Will dap win without Tun?

tepuk dada tanya selera, sudah kah anda sedar
https://www.google.com/search?q=mahathir+wo...iw=1440&bih=757

essentially u r saying tun is using education as a tool to gain political mileage. yeah, that is very assuring to people who dont trust the system already.

he knows PH is losing malay votes really fast because the oppositions r capitalizing on the anti-melayu sentiment.

Adib got murdered? salahan gov for not protecting the malays.
the road rage/road bully case? salahan gov for not protecting the malays.
backlash by the nons on the khat syllabus? salahan gov for not shutting up the non malays to protect the malays interest.
etc etc etc.

he knows PKR is donezo. so he's trying to drive up PPBM members registration nationwide. he also dont want to deport zakir naik because majority of the malays support zakir naik. whereas dap is just dap. chinese will always vote for dap because mca is najib's dog.

This post has been edited by G_KeN: Aug 14 2019, 11:55 AM

I wholeheartedly agree, the only reason GE14 happen was because of Mahathir jump ship and Najib was that incompetent.

That is also the reason why I bantah all of Mahathir's ideas because his interest was never for rakyat, it was just to fix his UMNO party now Cough Bersatu Cough

Yes clearly Thanos has better IQ and political knowledge than any \k, so \k shouldn't complain PH anymore because they are not smarter than Thanos. Also smart people like Thanos always fight for the goods of peasants like \k so no reason to complain. Thanks for the info.

This post has been edited by bashlyner: Aug 14 2019, 11:56 AM

Read my post, already cover this.

On the bolded part, news flash, that assumption only shared by the nons.

For all we know for most malays these allegations are unfounded and not proven.

“liberal malays” group are VERY SMALL, You can see almost all malays dont support siti kassim, LGBT groups, and other things like opening quotas.

In fact most Malays nowadays support more progressive Islamic movement that focuses on open debates about religions, comparative religion, corruption free government, Islamic Financing, Clean governance and of course economic support for bumis.

The reason why BN lose is that Najib are too corrupt, he took our epf for his stupid project and took down felda (one of the main body that support bumi economic agenda).

These malays are not far right who only concern race and religion, the importance of economic development plays a major role too, this is why the swing voters do not vote for najib that causes problems like felda downfall, china debt trap, rosmah luxury trips, jho low exploitations etc.

The nons only focuses on “extreme version” of things which make them fail to see why its hard to have malay support their “abolish bumi rights and privilages” ideals.

You think theres only “Religious and racist malay” on one end and “liberal and progressive malay” on the other end.

But the middle group “Religious and progressive malay” are the main players within the swing voters group that you nons dont realize.

These group are the ones who still respect religion and religious figures at heart but also focus on importance of good governance, corruption free, and economic growth of the nation.

So theres no “malays that support PH are liberals” at all..

Most of them are religious and progressive, and mostly are ex BN and PAS voters.

So get the picture, dont simply think that Bumis suddenly support abolish bumi privilage at all. Do not create your own version of “Liberal Malay” based from your limited understanding of what Malays stands for.

Let unker teach yooo

Fine example of “cepat pancut pipu”

When a random guy simply assume Im a teacher you jump into conclusion that I work as a teacher, and then pancut again say future generation gone to shit etc.

Its like pancuting machine gun bs sperms..

Agreed, that is why I say swing voters are ex BN and PAS voters..

Spot on bro. These stupid ppls would never want to see the big picture. Too short sighted.

In this scenario, its not working
As zakir is calling the nons devils
And as such PH suffers infighting

Drm got to break from the past formula
Of menunggang agama

This is the worst thing that can split a nation

TS is missing out two important points:

1. Mahathir will not be contesting in GE15 unless he plans to contest at the age of 99 and then ask for 1 year so he can retire at age 100.

All the so-called Malay swing votes will evaporate when Mahathir is gone. You think Muhyiddin or Mukhriz can take over his role?

2. Mahathir says and does things for his ego and does not like others restricting him. This is a pushback against DAP above everything else.

He is not doing it with GE15 in mind.

Where got split nation where the ratio here is 75/25. In this ratio... The minority will get in line.

agree with TS.

Redelineation may or may not happen in this term.
If redelineation happen in BN term, bye bye la nons.

You must hold power in federal government to have better chance in future GE.

And changes dont happen in just few years, just because the minority becomes majority of the majority (higher percentage of nons in PH votes) doesnt make them a permanent majority.

How many seat did pribumi won? Thats pretty sum out the whole point.

PPBM would not have won a single seat in GE14 without DAP.

That is confirmed.

You think PPBM can win with only 25% Malay support and 0% non-Malay support?

Its 62 : 38
Thats not a minor minority
If used properly, the minorities are very productive
Hence they punch above their numbers in economic terms

Can Drm attract a bigger malay base
And yet also have harmony with the nons ?

Yes, he can

But With his zakir strategy its not working

He needs a new formula

The ones who inflating zakir naik's roles in Malaysian politics are you guys, you are quick to assume Zakir Naik plays a major role but thats not the case at all.

Mahathir simply wants to show that the new govt will support progressive islam unlike the old authoritative islam like Pas is doing right now.

Zakir Naik views are quite different than typical ustaz and muftis, he invites questioning, and promotes open debate, a type of Muslim that are not normally seen in Malaysia.

This is a type of muslim are more open, although firm to their belief, they dont get angry when people question their religion, in fact they invite these questions and engage in open debate to prove their points.

This is the type of muslim Mahathir wants, not those pak lebai jangan persoal faggots.

Like I said, like it or not, majority Malays although they do focus on economics and well being of bumis, they also focus on the importance of religion, specificaly Islam, like it or not the govt need to cater to these demands, this is a democratic country after all.

Dont simply label people penunggang agama, so those who support non bumis are what? Penunggang non bumi?

NO, it is simply sharing the same views, it simply working together to achieve the same goals, that is to save Malaysia from BN

Of course Mahathir will retire, but that doesnt mean he wont put forward his agenda, we are talking about saving Malaysia after all, dont be so naive thinking "oh the old guy wanna retire he dont care about Malaysia"

thats just simply naive and irresponsible.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Aug 14 2019, 01:07 PM

In tht case, drm's solution is very simple
Get rid of zakir
Find a suitable agama horse from the respected al azhar U

Majority politics can overturn the economy of the majority in just one term... But no worries... The minority elders know what the majority can do... The minority will get in line eventually..

Next GE PH have near to 0% chance to win.

Last GE they won bcoz
1) tun added the extra votes that PH need to win
2) they also got votes from umno people who is dissatisfied with najib. Their purpose was to actually reduce votes for umno to force najib to step down. Not to lose
3) they basically got majority of chinese votes.

Even with all this, PH actually only got 49% of the total votes. Now why i think PH have very low chance to win next ge

1) those umno voters will go back to voting umno.
2) i predict there will be a high malay voters turnout and lower chinese voters turnout
3) PH disturb smokers
4) PH disturb mamak restaurants
5) PH likes to carik pasal with gov servants, they probably forgot gov servants are also voters.
6) All the promises kat longkang
7) malays pretty much hate DAP right now.
8) chinese also disappointed with DAP
9) there wont be tun in next ge
10) they disturb bsh

Theres lots more reasons. I dont think theres anyway they can win.

Even the PH macai's here I see already have no more fresh ideas how to protect their masters.