QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Apr 14 2021, 09:21 AM)
How many channels in total does Sirius Satellite TV have?
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Apr 14 2021, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 14 2021, 06:16 PM) 15. By June 2021 should have 30 channels.. nexona88, feed2doorsmhbm, and 2 others liked this post
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Apr 15 2021, 02:31 AM
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Huh, they lessesn their channel numbers?
What happened to channels like CNN, E+, National Geographic, Diva Channel, WWE etc.? They should have kept those 30 original channels in their channel list and added this new 15 channels so that the amount of channels in total comes to 45 channels. |
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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Apr 15 2021, 02:31 AM) Huh, they lessesn their channel numbers? Let me tell you about channel cost and its management of the bandwidth : Each SD channel is about 1.5 -2.0 Mbps and HD channel is about 4.0-6.0 Mbps . The SES-12 Satellite carries a 54 Mhz capacity per transponder which is equivalent to 71.2 Mbps. For Sirius TV to start test broadcast at 11-15 channel on HD , will require around 60 Mbps - 90 Mbps...which is more than 1 transponder. Therefore we need to throttle down the bandwidth utilization to remain at 1 transponder and maintain the signal quality by having a mix with SD and HD channel. Adding more channel will not help. The cost of satellite transponder is not cheap and runs in the millions and thus the reason not many company willing to consider this satellite platform. Therefore ..those unnecessary channel or if there is any mediocre channel , will need to be remove or not included at all. It will be a waste of capacity and costly as well.What happened to channels like CNN, E+, National Geographic, Diva Channel, WWE etc.? They should have kept those 30 original channels in their channel list and added this new 15 channels so that the amount of channels in total comes to 45 channels. myxery, izwanikhsan, and 2 others liked this post
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Apr 20 2021, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(Sirius TV @ Apr 18 2021, 09:04 AM) Let me tell you about channel cost and its management of the bandwidth : Each SD channel is about 1.5 -2.0 Mbps and HD channel is about 4.0-6.0 Mbps . The SES-12 Satellite carries a 54 Mhz capacity per transponder which is equivalent to 71.2 Mbps. For Sirius TV to start test broadcast at 11-15 channel on HD , will require around 60 Mbps - 90 Mbps...which is more than 1 transponder. Therefore we need to throttle down the bandwidth utilization to remain at 1 transponder and maintain the signal quality by having a mix with SD and HD channel. Adding more channel will not help. The cost of satellite transponder is not cheap and runs in the millions and thus the reason not many company willing to consider this satellite platform. Therefore ..those unnecessary channel or if there is any mediocre channel , will need to be remove or not included at all. It will be a waste of capacity and costly as well. Too many FunBox channels isn't going to be satisfied, might as well replace with other decent channel. |
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Apr 21 2021, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(Sirius TV @ Apr 18 2021, 09:04 AM) Let me tell you about channel cost and its management of the bandwidth : Each SD channel is about 1.5 -2.0 Mbps and HD channel is about 4.0-6.0 Mbps . The SES-12 Satellite carries a 54 Mhz capacity per transponder which is equivalent to 71.2 Mbps. For Sirius TV to start test broadcast at 11-15 channel on HD , will require around 60 Mbps - 90 Mbps...which is more than 1 transponder. Therefore we need to throttle down the bandwidth utilization to remain at 1 transponder and maintain the signal quality by having a mix with SD and HD channel. Adding more channel will not help. The cost of satellite transponder is not cheap and runs in the millions and thus the reason not many company willing to consider this satellite platform. Therefore ..those unnecessary channel or if there is any mediocre channel , will need to be remove or not included at all. It will be a waste of capacity and costly as well. Thanks Sirius TV for the explanation. So now the "million dollar" questions here is: - How is Sirius TV going to attract more customers onto its platform in today's era where majority of the Malaysians today are primarily consumes content online more than TV? - How Sirius TV could "stand out" from others in terms of its content/channels offerings in this already-competitive market, plus with current and upcoming launches of new OTT services, like Disney+? - What would be the primary target audience for Sirius TV of its channel offerings, for now? Vernacular content (Malay, Chinese, Indian...) or international content (English, Japanese,...)