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post Sep 10 2007, 09:30 PM

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this is my best reading & i'm not within izzi cover area

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post Sep 11 2007, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(lamdogkc @ Sep 10 2007, 09:30 PM)
this is my best reading & i'm not within izzi cover area
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and where might your area be ? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2007, 02:13 PM

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wayfeel,

normally if that downlink is good, then i get 100-120 kB/s. however, if the link is busy, usually 40-70 KB/s
same with urs?
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post Sep 11 2007, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 11 2007, 02:11 PM)
and where might your area be ?  biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2007, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(lamdogkc @ Sep 10 2007, 09:30 PM)
this is my best reading & i'm not within izzi cover area
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Forgot to put extra zero at the back of the speedtest ah laugh.gif ??

The speedtest is super slow but since you not within coverage I guess thats a "reasonable" excuse. Oh well best of luck for ya in the future.
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QUOTE(ahpek26 @ Sep 11 2007, 03:08 PM)
Forgot to put extra zero at the back of the speedtest ah laugh.gif ??

The speedtest is super slow but since you not within coverage I guess thats a "reasonable" excuse. Oh well best of luck for ya in the future.
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anybody know where are their base station?

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http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=3.133199&lon...=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

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post Sep 11 2007, 06:55 PM

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went seksyen 14 to digital mall today after lunch. picked my friend up from CSA. THIS IS IN NO WAY a fake conversation. THIS IS REAL.

Got a flier and some chinese dude and a chick at their counter right in front of DIGITAL MALL SEKSYEN 14 pj.
conversation went like this :

me: so it says here u can drive and surf at the same time right ?
izzi dude: yes definitely can.
me: so i bring my car around and we'll test it ?
izzi dude: sure, and if dun work then u no need subscribe
me: isnt that obvious u moron.

so i went to take my car and drove it to the front. my friend continued the conversation after i left to take the car.

my friend: so u get throttled ?
izzi chick: no we dont
my friend: sure or not ?
izzi chick: yah i using the bitcomet
my friend: so do u get international peers?
izzi chick: yah i using bitcomet.
my friend: (died laughing till they all got in my car)

so i drove at 100km/h as stated by the izzi counter dude with his laptop on his legs at damansara heights area. the moment i went to jalan semantan. signal was 0. He was like "oh they must be upgrading the works"
ok fine. drove to another stretch at the road behind muzium (cause thats one of the roads with hardly any jam/if u turn left u get to KL Sentral and i forgot what the roads name was)
STILL NO SIGNAL.
ok forget it i'm turning back. enter bangsar ok signal strength got, izzi dude pointing to me. but guess what, point the cursor over to the windows wireless networking icon- signal WEAK !
send him back ask him F**K off from my car.

LESSON LEARNT : Jalan Damansara near wisma UOA got pretty chicks to see.

So u all be the judge yourselves.
Tomorrow, will take a pic of that idiot and post it here for u all to see. Need to pick up my hdd from AONE Plus anyway.

p/s - to the mods and admins, is posting of that idiots face allowed in here ? or do i need some sorta permission so that the nice forumers in here can be wary of him ?
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post Sep 11 2007, 08:26 PM

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zo0o0mg that is uber funny. Post a pic of the guy? Erm.. why the heck not hehehe..
"send him back ask him F**K off from my car. " - Sure or not? Macam tak percaya aje... got record meh? thumbup.gif

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post Sep 11 2007, 11:08 PM

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Added on September 11, 2007, 11:10 pm
QUOTE(arjen_robben81 @ Sep 11 2007, 02:13 PM)
wayfeel,

normally if that downlink is good, then i get 100-120 kB/s. however, if the link is busy, usually 40-70 KB/s
same with urs?
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arjen,

i seriously think taking the bt dl rate as benchmark for iburst speed not so accurate becus the bt dl rate is dependent on too many factors ie file popularity, seed/peer ratio some r 1-1, some 5-1, and even s/p ratio is same but each seeders limit upload differently, and then, there's tht individual bt client set differently somemore.


wat downlink.

Connect:Link zzz
Rcvd xxx :Sent yyy
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my link changes every sec so how to decide whether it is good or busy, is urs not changin every second? all i know when my internet activities is high, my link goes very high and vice versa. so if tis indicate sthg strange , then ive to contact izziman d. arjen, is urs not lik tis or it stabilize?




PS:
who the heck wanto surf laptop in a 100kmph running car anyway! in car, kao lui liao lor. u wanto online in public transport ar? u wan die, go ahead la. if u ask me, tis kind of features go to hell unless target stylish business man ok lar, buttis is not hollywood or usa, izzineT!




