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limeuu
post Aug 6 2019, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(wongsinyee @ Aug 6 2019, 08:14 PM)
Malaysians are eligible to apply for working holiday visa. why want to take the risk and do illegally?
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Work and travel visa only for students...,must be certified by your university.....and only 100 slots a year....
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post Aug 6 2019, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Aug 6 2019, 11:05 PM)
travel without hotel booking sure kena la
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I never have hotel booking in Australia.....never kena
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post Aug 6 2019, 11:55 PM

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The story doesn't add up..... obviously one sided....

The money is just a red herring....they profile from behaviour, not cash.....I usually just have AUD50 for emergency.....lol

The USA has been profiling travellers and checking at boarding for years.....

Don't know Australia to do that.....but with the current statistics of plane jumpers from msia, I am not surprised.....

They have lately started to reject ETA applications, something unheard before.....and they do regularly profile people on arrival and turn back some.....but doing so before boarding is new.....

There is also a possibility they may remove msia from the ETA program.....too many abuses....and put msia with most of Asia requiring a formal application for visa.....which is a bummer as I travel there 2-3 times a year....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Aug 6 2019, 11:58 PM
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post Aug 7 2019, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(eddystorm @ Aug 7 2019, 12:05 AM)
Just curious, can ppl cover their face (due to religion) boarding a plane?
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Nope....if you want to enter kafir country.....in fact you will be shortlisted for extra treatment.....lol
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post Aug 7 2019, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Aug 7 2019, 12:06 AM)
Apa tarak? I dunno border patrol or what. But explain to me the aussie official who questioned me and my coworkers at KLIA. The place where u at the gate entering plane already. I took SIA.
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Obviously profiled to be suspicious....

But it's new.....I have visited Australia more than 30 times over the last 30 years never encounter this....
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post Aug 7 2019, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 7 2019, 12:08 AM)
According to her tweets, only one of them knew their iternery. Their accommodation is on the low end and the immigration lady claimed their booking is only for a day. I don't think money is the main issue. Is that their story doesn't add up/suspicious.
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In a group, collaboration of story is important....

Anyone watch border patrol?....
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post Aug 7 2019, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Aug 7 2019, 12:13 AM)
I look mix chinese, got another chinese, another mix chinese, another indian. All girls. Definitely no malay look. Boarding business keras

Really dunno they profile based on what doh.gif
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Eh.....young Chinese is the top plane jumpers lah....lol

Go watch border security, the Australian reality TV series.....

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post Aug 7 2019, 12:24 AM

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Actually, hirano's experience is interesting....they obviously realised many try to escape scrutiny by travelling through 3rd country.....spore being an obvious transit point.....and actually checking people travelling to Singapore.....
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post Aug 7 2019, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 7 2019, 12:24 AM)
Actually, hirano's experience is interesting....they obviously realised many try to escape scrutiny by travelling through 3rd country.....spore being an obvious transit point.....and actually checking people travelling to Singapore.....
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QUOTE(Honya @ Aug 7 2019, 12:26 AM)
Singapore no check lah, I travel from there before also! He/She mean SIA Airline from KLIA!
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Read what I wrote carefully again.....

And I transit through Changi half my trips using sq or QF.....I know there is no check Changi.....

But then I never notice any checks in KLIA either.....
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post Aug 7 2019, 01:59 AM

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It's not new/empty passport that's the problem....it's 1st trip to Oz.....

They have records of all your past visits.....even if you have new passport, they know how many times before with previous passports....unless you change name.....but with biometrics, they can still match up with previous identities....
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post Aug 7 2019, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(JerryTeh @ Aug 7 2019, 02:09 AM)
if
1)They got itinerary with hotel booked
2)They have credit card

Definitely is the immigration officer fault!

Years back i brought AUD350 too.

IF they made this decision simply due to many malaysian pick fruit there, i can say they are damn racist.

Where is your democracy and rule of law?
Guilty until proven innocent?
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How is that racist?.....statistics shows msians make up the most plane jumpers....the law allows then to refuse entry to anyone they consider a risk to country. ..democracy does not apply to foreigners....you cannot vote.....

