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post Feb 12 2020, 10:58 PM

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I bought 2 used Lenovo laptops last year.

Thinkpad X220 and Thinkpad X60s, both already upgraded to max specs by previous owners. Now I found people actually putting latest CPUs and chipset in these ancient machines. Gonna do some research. Apparently can order from China and will be PnP.
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post Feb 13 2020, 12:59 AM

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i just realised my work laptop cost like 10k rm,

HP EliteBook 850 G6 Laptop

dang nearly as expensive as my pc

no wonder can handle like 50 chrome tabs and 3 revit models

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post Feb 13 2020, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Aud power @ Feb 13 2020, 12:59 AM)
i just realised my work laptop cost like 10k rm,

HP EliteBook 850 G6 Laptop

dang nearly as expensive as my pc

no wonder can handle like 50 chrome tabs and 3 revit models
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commercial laptop all expensive because not designed to kaput tomorrow.....
consumer laptops, even expensive gaming laptops show their age in 2 years.....
even though spec high, you'll start to see things like plastic crack, hinge too stiff, USB macam longar etc

Also, Elitebook 850 at 10k sounds like yesteryear prices.......
also, i think u lie a bit tongue.gif
maybe cost RM 6k only

Probook >Elitebook > Zbook.

Probook is cheapest, Elitebook typically does not come with workstation graphics.

Probook = E series
Elitebook = T,X series
Zbook = W series.

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post Feb 13 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 13 2020, 12:42 PM)
commercial laptop all expensive because not designed to kaput tomorrow.....
consumer laptops, especially gaming laptops show their age in 2 years.....
even though spec high, you'll start to see things like plastic crack, hinge too stiff, USB macam longar etc
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For stuff i use everyday , always buy high end

Shoes all 2.5k+
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post Feb 13 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Aud power @ Feb 13 2020, 12:45 PM)
For stuff i use everyday , always buy high end

Shoes all 2.5k+
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kecian my shoes cost 2.5k baht only cry.gif cry.gif
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post Feb 13 2020, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 13 2020, 12:46 PM)
kecian my shoes cost 2.5k baht only  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Later your feet uncomfortable you also feel uncomfortable
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post Feb 13 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Aud power @ Feb 13 2020, 12:49 PM)
Later your feet uncomfortable you also feel uncomfortable
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only then can have excuse reasons to go thai masat and happy ending brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 13 2020, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 13 2020, 12:42 PM)
commercial laptop all expensive because not designed to kaput tomorrow.....
consumer laptops, even expensive gaming laptops show their age in 2 years.....
even though spec high, you'll start to see things like plastic crack, hinge too stiff, USB macam longar etc

Also, Elitebook 850 at 10k sounds like yesteryear prices.......
also, i think u lie a bit tongue.gif
maybe cost RM 6k only

Probook >Elitebook > Zbook.

Probook is cheapest, Elitebook typically does not come with workstation graphics.

Probook = E series
Elitebook = T,X series
Zbook = W series.
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not totally accurate bro, my acer aspire bought 8 years ago still rocks... changed HDD once, normal degradation of HDD, other than that still working fine. I dont do gaming.
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post Feb 13 2020, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Aud power @ Feb 13 2020, 12:59 AM)
i just realised my work laptop cost like 10k rm,

HP EliteBook 850 G6 Laptop

dang nearly as expensive as my pc

no wonder can handle like 50 chrome tabs and 3 revit models
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Only 50 tabs? I got a T495 with 32GB RAM for like rm3K and can open about 1000 chrome tabs.

Thanks to Benefon, super happy with the purchase made last year.


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post Feb 13 2020, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Feb 13 2020, 08:32 PM)
Only 50 tabs? I got a T495 with 32GB RAM for like rm3K and can open about 1000 chrome tabs.

Thanks to Benefon, super happy with the purchase made last year.


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Don’t bother him, he prefer MacBook Pro only
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post Feb 17 2020, 09:04 PM

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Sigh so long and epic a wait. Ordered a custom T495 on 28 January with the CS promising a 5 day ship out. Until today zero update to OVP. All they have replied on 8 Feb is delays due to the virus.

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post Feb 18 2020, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(alpha001 @ Feb 12 2020, 09:45 PM)
Thanks but I stick to the 1.5k budget.
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So what laptop have u purchased?
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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 12 2020, 10:44 PM)
If you can accept the sucky TN panel, L340 probably is your  best bet. Another thing is the whole laptop is plastic build, which is not the best experience to me as someone getting accustomed to metal build laptops.

BTW, I gotten mine with 3500u for under RM1.5k, and at times it can even go lower than RM1.4k...

