who harvest interest rates. In other words if that starts to happen, fixed deposit rates will weaken as bank needs to make money too. Sustainability is key. If they reduce interest rates then banks cannot afford to pay high interest to fixed deposits coz they wanna make money too. Will this happen instantly? No. They still will increase the interest rates a few more times this year and only starting to cut next year. So yes technically 1 year is a good bet. But the moment they start to cut back, money will flow back into stocks and bonds and mutual funds. So i am accumulating now before i have to play WWE with the rest of the ppl tongue.gif i am just lazy. So even though i don't expect good dividen this year (4% realistic target, 4.2% optimistic target and 3.8% pessimistic target), i believe next year we can see better outcome. Stocks which i do plan to go into and moving some overseas too, i believe i still got time coz the full effects of recession is not here "yet". Just explaining why i have sudden change of mind.
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post Jan 16 2023, 01:47 PM

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Now fishing asm1... 😂 Will try to buy another batch tonight at 2am. No interest in asm3 already
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post Jan 16 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Jan 16 2023, 04:13 PM)
Let us know if you can actually get the ASM1.
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Sure can get. I got them 3 nights in a row last week. You just need to be awake at 2am.
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post Jan 17 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 16 2023, 05:15 PM)
50k surely can get?
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If memory serves me right, it's asm3 and first 30k. I could be wrong

QUOTE(Mattrock @ Jan 16 2023, 06:31 PM)
Won't distract you guys from the discussion.
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Discussion is more fun when more ppl from different viewpoint give inputs. So feel free to join. It's more of opinions and viewpoint. No right or wrong answer.

QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 16 2023, 11:23 PM)
why asm3 in not your choice, because it is not as good as asm1 and sam2?
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ASM1 harder to get all these years compare to asm3. Historically speaking ASM1 also gives better by a bit (1% or less) compare to the other two hence it's harder to get and more ppl holding it and not letting it go compare to the other two.

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post Jan 17 2023, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Jan 16 2023, 04:13 PM)
Let us know if you can actually get the ASM1.
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Separate post for you. This morning 2am i try but got error. I guess thier maintenance is slower so error. I waited 30 minutes (plus minus 5 minutes) and try again and the units are gone. Tried at 3am (plus minus half hour coz i took a nap) and still none. Did the same at 4am (plus minus half hour coz i took another nap) and still 0. So i give up. I will try again tonight same pattern. Will update if i get any asm1.
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post Jan 17 2023, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 17 2023, 10:22 AM)
either no units released, or competition too high since the golden hour is shared
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I think no more units as well.

QUOTE(MNF0 @ Jan 17 2023, 11:57 AM)
Thank you very much for the update.
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I will continue trying next few days so let's see when i can get it again.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 17 2023, 02:26 PM)
More like No more units...
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Need to wait few more days...
CNY around the corner...
Got more withdrawal next 2days...
Possibly Thursday morning mega sales 😅😏
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And this is why i trying these few days. 😂 I estimate today or tomorrow they will sell more units coz it takes time to withdraw into bank account. And i am sure ppl who done this years upon years will know how crowded the banks or asnb are nearing CNY and they want to buy groceries and stuff for CNY before CNY. So if Friday is the last day of the Chinese calendar, they might want to see the money in the bank on Thursday. So today and tomorrow should be plentiful. "Should be".

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