QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 9 2019, 08:35 AM)
Cannot survive on $750 a week?You sure?
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Aug 9 2019, 08:38 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 08:51 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2019, 08:38 AM) After tax, it wouldn't be....at 36k, I think tax is 25%.....plus 2% Medicare levy....A room at share rental in reasonable area with utilities is already 200/week....higher in syd/Mel..... 36k pa is really borderline poverty ...... equivalent to say, 2k pm MYR in KL..... |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 9 2019, 08:53 AM) After tax, it wouldn't be....at 36k, I think tax is 25%.....plus 2% Medicare levy.... Much less than 25%A room at share rental in reasonable area with utilities is already 200/week....higher in syd/Mel..... 36k pa is really borderline poverty ...... equivalent to say, 2k pm MYR in KL..... https://www.paycalculator.com.au/ Total tax is $3402 p a. Medi $720 Leaves $31878. About $613 p week. |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2019, 09:00 AM) Much less than 25% At that income, you are condemned to forever rent....https://www.paycalculator.com.au/ Total tax is $3402 p a. Medi $720 Leaves $31878. About $613 p week. |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2019, 08:38 AM) You can but barely. That's pretty much minimum wage as minimum wage is 725 dollars per week. At that level you pay 10 percent income tax. Which means you get about 650 a week. Average rent is 200 a week with utilities, so you have 400 left. Say makan 15 dollars a day because you don't eat out but you cook decent food. So you have 295 left. Transport usually based on zones and if you work fruit picking, you're easily doing a few zones. But usually 12 to 13 bucks a day is enough lower border estimate. So you have 200 left. Not including handphone, health insurance, emergency funds, entertainment...... |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:05 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 9 2019, 09:04 AM) You can but barely. That's pretty much minimum wage as minimum wage is 725 dollars per week. YeahAt that level you pay 10 percent income tax. Which means you get about 650 a week. Average rent is 200 a week with utilities, so you have 400 left. Say makan 15 dollars a day because you don't eat out but you cook decent food. So you have 295 left. Transport usually based on zones and if you work fruit picking, you're easily doing a few zones. But usually 12 to 13 bucks a day is enough lower border estimate. So you have 200 left. Not including handphone, health insurance, emergency funds, entertainment...... Its really minimum wage. But one can still 'survive'. Compare with Malaysia's minimum wage of Rm1,100. Survivalist do not consider entertainment! Get a yearly travel card. Its much cheaper if you do different zones. |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:19 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2019, 09:08 AM) Yeah Yeah...I generally consider the threshold for a worthwhile lifestyle to be around the 60k per annum mark, it means you aren't stressed as long as you live a relatively austere lifestyle. And that isn't much either. Its really minimum wage. But one can still 'survive'. Compare with Malaysia's minimum wage of Rm1,100. Survivalist do not consider entertainment! Get a yearly travel card. Its much cheaper if you do different zones. Also, manaada yearly travel card here, most states don't do monthly or yearly passes. You can only get concession fares if you're a registered student or a welfare recipient. |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:22 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2019, 09:22 AM) Not really, I used to work in a regional area. Fruit picking, chicken handling, commercial cleaning....I've done that to pay my way through uni. Room for rent was 130 a week in 2008 in a regional area. Not inclusive of utilities. Remember utilities have a large base charge here regardless of whether you use them or not, and in countryside areas electricity and gas are 30 to 40 percent more expensive sometimes due to the cost of servicing rural areas. |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2019, 09:22 AM) Of course they do.....these illegal fruit pickers generally live on the farm, they don't mind basic cramp living conditions, don't pay any taxes, and save their money ....That's the whole point of the exercise....work and save for a few years.....they know eventually they will be found out and have to leave... Hopefully not before saving enough to justify the whole exercise.... |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 9 2019, 09:26 AM) Not really, I used to work in a regional area. Fruit picking, chicken handling, commercial cleaning....I've done that to pay my way through uni. I though you drove taxi......Room for rent was 130 a week in 2008 in a regional area. Not inclusive of utilities. Remember utilities have a large base charge here regardless of whether you use them or not, and in countryside areas electricity and gas are 30 to 40 percent more expensive sometimes due to the cost of servicing rural areas. |
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Aug 9 2019, 09:30 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 09:45 AM
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Aug 9 2019, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(LamTin. @ Aug 9 2019, 09:43 AM) A cash payment or what we call a "cashie" is possible, but usually they get only 13 dollars an hour because the employer knows they're desperate ler. The usual going rate is 30 percent off a full rate if you want cash in hand. They employer will hide your payments but it also costs them money as they can't deduct your pay from their business income anymore for lower tax. |
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Basically it's not worth it to work in Australia illegally or at minimum wage. Working holiday visa should only be taken as an experience, not a way to earn money.
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