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 The Golden Compass!, 7 December 2007; Ring become Compass?

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post Dec 10 2007, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(herzeleid @ Dec 10 2007, 08:22 AM)
i seriously 100% doubt there will be a great coming war .
even at the climax of the movie which is the ending, i didnt even realised its the climax until the show was coming to the end.

hell its not even half a climax, with withches flying around for 1min, gyptian running for another min
and all of a sudden its over..
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The only climax I got is from imagining Eva Green flying around with me as her "broomstick" brows.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 10:35 AM

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the worst ending ever..
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post Dec 10 2007, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Neiji @ Dec 10 2007, 02:44 AM)
Pls do more research before you say it is obvious will be a sequel...the producer already mentioned the sequel will be depending on financial success of GC.
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Wat research shoud i do since the ending of the movie makes it so darn obvious tat they're gonna make a sequel out of it..Even IF say i dunno tat there's gonna be a sequel(as if.. rolleyes.gif ) tat means da movie is much much more worst..Can anyone even consider that as an ending? shakehead.gif


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post Dec 10 2007, 02:54 PM

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I think this movie is kinda boring... gotta read the book 1st though =/
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post Dec 10 2007, 03:03 PM

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the war part is so so only. but the daemon concept is interesting, your soul is living outside as daemon and will appear like an animal which resemble your character. Let's say you are loyal then your daemon will appear as dog. If you slap your daemon means you are slapping your soul ... haha.

also the ice bear is cute ... ya I know they suppose to be fierce and strong, but still I think they are cute. wish I can get one as pet tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 03:11 PM

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7/10 for me since i like fantasy movies
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post Dec 10 2007, 03:35 PM

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Any1 here if got go to Popular, check the graphic story GC. U'll find out tat the ending is so different from the movie.

In movie, after Lyra being caught, she's taken to the King. But in the book, the King only show up at ending.

In book also, it's state at Dr Asriel meet with Mdm (4get the name), but the ending in the movie juz show tat they go to find him...

The book i mention is not the real book, it's the book based on the movie.
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post Dec 10 2007, 04:00 PM

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I'm going to watch this wednesday. I wanna check out how bad this movie is tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Dec 10 2007, 03:03 PM)
the war part is so so only. but the daemon concept is interesting, your soul is living outside as daemon and will appear like an animal which resemble your character. Let's say you are loyal then your daemon will appear as dog. If you slap your daemon means you are slapping your soul ... haha.

also the ice bear is cute ... ya I know they suppose to be fierce and strong, but still I think they are cute. wish I can get one as pet tongue.gif
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war part so so only ??
guess u need to watch more war flicks ..

this war scene is soooooooooo damn crappy that it couldnt even qualify as a war scene doh.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(herzeleid @ Dec 10 2007, 05:21 PM)
war part so so only ??
guess u need to watch more war flicks ..

this war scene is soooooooooo damn crappy that it couldnt even qualify as a war scene  doh.gif
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aiya ... dun be so picky icon_idea.gif I've seen war scene that is even worse. This one is ok ok liao.
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post Dec 10 2007, 06:38 PM

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Watched this, but a bit let down though. The battle scenes are too short and end too quickly... At least it's better than "The Seeker" in my opinion yawn.gif

IS THAT ALL YOU'VE GOT? HUH? IS THAT ALL? IS THAT ALL?
Yeah, that's all tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 07:13 PM

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wow.........the best part of the show is when the teddy bear wack the mouth off the other bear. the rest? sucks........................ i thought it will be as good as lord of the ring because they have all the best actor=.="
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post Dec 10 2007, 09:55 PM

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Firstly I think its not a bad movie. In fact its quite good except the ending which left everyone rclxub.gif . Since I have read, the book I know the climax of the book was completely left out. Its a strange decision because it was filmed. Just look at the earlier trailer and you see that some really important parts were left out at the end. The ending totally spoilt the movie because its like the fellowship reached the mines of Moria and it ends. The studio screw up big time on this decision. I guess they did not want the movie ending in sad and dark note since its Christmas time. So what went wrong with this movie other than the ending?

1) Marketing. From the makers of LOTR. This really mislead a lot of people and they expect GC to be another LOTR. If you have read the book GC, you know its a different type of fantasy story. Its fantasy adventure mix with some sci-fi and religion concept. So most of the people will feel the movie sux because it does not have war or big battle scenes. Its the curse of LOTR. Narnia and Eragon suffered the same fate. OKlah I admit Eragon deserved the fate. whistling.gif

2) Hype. The book is very good and won some awards but its not as popular like Harry Potter or LOTR. There will not be people who camp outside the cinema just to watch the movie like the Harry Potter and Star Wars series. Thats why I dont think it will does not have the box office appeal of Harry Potter or LOTR.