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@ahpek - driving at 100km/h in my car consume alot of petrol. thought can really surf, but only in certain areas. trying out the statement in the ads.
yup i did ask him f**k off from my car. waste my petrol. saman come who gonna pay wor. somemore now near raya.
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post Sep 12 2007, 11:21 AM

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HAHAHA... REALLY PITY HIM @.@
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post Sep 12 2007, 01:04 PM

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wafeel

ya same with urs, the link speed show in the iBurst terminal changing every second.
what i mean is when u 'save target as' from certain link, sometimes it went up to 100kB/s - 120kB/s.however, another link shows only 40kB/s to 70 kB/s. so i think that's depends on that server itself.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Sep 12 2007, 11:21 AM)
HAHAHA... REALLY PITY HIM @.@
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well sometimes we need to do shit in order to test shit biggrin.gif


QUOTE(arjen_robben81 @ Sep 12 2007, 01:04 PM)
wafeel

ya same with urs, the link speed show in the iBurst terminal changing every second.
what i mean is when u 'save target as' from certain link, sometimes it went up to 100kB/s - 120kB/s.however, another link shows only 40kB/s to 70 kB/s. so i think that's depends on that server itself.
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has anybody tried downloading the same file from the same server(rapidshare best example) during different times of the day ? eg every 6 hours ? or something like that to test ?

so far the review for izzi has been 50/50 which doesn't seem to give a strong indication of their service performance..
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post Sep 12 2007, 08:29 PM

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jinx,

wat streamyx technology today is abit dated but tested n proven tho. wired, but sometime unstable ,some complain about it. n the service is 3rd class eg, theyr extremely slow at adding ports, seemingly complacent becus they know custs don hv choice. so ppl desperately want alternative ,some r go the extent of paying >rm 100 for 384kb/s 3G celcom.

technology don come cheap thts one downside about iburst (still, i think its priced fairly for 'new' tech in msia) if u question of its reliability the below must speak for sthg

quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iburst
"iBurst is commercially available in ten countries: Australia, South Africa, Azerbaijan, Norway, Ireland, Canada, Lebanon, Kenya, Ghana, and USA. Companies in Southeast Europe and the Middle East are also looking to roll out the service."

tht must hv some substance in iburst. so i wud give iburst the benefit of doubt. the closest thing to iburst these days is Wimax and wimax cost is exorbitant.

so far, no 'hellish' experience fr cust. partly the customer based are already there (klang valley) but funny, not many post feedback here.

honestly, after paying premium price, of cos i expect premium speed. it don hit rock bottom speed. i only complain if it drops below premium speed. u know wht i mean?


PS: im not an agent, i just inject hope into new tech smile.gif if this newtech is really reliable, its a real blessing to msia custs

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 12 2007, 03:26 PM)
has anybody tried downloading the same file from the same server(rapidshare best example) during different times of the day ? eg every 6 hours ? or something like that to test ?

so far the review for izzi has been 50/50 which doesn't seem to give a strong indication of their service performance..
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My very rough test results seem to indicate that no which rapidshare server nor time of day, the maximum speed achievable is around 30-35KB/s. This compares very poorly to my 1mbps line (upgraded to 1.5mbps) which is capable of hitting 160KB/s consistently. It's very poor network performance, if you ask me.

And of course, I'm sure you've read another post of mine earlier where I complained to their network people about my poor speeds (averaging around 600kbps to their own speedtest server) and got the reply that "performance is on a best effort basis". Needless to say, that technician got some nice words from me. I mean, if you can't guarantee at least 80-85% speed within your own network, I think there's little hope that you will achieve at least that performance outside of your network.

So far my experience has been below average; value for money, I'd have to say not, for the premium price I'm paying mad.gif The service started off quite promisingly, but once they added more subscribers to their network, its performance has degraded, IMHO.

As for the technology being deployed in other countries, you will notice that it's offered in the majority of those countries where there's a lot of rural areas, where wired technology is not deployed due to the cost factor. So, people sign up because it's the only service available, not that it's necessarily better than its wired alternative. And those countries have wide open spaces where the signal travels much better compared to a concrete jungle like KL where there are numerous obstacles to efficient signal propagation.

