QUOTE(alien2003 @ Nov 10 2019, 11:53 PM)
I tot Rashford been saying how Ole as manager is going to improve his composure and finishing.....Maybe he could learn from Greenwood instead.English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Burnley 0 Man Utd 2
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Nov 10 2019, 11:57 PM
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Nov 11 2019, 12:00 AM
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Nov 11 2019, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 10 2019, 11:52 PM) And how is lingard involvement in that increase? FT 135% increase after AP came off, lingard involvement 55% from the increase. so technically play lingard or no AM better than playing AP in that position.Like i said, im not arguing who is better. But more than enough chances given to mata, but he failed countless time. Im okay not playing AP but we don't really have any option Chances created increased by 0.23 per minute, which is crazy high after AP was subbed. |
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Nov 11 2019, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Nov 10 2019, 11:57 PM) I tot Rashford been saying how Ole as manager is going to improve his composure and finishing.....Maybe he could learn from Greenwood instead. Sometimes some of them will have the killer/poacher instinct in front of the goal (eg: RVN, Owen, RVP) while some might not.I guess Rash fall into the latter category. But the return of Martial do means that he can be more lethal playing from the left flank. |
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Nov 11 2019, 12:02 AM
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Just enjoy it lads. Rashford is not pure striker, if he can build up from this season up & down.He definitely improve his finishing.He is far from finish article.
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Nov 11 2019, 12:02 AM
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Well, knowing McTom is injured, and still start him.
And now it became worse. Won the game, may be lost the most important player for several matches. Or even month. Oh, blah x 3. Negativity from me. Sorry Mr.Saint there. |
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Nov 11 2019, 12:09 AM
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5* performance. the scoreline is abit flattering for brighton. easily a trashing.
rashford getting more and more unclinical. his goal nearly shoot out as well. lucky tiang bounce in haha. kesian lingard, got 2 open chance, no ppl pass to him but to rashford. fred has his best game in my opinion. he shows he can pass in this game. wonder, how he always pass to ads board previously. after 2 weeks, young starts. This post has been edited by IpohGuyz: Nov 11 2019, 12:09 AM |
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Nov 11 2019, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 11 2019, 12:01 AM) FT 135% increase after AP came off, lingard involvement 55% from the increase. so technically play lingard or no AM better than playing AP in that position. Well thank u bro for providing those data.Chances created increased by 0.23 per minute, which is crazy high after AP was subbed. But someone will still tag me as a negative-based-on-nothing person. At least I know I am right. Whew ~ |
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Nov 11 2019, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 11 2019, 12:01 AM) FT 135% increase after AP came off, lingard involvement 55% from the increase. so technically play lingard or no AM better than playing AP in that position. Good then. He did he job as an impact sub. But stats can be misleading sometimes.Chances created increased by 0.23 per minute, which is crazy high after AP was subbed. We are up 3-1 by the time Lingard came in. That allows him to attack more, but the frenzy last for like what, 5 minutes? You compare AP as a starter and Lingard as a sub. I wouldn't want to over analyze lingard performance given that he was a sub. He is suppose to make that kind of impact. 55% involvement, that includes normal passing. he got no goal and no assist yet this season. That's very bad for an AM |
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Nov 11 2019, 12:41 AM
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So quiet. Everyone busy 11.11 instead of arguing.
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Nov 11 2019, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 11 2019, 12:14 AM) Good then. He did he job as an impact sub. But stats can be misleading sometimes. stats were recorded for 24 minutes of play. There are no player ratings included from opta, only the stats, you draw your own conclusions. lingard wasn't an impact sub, he just did not stop the flow of the game and was more direct. I'd rather trust the stats than my eyes, at least the stats wont lie to me after a drink or two.We are up 3-1 by the time Lingard came in. That allows him to attack more, but the frenzy last for like what, 5 minutes? You compare AP as a starter and Lingard as a sub. I wouldn't want to over analyze lingard performance given that he was a sub. He is suppose to make that kind of impact. 55% involvement, that includes normal passing. he got no goal and no assist yet this season. That's very bad for an AM AWB was slower than usual in this match and less distance covered, i think he is carrying a knock or is tired. He needs a rest. |
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Nov 11 2019, 01:03 AM
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Stat can be misleading. If you follow stat, John O' Shea is the best keeper in the world. 100% clean sheet.