? If it's both, then it's gonna involve A LOT of money and manpower., from acquiring to producing content.... Leasing satellite transponders aren't cheap, and overall operating costs could easily goes millions. Yes, the one-off RM299, no contract, and then "RM20 for 30 days" offering is indeed an unique selling point to consumers compared to other pay TV operators. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to the quality content. If viewers finds that Sirius TV's offerings doesn't suit them well, they could just stop paying RM20/month and eventually goes back to wherever they come from... What can Sirius TV do to convince its viewers to keep paying RM20 per month (without contract option) to keep the money flowing?  How would Sirius TV do, to at least be able to cover the capital cost, cuz it seems to me that this would be a difficult business to sustain in the long run... Acquire rights to more premium channels/content to attractive more viewers into the platform? That will be a "gamble" that easily involves millions, which is not everyone dare to go down that path. "Go slowly", you say? Well, how slow can you go before money is running out? Lots of planning needs to be done...? Anyway, it will be a tough road to go through for not just Sirius TV, but even to any potential/upcoming pay TV service in Malaysia. What to do? Malaysians are "spoiled" by Astro.  *I'm just "throwing out" questions only... no need to be so serious to answer them...  ---- Talking about bitrate, alternatively, maybe could consider to throttle the overall bitrate only when ALL of the SD/HD channels are nearly fully utilises the total 71.2Mbps bandwidth in the 12595MHz transponder? Like what Sirius TV said before...: QUOTE(Sirius TV @ Jan 19 2021, 08:53 AM) At the moment , it does not matter on bandwidth saving as we have more than sufficient capacity on the 1 transponder at 54 Mhz providing only 12-13 SD channels and 1 HD Channel when we launch. Certain IRD Box provided by the Channel owner are H.264 in spec , thus the reason why we need both H264 and H265. That's back then. Sooner or later, bandwidth aren't gonna enough as more number of channels increases. And viewers aren't gonna like watching bad picture quality in low bitrates. Like I said before, if Sirius TV would to broadcast all channels in HEVC video codec onto the transponder, then it will be much more bandwidth savings compared to H.264 now... But maybe things aren't as simple as it seems. We'll see how it goes first la, cuz until now Sirius TV is still on test transmission. |
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QUOTE(Sirius TV @ Apr 18 2021, 09:04 AM) Let me tell you about channel cost and its management of the bandwidth : Each SD channel is about 1.5 -2.0 Mbps and HD channel is about 4.0-6.0 Mbps . The SES-12 Satellite carries a 54 Mhz capacity per transponder which is equivalent to 71.2 Mbps. For Sirius TV to start test broadcast at 11-15 channel on HD , will require around 60 Mbps - 90 Mbps...which is more than 1 transponder. Therefore we need to throttle down the bandwidth utilization to remain at 1 transponder and maintain the signal quality by having a mix with SD and HD channel. Adding more channel will not help. The cost of satellite transponder is not cheap and runs in the millions and thus the reason not many company willing to consider this satellite platform. Therefore ..those unnecessary channel or if there is any mediocre channel , will need to be remove or not included at all. It will be a waste of capacity and costly as well. If the in house channel can be broadcasted in HEVC. I guess 3-4mbps should be nice spot. If news channel 3-3.5mbps should enough. For variety channel 4mbps HEVC should have better quality than mytv HD quality. |
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 Seems like A**** have start promoting their updated package. To target sirius and mytv. For the first time i see they compare to other service This post has been edited by Fazrien97: Apr 21 2021, 08:18 AM |
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Apr 21 2021, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Apr 21 2021, 08:13 AM) Seems like A**** have start promoting their updated package. To target sirius and mytv. For the first time i see they compare to other service  |
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 21 2021, 09:24 AM) The irony that only 4 HD channels is available by default, 6 more need to purchase the top-up. My opinion S seems to be the winner with new content  while M & A have similar contents, A with regular recycled contents ,but highly priced:cool2:This post has been edited by smileguy: Apr 21 2021, 10:02 AM doubleM2 liked this post
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 21 2021, 09:24 AM) The irony that only 4 HD channels is available by default, 6 more need to purchase the top-up. Sirius need to have at least 5 HD channels. (Non shopping channels) to counter attack the N*** |
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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Apr 21 2021, 10:03 AM) Sirius need to have at least 5 HD channels. (Non shopping channels) to counter attack the N*** I think thats possible cos they already have 3  |
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Clearly Sirius is the winner.