Do your own research on the iBurst technology in online forums. I've done my own research and have concluded that it's not the best thing since sliced bread; some online forums will tell you this too. I just subscribed for the heck of it; and I intend to return the modem and cancel the service upon the three month anniversary to get my money back; so far this has been a rather expensive and unsatisfactory experiment on my part. Others may have a different opinion though.
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unstable connection on izzi tonite. speed only 100 to 600kb/s even signal strength is 100%. dun know what happen.i cant even play online game.sigz.. hopefully only tonite or else i will terminate the contract in the 3rd month.
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Sep 12 2007, 08:29 PM)
honestly, after paying premium price, of cos i expect premium speed. it don hit rock bottom speed. i only complain if it drops below premium speed. u know wht i mean?
PS: im not an agent, i just inject hope into new tech smile.gif if this newtech is really reliable, its a real blessing to msia custs
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yeah man.. i understand you tongue.gif

QUOTE(wr6969 @ Sep 12 2007, 08:59 PM)

Do your own research on the iBurst technology in online forums.  I've done my own research and have concluded that it's not the best thing since sliced bread; some online forums will tell you this too.  I just subscribed for the heck of it; and I intend to return the modem and cancel the service upon the three month anniversary to get my money back; so far this has been a rather expensive and unsatisfactory experiment on my part.  Others may have a different opinion though.
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well like they say, different people , different location different outcome...
but mostly i'm just following the outcome.. good review vs bad review..


QUOTE(arjen_robben81 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:37 PM)
unstable connection on izzi tonite. speed only 100 to 600kb/s even signal strength is 100%. dun know what happen.i cant even play online game.sigz.. hopefully only tonite or else i will terminate the contract in the 3rd month.
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well thats speaks alot.. tongue.gif

when can malaysia broadband actually "mature" in terms of speed and reliability ? any guesses ? or will my next generation enjoy those ?
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i actually wonder how is wimax relatively perform compare to iburst. but if in terms of performance/cost, surely highest of all broadband service.

if iburst isnt performing up to par, then theres no all-rounder broadband isp tht can provide fair satisfaction i suppose . maxis bb puts a heavy stress on my heart daily, the extra 33% i pay for iburst over maxis is a personal health insurance i suppose.

in 1mb category, tht leaves streamyx to hv good performance/cost ratio i suppose . at least for stability, its wired. fair performance/medium cost. i guess wireless will alwez b wireless eh lol

is there any other technology thts really superb anywher in other country? whts singapore using, wifi or wimax? i know their country is signal covered. unaware of performance tho.




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connection til now stil low, wondering y. any izzi users here facing the same problem?
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Sep 13 2007, 01:39 AM)
i actually wonder how is wimax relatively perform compare to iburst. but if in terms of performance/cost, surely highest of all broadband service.

if iburst isnt performing up to par, then theres no all-rounder broadband isp tht can provide fair satisfaction i suppose . maxis bb puts a heavy stress on my heart daily, the extra 33% i pay for iburst over maxis is a personal health insurance i suppose.

in 1mb category, tht leaves streamyx to hv good performance/cost ratio i suppose . at least for stability, its wired. fair performance/medium cost. i guess wireless will alwez b wireless eh lol

is there any other technology thts really superb anywher in other country? whts singapore using, wifi or wimax? i know their country is signal covered. unaware of performance tho.
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Ultimately, for most of us, after having tried out wireless technology, a wired solution is better than a wireless one, especially where latency is a factor. Reliability of service with wireless services is a big factor also; introduce a lot of noise (deliberately or otherwise) into the radio spectrum and you will screw up any wireless service. So, if Streamyx is indeed available and stable in your area, why would you want to change? It's still the best of the worst wink.gif

And I dare say that WiMax equipment will be expensive due to the lower volume of production of devices involved. At least in the initial stages, until the service gains traction and cost of hardware can be reduced through bigger volume production and sales. Look at the cost of hardware for Izzi now - although they say it's free, if you had half a brain, you would know you are actually paying for the hardware vmad.gif

And Singapore doesn't really need a "cutting edge" wireless offering due to its size. WiFi and UMTS/HSDPA is more than enough to serve the population there. After all, there is no "rural" areas in Singapore, and since it's a concrete jungle, literally speaking, wireless signal propagation will be a nightmare for the RF engineers.

QUOTE(arjen_robben81 @ Sep 13 2007, 09:22 AM)
connection til now stil low, wondering y. any izzi users here facing the same problem?
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Yes, this is my experience also. It starts off good, then it quickly deteriorates. In my case, I had around one month of reasonable surfing/downloading speed; nowadays, I rarely switch the modem on at all. My Celcom3G connection gives me much better performance all round, as well as better reliability and consistency.

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