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post Oct 11 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Oct 11 2019, 09:16 PM)
woodward must be the greatest businessman in the world. our club is in deep shit but he manage to secure world record shirt deal. really wtf
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 11 2019, 09:36 PM)
yalor. who cares result. in this aspect he really very good. relegation form also can get world record deal lol
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Ceh. I thought already got new deal. On a serious note, only a dumb company would break the world record shirt deal. The brand in negative light at the moment, no sane person would be willing to fork out so much money. A struggling team with high possibilities of relegation. World record deal my ass.
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post Oct 12 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Oct 12 2019, 07:55 AM)
The purpose of a sponsorship deal is just for publicity. To sign a "world record" deal in itself is a major publicity item. For me as long as both party claims it, they both get benefit even if the actual money transacted is far less. Just lie....no harm win win.
I'm not surprised this just show with no dough. So basically ada kau kesah with all this. Show me the money when buying players is more important. This year nett spent only 75m which is less than many teams. And definitely shameful if you see the gap we have.
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I don't think a public listed entity can lie that easily. The money trail will show the real figures. The shareholder would certainly question the missing amount from the earnings report. And you have to remember we also have to submit report to EUFA for FFP as well. So a fake deal just for publicity isn't really realistic.
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post Oct 13 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 13 2019, 01:05 PM)
Not bad. But the best situation would be, Glazer's replaced with new owner. Van Der Saar become Chief Executive. And Kayu become Marketing Director.

One can only dream.

And on a different note, JM didn't really want Fred?

Mourinho didn't want Fred
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post Oct 15 2019, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 15 2019, 05:30 PM)
Yes!!! More please!! More.. F Off Glazers!! Please come pak arab.
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post Oct 17 2019, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Oct 16 2019, 11:55 PM)
allegri? are you serious MU fans?

come on now.
- u kick out LVG
- u kick out mourinho

and u expect allegri to improve this shitty MU players?

1. sack ole and just bring back mourinho
2. kick woodward out
3. introduce director of football to backed mourinho
4. sell pogba
5. giv mourinho 3 seasons to fixed MU back to become champion

else., any other than that will make MU become worse until relegated.
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As much as I hate Woodward, I have to admit that he is really good at bringing money into the club. The bigger problem is the Glazers. They have been taking money out of the club and not spending enough money back into the club. I will stand with my stance that the club isn't going to improve no matter what if the Glazers is still at the helm and don't change their attitude toward the club. Not Klopp, not Pep, not Mou, and certainly not Allegri will stand a chance with the way they are running things.
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post Oct 17 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Oct 17 2019, 04:12 PM)
Let's be fair. Glazers did take out a lot of $$$ from the club but did they really stop spending on player? Look at how many players they bought after Ferguson era. The constant change of coach will not help. Each coach will bring their own way and style. The best example is the progress of Rashford. Is he a winger or a forward? The constant change has really hampered his progress. When he started under LVG, he showed so much promise but Mourinho turning him into winger confuses him. We seems to forget that he's just 21 years old and should not have been the main forward for United.

Maybe Ole really does not have the experience but you can't say LVG or Mourinho do not have vast experience but the fans were all impatient and too use to success under Ferguson. I still believe LVG would have transform United into a better team given more time. But fans were all saying he is boring. Fans were saying the same thing about mourinho too.
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They bought player but not the one the that the manager requested. They bought players based on marketability of said player. Not football skill.
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post Oct 17 2019, 06:02 PM

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IIRC correctly, Moyes only got Fellaini. LVG got 3 big names, albeit 2 are on downturns and 1 is not happy to be here. Falcao, Schweinsteiger and Di Maria. Plus Blind and Depay were the player of the year and top scorer from their own league before joining us. Not to mention Luke Shaw who was on the rise was also bought during this time. Another 3 for possible high marketability.

During Mourinho tenure, we have 3 big names -- Zlatan, Pogba, and Sanchez. Add Mkhitaryan for possible high marketability. And I think we all remember how many times Mourinho keep on saying he wants more players but in the end we end up with what we have.

As far as for Ole's, it looks like we are going to a different directions, trying to spend less money overall, while banking on the existing social media recognition from the existing players. And Woodward attitude sums its all up -- the Manchester United brand is is everything. Caring more about the shareholders bottom line instead of the club reputation.

We are no longer a football club first , but a brand to make money for the owners. The more media exposure the better. This is what our team have become.

