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 Banks are racist in Malaysia, Any experience?

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ScooterBoi
post Aug 21 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(LUSINGH @ Aug 21 2019, 03:29 AM)
I did not try to ‘pusingh’ as someone said, nor am I trying to provoke anything.

I only knew about basic profiling thing, however still nobody can justify whether it is true or false.

I asked my uncle who works in one BNM Department regarding this, he told it just pure BULLSHIT.

I will grill the property agent when I meet him.
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Your 2nd post, looks to me, has diverted so much from your 1st post that it is a complete u-turn.

I mentioned 'insider' and you said indeed it was what an 'insider' said to your property agent.

Now you bring in an uncle working in bank negara.

Even if I accept what you said and not be sceptical that the agent and uncle were created out of thin air, the point still remains that you made a bold statement and challenges others to dispute or support the bold statement that banks are racist and approves housing loans based on skin color.

You were not asking whether what you heard from the 'agent' was true or not.

You have already concluded that the banks are racists, and when challenged on your conclusion and the point that you have a bias mentality based on skin color in arriving at that opinion that the banks are racists, you were trying to defend yourself that it was what the agent said.

Another person would question first that he heard from a friend or anyone before making such a bias opinion.

But you choose to share and post the opinion and said this is what you heard from someone. Obviously, you are racially bias and immature.

"I only knew about basic profiling thing, however still nobody can justify whether it is true or false."

Enough la with your spins... you go research on your own what this 'basic profiling thing' you're talking about. It was 'Profiling' and then 'Profiling Risk Database'.



Zhik
post Aug 21 2019, 04:26 PM

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I think u not from this research field, they use the same method to analyse the reseach data, there is a thing call p value. So the analyse data show that race is an important factor and it is true from what they said. The result is there for a reason. Ppl are businessman, making money from social. They not gonna cheat on yhis
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post Aug 22 2019, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Aug 21 2019, 04:26 PM)
I think u not from this research field, they use the same  method to analyse the reseach data, there is a thing call p value. So the analyse data show that race is an important factor and it is true from what they said. The result is there for a reason. Ppl are businessman, making money from social. They not gonna cheat on yhis
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May I know what is meant by "P value"? Mind sharing?
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post Aug 22 2019, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(LUSINGH @ Aug 22 2019, 01:41 AM)
May I know what is meant by "P value"? Mind sharing?
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The significance of the processed data, the end result of the hypothesis.

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&clie...+square+p+value
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post Aug 22 2019, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(lotter92 @ Aug 16 2019, 07:00 PM)
I'm bumi and wonder if this is the reason why my housing loan application was very hard to get approved, despite of my good DSR and clean CCRIS record. Applied to 3 banks, only 1 approved (although only 80%), only able to get 90% if joint name with my wife. SMH
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Hmm that sounds like a salary issue since all's well when you add your wife in?

QUOTE(wolf7036 @ Aug 19 2019, 08:52 AM)
haha when comes to own skin semua mau back up saying not racist
of course its RACIST la to categorize ppl according to races, associating certain behavior to certain race is RACIST
judging people's ability to do work or pay loan according to race is RACIST
profiling is racist
risk management konon. knnccb
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If banks based on race and race alone then yeah that's racist.
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post Aug 22 2019, 03:42 PM

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More like BS, bank don't work that way

1. Credit
2. Meeting bank requirement

If not then try another bank.

Every bank have their own criteria apart from DSR
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post Aug 23 2019, 08:04 AM

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unfounded accusation based on personal opinion. what i understand from bank working is totally different.
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post Aug 23 2019, 10:57 AM

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maybe u should try other bank.. say HLBB also good now a days
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post Aug 23 2019, 11:41 AM

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Depend on sales person la..
Kalau rajin buat karangan senang la lulus
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post Aug 23 2019, 12:12 PM

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Look at the bank's point of view if you are the banker.
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post Aug 23 2019, 12:16 PM

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Lol. Funniest tered i read today.

Which bank doesnt want to earn money from interest. Clearly they will need to analyze their risk as well while doing so.
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post Aug 23 2019, 08:39 PM

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Bank will approve as long as it meets their criteria ie DSR, Disposable Income, Existing Savings, Good Track Record...

If can approve 100 cases in hand, why not ? It is more efficient and easier than reject 90, approve 10 then go looking for another 90 cases to approve.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Aug 19 2019, 03:28 PM)
Yes, it happens. But not all banks. I'd suggest if you found that kind of banks, just walk away.
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How to know "that kind of bank"?
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post Aug 24 2019, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Aug 23 2019, 08:39 PM)
Bank will approve as long as it meets their criteria ie DSR, Disposable Income, Existing Savings, Good Track Record...

If can approve 100 cases in hand, why not ?  It is more efficient and easier than reject 90, approve 10 then go looking for another 90 cases to approve.
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You have the point.
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post Aug 24 2019, 11:26 PM

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It's logical and makes sense. It's all about probability
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post Aug 24 2019, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(wolf7036 @ Aug 19 2019, 08:52 AM)
haha when comes to own skin semua mau back up saying not racist
of course its RACIST la to categorize ppl according to races, associating certain behavior to certain race is RACIST
judging people's ability to do work or pay loan according to race is RACIST
profiling is racist
risk management konon. knnccb
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I guess you went through bad experience in one of local banks then.
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post Aug 24 2019, 11:38 PM

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FYI, i have perfect credit card payment track record.

i pay 100% according to statement amount, monthly without fail.


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QUOTE(john123x @ Aug 24 2019, 11:38 PM)
FYI, i have perfect credit card payment track record.

i pay 100% according to statement amount, monthly without fail.
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and then? any of your loan approve or how?
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post Aug 25 2019, 09:06 AM

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I’ve no idea whether banks are racist or not. But I always wonder the race column in all their forms. Assuming I’m applying for a CC or PL where there isn’t a bumi discount.

Do they use that for statistics? End of the year PowerPoint to show how much Chinese has borrowed? Malay and Indian. How many did not pay back or took longer? Then that’s racism of some kind for sure. Subtle one.

Point is, they must be using that data for something.
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post Aug 25 2019, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(LUSINGH @ Aug 17 2019, 11:41 PM)
Guys, I gave the property agent the link of our lowyat forum feedback /posts on this topic.

I agreed about Profiling Risk Database. I knew about it. So I Whatsapp the property agent.

The agent says, the information that he got about this is within an insider from the local bank.

This is scary then.
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why is it so scary? sorry, you acted like you just came out from a cave. this process is normal. every bank will rate you when apply for loan. doh.gif

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