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25 Apr 2021 Frequency: 12595MHz | Polarity: Horizontal | Symbol rate: 45000 | Satellite: SES-12 | Orbital Position: 95°E Before you read further, do note that I am well aware that Sirius TV broadcasts is still on testing phase, therefore some technical hiccups here and there is expected. The purpose of this review post is meant for those who "curious" and wants to keep up to date on the latest happenings before the official launch only. Do refer to my previous reviews on their test broadcasts: 19 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100345185 23 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100390432 26 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100417107 29 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100453909 5 April 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100524056 ----------------------------------------------------------- Sirius TV's in-house Malay channel, Seri, is now in HD quality. Video: H.264 6Mbps Constant | Audio: MP2 64kbps Stereo   *click/tap images to view in original resolution MediaInfo for Seri (HD) channel: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Seri appears to be the only channel on Sirius TV right now that has EPG (Electronic Programme Guide). However, the EPG data is not accurate as it appears to me that the broadcast guys have mistakenly set the EPG data that was meant for the Drama Channel, as Seri channel. As some of you know, "Drama Channel" is mainly showing Indonesian TV series and movies. So, if you're curious on what programmes that Drama Channel offers, I copy pasted the EPG data as text file here: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Meanwhile, here's the MediaInfo for Drama Channel: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Video/Audio quality For demo purposes only, here's a random sample of how the channel look like, and sounds like below. I hope Sirius TV don't hate me ya  ---------------- Here's a complete list of TV channels that Sirius TV offers on its on-going test transmission: As of 25 April 2021
"*" = based on bitrate graph | "**" = based on MediaInfo data Here's the bitrate graph of the TS Capture for 2 minutes. Filtered view to show only VPID (video) and APID (audio) tracks. Click/tap the image to view in higher resolution.   I don't understand why Sirius TV set the audio bitrate for Seri channel as 64kbps, which sounds very terrible for MP2 audio codec. I guess is because they "overlooked" it? Consider increase it to 192kbps maybe? I also notice the inconsistent bitrates being used for SPI channels (FilmBox Arthouse, FightBox, DocuBox, Gametoon, Fast & FunBox). Not sure is it because that's what SPI provides to Sirius TV, or Sirius TV just throttle the bitrate for the channels? Cuz yes, I do notice that the HD video quality for SPI channels is bad, except FilmBox Arthouse where the channel is in SD, and it looks just like what SD channel should look like, so I got no comment about that. QUOTE(Sirius TV @ Apr 18 2021, 09:04 AM) Therefore we need to throttle down the bandwidth utilization to remain at 1 transponder and maintain the signal quality by having a mix with SD and HD channel. Adding more channel will not help. The cost of satellite transponder is not cheap and runs in the millions and thus the reason not many company willing to consider this satellite platform. Therefore ..those unnecessary channel or if there is any mediocre channel , will need to be remove or not included at all. It will be a waste of capacity and costly as well. I agree on this point though... After been watching SPI channels occasionally, I find that SPI channels are targeted among niche audiences in Malaysia. What I am saying is, I "predict" that only a minority of viewers would enjoy watching content from SPI channels... An obvious sign that the channels is not gonna "last long" in the platform? QUOTE(Sirius TV @ Apr 14 2021, 07:45 PM) By June 2021 should have 30 channels..  8 HD channels, 3 SD channels, 0 radio channels  With the current video bitrate usage now for the 11 channels now, bandwidth used now is about 45Mbps already. Out of the of 71Mbps, there's a remaining of 26Mbps left. I wonder how Sirius TV gonna fit 19 more TV channels with the remaining 26Mbps, if you demand for better video/audio quality? Uh oh.... - Broadcast all channels in HEVC?  - Reduce video bitrate or downgrade some of the channels from HD to SD?  - Change satellite modulation technique from DVB-S2 QPSK to DVB-S2 8PSK as well as the FEC, to accommodate more bandwidth (~80-110Mbps), but sacrificing satellite signal robustness (means you will lose satellite signal faster during heavy rain/bad weather). To compensate that, use bigger size satellite dish (>75cm). - Add 2-3 more transponders? 💸💸💸💸 |
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Apr 25 2021, 05:26 PM) With the current video bitrate usage now for the 11 channels now, bandwidth used now is about 45Mbps already. Out of the of 71Mbps, there's a remaining of 26Mbps left. could be 19 radio channels instead, else the "Radio" section on the channels list would be useless. I wonder how Sirius TV gonna fit 19 more TV channels with the remaining 26Mbps, if you demand for better video/audio quality? Uh oh.... - Broadcast all channels in HEVC? - Reduce video bitrate or downgrade some of the channels from HD to SD? - Change satellite modulation technique from DVB-S2 QPSK to DVB-S2 8PSK as well as the FEC, to accommodate more bandwidth (~80-110Mbps), but sacrificing satellite signal robustness (means you will lose satellite signal faster during heavy rain/bad weather). To compensate that, use bigger size satellite dish (>75cm). - Add 2-3 more transponders? 💸💸💸💸  In comparison, the other prepaid satellite has 20 radio channels. This post has been edited by Qash-M: Apr 25 2021, 07:44 PM |