I don't blame Woody 100% because he is paid by the Glazers and only doing what is instructed by them. That is why we need new owner first, instead of just sacking Woody or Ole.
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post Oct 21 2019, 01:40 AM

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After all the press conference talk, I am disappointed by Liverpool performance. I was hoping for more trashing to drop the stock price even more. But what done is done. This 3-5-2 is a good base to build for the future. It just that some of our defenders are sleeping at the end of the game. And hopefully the Glazers will take the offer by the Saudis.
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post Oct 21 2019, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 21 2019, 01:44 AM)
Problem will return when norwich park bus
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Hopefully Martial is fit by then.
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post Oct 21 2019, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(bansai @ Oct 21 2019, 04:49 PM)
Klopp really joined the right club, he has embraced the "victim" card very well.

Always the victim, never their fault.
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He want to cover malu, before the match he talk kok so much. Ended up almost losing to us.
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post Oct 25 2019, 12:22 AM

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Garner is playing?
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post Oct 25 2019, 02:57 AM

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Very poor performance. Garner played out of position at the left side. Lingard and Mata, non contribution. Substituting Martial and Garner instead of Lingard and Mata. Everyone look lost. Partisan Belgrade played way better.

This is either Ole is a dumb ass, or Ole purposely sabotaging the club to force the club sale. I don't get it at all.

Edit: Is the pitch really that bad? It seems only our players keep on slipping and tumbling around.

This post has been edited by even_steven: Oct 25 2019, 03:01 AM
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post Oct 25 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 25 2019, 10:10 AM)
1) I didn't watch the game last night, but about the substitution. I think OGS made a right decision.
It is not all about on-pitch performance, u need to take fatigue and fitness into consideration as well.
AWB and Martial just get recovered from injury and sicks.
Martial not yet can play 90 mins. While too heavy for AWB to play full 2 matches 90 mins continuously.
Sub them out in 60 mins is correct decision for me.

2) Lingard and Mata not performing, not surprised at all.
Need to replace 6 players in either winter or summer.
Pogba, Mata, Matic, Fred, Lingard, Peirera.
What a huge project .... haiz ...

3) All player ratings report seems praising Brandon Williams, that is good.
May be can even surpassed Shaw if being developed correctly.
Shaw is good but really too prone to injury.

4) Gardner played out of position, not his fault. At least good to finally get experience in first team. Hope tough debut give him strong mentality about what is going on in Manchester United. Hope he can view it in a positive way, where he can actually stand easily in the team if performing well. Providing how shitty our midfielders are except McTom.
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I understand that Martial and AWB is recovering, however with the way the game goes yesterday, Ole should've try to go for the kill earlier. Make the scoreline wider. Reduce the pressure on our player. Should've sub Lingard for Rashford, and replace Mata with Dan James. Then we can have the front pace needed to threaten the opponent side.

Brandon Williams was indeed good but still need to iron out some kinks. Garner was wasted because of played out of position last night. But the sad part is our game is a freaking mess. Like nobody knows what to do. Lack of support, miscommunication, too many sideways and back pass, not enough attempt to beat opponent player. Simply put it, like budak sekolah main bola but with too many side and back passes.

If you watch the match, you can see that Partizan Belgrade played better but no luck. Heck, they are even unlucky two handball in penalty box within a few minutes apart got dismissed by referee. The first handball might be given if a different referee is in charge. Macguire almost twisted his leg kena trick by Soumah. And Asano was very tricky for our defender last night.

All in all poor performance by the team, didn't deserve to win but still win.
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post Oct 25 2019, 04:27 PM

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Ole need to stop playing with a single striker at the moment. With the kind of performance that we have now, we need 2 upfront. Other team striker love to stay in our penalty box whenever they are attacking, but our striker love to stay outside. Heck, usually no one stays in the penalty box when we are attacking.
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post Oct 26 2019, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Oct 26 2019, 12:10 AM)
No VAR meh ?
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Europa no VAR. Same like us last night. If got VAR, might draw 1-1 yesterday.
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post Oct 28 2019, 03:32 AM

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Today is an improvement. Big jump from the last match. Glad that Ole didn't pick Mata and Linggu to start. Young should'nt have started too. Fred is looking like he's getting more and more confident. Hopefully with consistent play time he can improve and become better. McTomato not bad except for the slip up that lead to Norwich goal. And I don't want to say anything about the penalty. Faham2 sendiri la.
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post Oct 29 2019, 02:13 PM

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No matter what, we still need to continue with #GlazersOut.
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post Oct 30 2019, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Oct 30 2019, 07:18 PM)
This news was old, yeah it doesn't change the fact he wants to leave.

The question is who gonna replace him if he leaves with the quality he got not many able to do
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He got quality but never really shown it in our shirt.
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post Oct 31 2019, 01:08 PM

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I didn't even know there's a match last night. How was the team playing?
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post Oct 31 2019, 01:50 PM

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Macguire is not bad but him and Lindelof keep on clashing with each other. Need more communication between the 2 of them.

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