I'm not taking anyone side here. For me Mata is a good playmaker and experienced at that as well. But he lack the energy, pace and physicality that can be provided by Pereira. Both have pros and cons. And both have their suitable time to be played. And tonight my only bone with Pereira is he like to drift too much to the left and disturb the flow of Rashford and Martial. A good plus for him tonight is he seems to gel very well with Fred. Worked together nicely to clear balls and stop opponents. Overall, very good performance by everyone. And for the Brighton goal, I can't really blame anyone, that guy is really freaking tall. #GlazersOut |
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Nov 11 2019, 01:07 AM
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once pogba return from injury, he should start ahead of AP/lingard/mata. Keep Mctominay and fred. Problem settle.
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Nov 11 2019, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 11 2019, 12:46 AM) stats were recorded for 24 minutes of play. There are no player ratings included from opta, only the stats, you draw your own conclusions. lingard wasn't an impact sub, he just did not stop the flow of the game and was more direct. I'd rather trust the stats than my eyes, at least the stats wont lie to me after a drink or two. Yes for 24 minutes of play. That's why i said I wouldn't want to over analyze lingard's performance. Stats wont lie, but sometimes it doesn't show the whole picture. But if you are saying Lingard should start ahead AP, then maybe you should take a look at the stats againAWB was slower than usual in this match and less distance covered, i think he is carrying a knock or is tired. He needs a rest. |
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Nov 11 2019, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 11 2019, 01:03 AM) Stat can be misleading. If you follow stat, John O' Shea is the best keeper in the world. 100% clean sheet. Also corners! AP corners is so much better than anyone else in the team.I'm not taking anyone side here. For me Mata is a good playmaker and experienced at that as well. But he lack the energy, pace and physicality that can be provided by Pereira. Both have pros and cons. And both have their suitable time to be played. And tonight my only bone with Pereira is he like to drift too much to the left and disturb the flow of Rashford and Martial. A good plus for him tonight is he seems to gel very well with Fred. Worked together nicely to clear balls and stop opponents. Overall, very good performance by everyone. And for the Brighton goal, I can't really blame anyone, that guy is really freaking tall. #GlazersOut |
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Nov 11 2019, 01:28 AM
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Nov 11 2019, 01:31 AM
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Nov 11 2019, 01:33 AM
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Nov 11 2019, 01:41 AM
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lol
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Nov 11 2019, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 11 2019, 01:03 AM) Stat can be misleading. If you follow stat, John O' Shea is the best keeper in the world. 100% clean sheet. The forward 3 never lack of energy and pace.I'm not taking anyone side here. For me Mata is a good playmaker and experienced at that as well. But he lack the energy, pace and physicality that can be provided by Pereira. Both have pros and cons. And both have their suitable time to be played. And tonight my only bone with Pereira is he like to drift too much to the left and disturb the flow of Rashford and Martial. A good plus for him tonight is he seems to gel very well with Fred. Worked together nicely to clear balls and stop opponents. Overall, very good performance by everyone. And for the Brighton goal, I can't really blame anyone, that guy is really freaking tall. #GlazersOut They need a creative no.10 to create a more balance combination. I don't want to drag in Lingard. But provided the starting 3 is within Rashford + Martial + James + Greenwood, then Mata is certainly a better choice. This prove it why. https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2019/11/9...solskjaer-right Yes he is lacked of pace, but he know how to run into position and play 1-2 well when we near the box. That is what lack by us when opponent is parking the bus. That is also why AP is especially useless in those match, because he dunno how to run, and lack in creativity. Even Fred has created more chance than AP in this match which we has a lot of space. And Fred is playing as a DM. But yes, Mata cannot play every match since he is old. So no way, sometimes we need to play AP. Saying AP and Mata both has pro and cons is acceptable for me. Yet if someone said AP > Mata in the no.10 role, that is absolutely ridiculous. |
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