All you need is to configure the stock RAM to 4GB onboard and use the remaining money to buy another stick of 3rd party RAM and you got a perfect budget office laptop that can rival i5 laptop costing at least RM500 more than that.
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Any review/comment on ur purchase? Especially on the TN panel and 3500u performance. Is the color on TN panel really that bad on this model? I assume u took FHD one right?

Am looking at this model too, same confiq with yours too. Might change the ram to 4+4, and 1tb hdd + 128ssd. What color is your laptop?
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post Feb 23 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 09:35 AM)
Any review/comment on ur purchase? Especially on the TN panel and 3500u performance. Is the color on TN panel really that bad on this model? I assume u took FHD one right?

Am looking at this model too, same confiq with yours too. Might change the ram to 4+4, and 1tb hdd + 128ssd. What color is your laptop?
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Yes, the TN panel is pretty terrible in terms of viewing angle, even in perfect perpendicular angle view also you can’t get a good viewing angle, KEK. I’m the type of guy that are used to 110-120 degree screen viewing. And the display is showing different content top and bottom due to the colour shift, LOLOLOL. Luckily the display colours and black/white words display are not as terrible and much more acceptable. Brightness is just sufficient for indoor use, outdoor wouldn’t be possible with low brightness like this. Yes, mine is FHD one.

To get FHD screen option, you need to change the RAM to onboard 4GB. They didn’t allow further RAM configuration if you opt for the 3500u+FHD configuration. I added a 3rd party ADATA RAM myself, and didn’t face any compatibility problem. BTW, the stock RAM chips are by Micron if you’re interested to know.

Try to get their stock 256GB SSD configuration if the price is cheap, as it comes with a decent SAMSUNG OEM SATA SSD if you opted for the 256GB. If you’re on 128GB, you may get some random China OEM SSD.

I added RM10 for the Blue colour, but it’s as dark as black colour in practice. The default grey colour also looks very decent and easily be found in retails.

Oh, regarding the performance, somehow it’s a little shortcoming from what’s I’m expecting, as on benchmark that thing is easily an I5 and even on par with the almost a decade old i7-3770. For some reasons, there is some occasional hiccups when using Microsoft Words... Maybe driver issues or that’s the popular AMD lacks optimisation issues, hmmmm.

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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 23 2020, 03:11 PM)
Yes, the TN panel is pretty terrible in terms of viewing angle, even in perfect perpendicular angle view also you can’t get a good viewing angle, KEK. I’m the type of guy that are used to 110-120 degree screen viewing. And the display is showing different content top and bottom due to the colour shift, LOLOLOL. Luckily the display colours and black/white words display are not as terrible and much more acceptable. Yes, mine is FHD one.

To get FHD screen option, you need to change the RAM to onboard 4GB. They didn’t allow further RAM configuration if you opt for the 3500u+FHD configuration. I added a 3rd party ADATA RAM myself, and didn’t face any compatibility problem. BTW, the stock RAM chips are by Micron if you’re interested to know.

Try to get their stock 256GB SSD configuration if the price is cheap, as it comes with a decent SAMSUNG OEM SATA SSD if you opted for the 256GB. If you’re on 128GB, you may get some random China OEM SSD.

I added RM10 for the Blue colour, but it’s as dark as black colour in practice. The default grey colour also looks very decent and easily be found in retails.
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Nice explanations, nice man. At first i was planning to configure it as 4gb on board ram, and add 8gb ram separately by myself on the sodimm slot. But worry both ram might not works well, in the end there is no 12gb performance. So in the end i think best is 4+4.

I wan the 256gb too, but too bad the option is not available if u choose 1tb hdd. U only left with 128 option if u choose 1tb hdd. And i really need to 1tb hdd. I even tried to configure 2tb + 128 or 256, fails. Even worse, there is no option of 128 if u choose 2tb.

Haha, i was planning to get the blue color too. Do u have any photos of the blue color? I google it few times, but no results of the abyss blue. I would go either blue (more unique) or grey (more classy, and reminds me of 13s, lol) if i decide to buy 1.

The TN is really a possible deal breaker for me. If ips screen is available, i would have get it by now as i think overall the price is ok.
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post Feb 23 2020, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 03:21 PM)
Nice explanations, nice man. At first i was planning to configure it as 4gb on board ram, and add 8gb ram separately by myself on the sodimm slot. But worry both ram might not works well, in the end there is no 12gb performance. So in the end i think best is 4+4.

I wan the 256gb too, but too bad the option is not available if u choose 1tb hdd. U only left with 128 option if u choose 1tb hdd. And i really need to 1tb hdd. I even tried to configure 2tb + 128 or 256, fails. Even worse, there is no option of 128 if u choose 2tb.