3) Budget. The movie is grossly overbudget. What did they spend 180 million on? The special effects was good but not stunning. The sets were good and again its not stunning. Must have spent all the budget on Mr Bond and Nicole Kidman's salary. A 70 or 80 million budget movie should be more reasonable. After all, its only the first book. The studio screw up big time on this again.

4) Timing. Its Chrismas time in US and you release a anti-Christian movie during this period. If that is not suicide, I don't know what is?

5) Storyline. Dark Materials trilogy is a very complicated book because it touches on religion, science, etc. If you dumb down all this element and just concentrate on the adventure of Lyra, the whole story does not make much sense if you have not read the book. Thats why most of my friend who saw it does not really understand the storyline.

6) Story flow. This movie went too fast from one place to another. It should have slowed down and concentrate more on character development. I know some people find it already too slow but you must let people feel for the characters. Audience will care about them and want to know what happened to them at the end. I think its the editing problem. Probably the directors cut of the DVD will be better.

For those who wants to know what was left out and do not intent to read the book, read on and I will briefly tell you what the ending should be because with the weak box-office, I doubt the second and third part will be made.

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post Dec 11 2007, 06:25 AM

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Bravo for the explanation man.. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif rclxms.gif

Luckily ur not those ppl who BLINDLY supported the movie by saying the movie is 'good'..anyways its good tat u stand neutral but i think u still stand abit to the supporters group.. happy.gif

No worries though cuz ur da 1st to straighten things up bout da true journey of the story..thanx mate..
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nice explanation there oucheev, i never thought the story was so deep, they should have included that part in the first installment of the movie...
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post Dec 11 2007, 12:47 PM

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i just wonder, they have 2 EXPENSIVE ACTORS/ACTRESS

but daniel craig like acted for less than 15min??? wow........( they are trying to lurn the daniel fans)

NIcole Kidman( also not much, maybe less than 20-30min)??

why cant they ask dacota danning or annasophia robb to act as the girl?=.-
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post Dec 11 2007, 02:44 PM

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I watched this movie a week ago. It was a terrible experiance even i though was dating Angelina Jolie, this movie doesn't even deserve a thread.

The movie has completely moronic storyline, terrible plot flow and lousy polar bear as a guardian. I see the girl saved the bear more times than the other way round. Pathetic .

I see some utterly plotless presence in some characters though. And the bear's armor was rather useless.

I give it a 3/10 for the cute little girl and easy going story for children.

This post has been edited by songhan89: Dec 11 2007, 02:45 PM
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post Dec 11 2007, 02:53 PM

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LOTR is talked about greed of human nature and the corruption power that make ppl suffer (there're sources say he hinted Nazi here).

His dark materials trilogy is more on telling the horror of having religion control on our thought, make us do not questions on universe, blind the children mind by saying this is only the decision from God and nothing else. The ultimate objective of religion is to make us sinless, but ask yourself, don't you become mindless zombie when all the sin was taken away from you?
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QUOTE(Reimao @ Dec 11 2007, 06:25 AM)
Bravo for the explanation man.. thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif  rclxms.gif

Luckily ur not those ppl who BLINDLY supported the movie by saying the movie is 'good'..anyways its good tat u stand neutral but i think u still stand abit to the supporters group.. happy.gif

No worries though cuz ur da 1st to straighten things up bout da true journey of the story..thanx mate..
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Yup I guess you're right, I am a bit biased becaused I love the book. Anyway, I don't think the second book is movie material because it deals with lots of conversation and hardly any action except at the end. So, if you think the first movie is boring, the second movie will be worse if they decide to make another movie. Anyway I think hollywood screw up all this children's book by selling them as the next LOTR type movies with all sorts of battles and wars. Look how they sell Narnia as something like LOTR. In the Narnia books, the battles and wars were usually only about one paragraph.
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post Dec 13 2007, 08:35 AM

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Ok, I just watch yesterday. I haven't read the book yet. And surprise surprise, I find the movie very good actually. The flow is good, the story is good and the ending is good. I'm not sure why you guys said its bad. And its very easy to understand.

Looking forward to second instalment but i doubt it since majority find it not nice. Another thing is, cinema.com.my is 4 star. smile.gif

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