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Later compare the quality against my system when Leeds play Man United at 9pm - prematch now
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 25 2021, 07:41 PM) could be 19 radio channels instead, else the "Radio" section on the channels list would be useless. Errr... I don't think Sirius TV should consider focusing on offering radio channels on its TV platform at this moment. In comparison, the other prepaid satellite has 20 radio channels. I would rather see them focus more on getting more nice-to-watch channels instead. Those never-seen-before pay TV channels among Malaysians, or premium channels that only offers on Unifi TV (previously known as "HyppTV") to being offered on Sirius TV may be an added advantage. |
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Apr 25 2021, 05:26 PM) Sirius TV Test Broadcast SERI and Sirius Media is thier own in house channel. Should no problem if it broadcast in HEVC. Or it still in test mode. Hope this will air in HEVC25 Apr 2021 Frequency: 12595MHz | Polarity: Horizontal | Symbol rate: 45000 | Satellite: SES-12 | Orbital Position: 95°E Before you read further, do note that I am well aware that Sirius TV broadcasts is still on testing phase, therefore some technical hiccups here and there is expected. The purpose of this review post is meant for those who "curious" and wants to keep up to date on the latest happenings before the official launch only. Do refer to my previous reviews on their test broadcasts: 19 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100345185 23 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100390432 26 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100417107 29 March 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100453909 5 April 2021: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=100524056 ----------------------------------------------------------- Sirius TV's in-house Malay channel, Seri, is now in HD quality. Video: H.264 6Mbps Constant | Audio: MP2 64kbps Stereo *click/tap images to view in original resolution MediaInfo for Seri (HD) channel: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Seri appears to be the only channel on Sirius TV right now that has EPG (Electronic Programme Guide). However, the EPG data is not accurate as it appears to me that the broadcast guys have mistakenly set the EPG data that was meant for the Drama Channel, as Seri channel. As some of you know, "Drama Channel" is mainly showing Indonesian TV series and movies. So, if you're curious on what programmes that Drama Channel offers, I copy pasted the EPG data as text file here: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Meanwhile, here's the MediaInfo for Drama Channel: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Video/Audio quality For demo purposes only, here's a random sample of how the channel look like, and sounds like below. I hope Sirius TV don't hate me ya ---------------- Here's a complete list of TV channels that Sirius TV offers on its on-going test transmission: As of 25 April 2021
"*" = based on bitrate graph | "**" = based on MediaInfo data Here's the bitrate graph of the TS Capture for 2 minutes. Filtered view to show only VPID (video) and APID (audio) tracks. Click/tap the image to view in higher resolution. I don't understand why Sirius TV set the audio bitrate for Seri channel as 64kbps, which sounds very terrible for MP2 audio codec. I guess is because they "overlooked" it? Consider increase it to 192kbps maybe? I also notice the inconsistent bitrates being used for SPI channels (FilmBox Arthouse, FightBox, DocuBox, Gametoon, Fast & FunBox). Not sure is it because that's what SPI provides to Sirius TV, or Sirius TV just throttle the bitrate for the channels? Cuz yes, I do notice that the HD video quality for SPI channels is bad, except FilmBox Arthouse where the channel is in SD, and it looks just like what SD channel should look like, so I got no comment about that. I agree on this point though... After been watching SPI channels occasionally, I find that SPI channels are targeted among niche audiences in Malaysia. What I am saying is, I "predict" that only a minority of viewers would enjoy watching content from SPI channels... An obvious sign that the channels is not gonna "last long" in the platform? 8 HD channels, 3 SD channels, 0 radio channels With the current video bitrate usage now for the 11 channels now, bandwidth used now is about 45Mbps already. Out of the of 71Mbps, there's a remaining of 26Mbps left. I wonder how Sirius TV gonna fit 19 more TV channels with the remaining 26Mbps, if you demand for better video/audio quality? Uh oh.... - Broadcast all channels in HEVC? - Reduce video bitrate or downgrade some of the channels from HD to SD? - Change satellite modulation technique from DVB-S2 QPSK to DVB-S2 8PSK as well as the FEC, to accommodate more bandwidth (~80-110Mbps), but sacrificing satellite signal robustness (means you will lose satellite signal faster during heavy rain/bad weather). To compensate that, use bigger size satellite dish (>75cm). - Add 2-3 more transponders? 💸💸💸💸 Qash-M liked this post
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