Haha, i was planning to get the blue color too. Do u have any photos of the blue color? I google it few times, but no results of the abyss blue. I would go either blue (more unique) or grey (more classy, and reminds me of 13s, lol) if i decide to buy 1.

The TN is really a possible deal breaker for me. If ips screen is available, i would have get it by now as i think overall the price is ok.
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No worry, 4+8GB of RAM works just fine. Also since this laptop is using APU, it’s better to have more RAM as part of it is used for VRAM. In fact in 2019, many laptops resolved to the 4GB soldered + 1dimm slot option, that’s why you saw many 12GB or 20GB laptops around.

To me Samsung’s SATA (or even their whole SSD series) SSD is good and it’s what’s best I can get for the cheapo budget laptop. The laptop itself actually has 3 possible bays for HDD/SSD mounting. 1st is the standard 2.5” SATA bay, then next is the ODD bay for 2.5” HDD/SSD too. Lastly there’s also a M2 PCIE slot for NVME SSD.

The colours I try to capture and compared to seamaster blue. Last time during my purchase, they have the White colour option too, but it takes a longer time and also extra RM20 IINM. As I afraid it will get dirty easily, so I skipped it.

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Yeah, the screen really sucks and it’s best to see if you really can accept it before you pull the trigger. I’m waiting the warranty to over and source for 3rd party compatible panels in future, haha...

Cons aside, 3 features I’m convinced with the laptop purchases are the 180 degree lid angle (almost all modern Lenovo laptop can do so), under 45W power consumption (it can allow powerbank charging if you can get the proper cables and converter, sadly it has no native USB PD support though) and misc stuffs like webcam shutter+optical disc bay that most laptops in 2020 simply won’t bother to put in, KEK.

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dumping intel laptops now cuz AMD APU will com soon.
cheaper & performance better.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 23 2020, 03:35 PM)
No worry, 4+8GB of RAM works just fine. Also since this laptop is using APU, it’s better to have more RAM as part of it is used for VRAM. In fact in 2019, many laptops resolved to the 4GB soldered + 1dimm slot option, that’s why you saw many 12GB or 20GB laptops around.

To me Samsung’s SATA (or even their whole SSD series) SSD is good and it’s what’s best I can get for the cheapo budget laptop. The laptop itself actually has 3 possible bays for HDD/SSD mounting. 1st is the standard 2.5” SATA bay, then next is the ODD bay for 2.5” HDD/SSD too. Lastly there’s also a M2 PCIE slot for NVME SSD.

The colours I try to capture and compared to seamaster blue. Last time during my purchase, they have the White colour option too, but it takes a longer time and also extra RM20 IINM. As I afraid it will get dirty easily, so I skipped it.

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Yeah, the screen really sucks and it’s best to see if you really can accept it before you pull the trigger. I’m waiting the warranty to over and source for 3rd party compatible panels in future, haha...

Cons aside, 3 features I’m convinced with the laptop purchases are the 180 degree lid angle (almost all modern Lenovo laptop can do so), under 45W power consumption (it can allow powerbank charging if you can get the proper cables and converter, sadly it has no native USB PD support though) and misc stuffs like webcam shutter+optical disc bay that most laptops in 2020 simply won’t bother to put in, KEK.
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Thanks for the photo. The blue does indeed looks abit like black.

Yes, now still considering to take it or not. They do have the ips offering in l340, but is gaming series: l340 gaming. The cheapest in that series is more expensive by 1k, lol. But its intel 9th gen with 256 + 1 tb option, and gtx 1050 card
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post Feb 23 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Feb 23 2020, 03:55 PM)
Thanks for the photo. The blue does indeed looks abit like black.

Yes, now still considering to take it or not. They do have the ips offering in l340, but is gaming series: l340 gaming. The cheapest in that series is more expensive by 1k, lol. But its intel 9th gen with 256 + 1 tb option, and gtx 1050 card
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L340 (gaming) is abomination for gaming laptop...

The first thing that I cross it out is the 4GB soldered RAM. It’s acceptable for office laptops like L340 AMD, but not acceptable for a gaming laptop.

Also, gaming laptops are another highly competitive segments. There’s many decent offers from HP or the area51 gaming laptop brands

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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 23 2020, 03:57 PM)
L340 (gaming) is abomination for gaming laptop...

The first thing that I cross it out is the 4GB soldered RAM. It’s acceptable for office laptops like L340 AMD, but not acceptable for a gaming laptop.

Also, gaming laptops are another highly competitive segments. There’s many decent offers from HP or the area51 gaming laptop brands
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But the price is quite cheap compare to HP for equivalent specs or Area51. Btw, the 8gb is onboard? I thought its SODIMM.

If that laptop we purchase for normal usage with occasional light/medium gaming, quite worth it. But still, I feel the l340 with amd is more worth it, haha.

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