It's the same in all countries....msia do the same to other nationals eg Bangla indons.....

Nothing to do with racism....
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post Aug 7 2019, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(KayDknighT @ Aug 7 2019, 07:56 AM)
On "poor command of english"

What a load of BS.
Travel to Japan, must be able to speak in japan?
Travel to Egypt, must know arabic?
If travel to both countries above still poor command of english, cannot enter meh?

Suddenly travel to australia, need high level of english, sightseeing dont need high level. Heck, no hablo ingles also is fine.
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Got people go Japan and Egypt jump plane pick fruits?....

It's not the language, but how to profile people who jump plane....language is one of the criteria.....but the overall behaviour lah.....

Go watch border security and see what's occuring in real life ...
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post Aug 7 2019, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(JessicaAlba @ Aug 6 2019, 09:49 PM)
sometimes mareisian reli no common sense/logic. knn 350 aud? halo think from the perspective of the immigration officers la. 350aud can sustain what lanciau. credit card? if everyone like that then no need bring cash adi la. dllm. berenam pulak. summore all girls. ultra red flag.

summore nowdays malays are infamous for illegally working there ... how ? go there tourist visa, go for farm work, then reach the end of their visa, time to balik kampung , apply for refugee/asylum pulak , this one cheap oni (not more than 100aud), oni need file case with AFP. then voila they can work freely until the results are out.
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This is also an increasing trend....record shows more than 10k msians almost all Malays are applying for asylum status.....

Not to mention that phone scamming case recently....

So young msian Chinese profiled for fruit picking.....young Malays for seeking asylum.....Indians how?
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post Aug 7 2019, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2019, 08:13 AM)
Next step is to remove ETA. Then all these jump aeroplane problems can be mitigated to an extent.
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That's what I am afraid they will do....there is just too much abuses ongoing with the ETA.... Makes things difficult for everyone else....

That's why I support these security measures, and no sympathy for those profiled and rejected....you can see in reality TV border security, how some arrivals behave.....if I am the officer, i will also reject.....

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post Aug 7 2019, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2019, 08:27 AM)
I'm just surprised that Australian immigration went to the extent of stationing personnel at KLIA.

Regarding border security, they must cherry pick the worst people for that show. It is reality TV after all.

I had a look at this girls twitter and if she's telling the truth she had accomodation for 5 nights, the lady did not deign to look at their itinerary according to her and lied about them only having 1 night of accomodation.

Also, she was singled out before hand by Air asia ground staff first and sent for further investigation. I wonder why.
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That's why I said we don't have the full picture and obviously something triggered the profiling.....

I am also surprised they screen at boarding now....never noted this before....

But already 3 years ago, Oz immigration already said they are reviewing ETA for msia due to abuses.....so this may be a temporary measure until they remove msia from the ETA program....
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post Aug 7 2019, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 7 2019, 08:36 AM)
What if they dont have ETA?
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Then you apply for visa like most of Asia.....like applying for us visa....show proof of real visit and why you are likely to leave after....and in some cases, medical examination....the usual visa allows only one visit.....

The ETA is electronic, no questions asked right to initiate travel, valid for 1 year, multiple entries up to 3 months stay each....open to select asian countries like Japan, Singapore, HK, SK, Brunei.....and Msia.....(also of course open to the developed western world of Europe and North America)....
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post Aug 7 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 7 2019, 08:53 AM)
I mean these girls dont even have ETA applied in the first place
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Then they will not even be allowed to check in....the ETA is linked to airlines reservation system....and the list of passengers is already transmitted to Oz before you even board.....no ETA, the system rejects check in.....
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post Aug 7 2019, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2019, 10:11 AM)
My wife kena many times until finally fed up and ask them why. They said the system cannot recognize surname with less than 3 letters. Doesn't make any sense to me but is this the case for you?
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The main problem with the msian passport is we don't have surnames.... The double chevron is missing (indicating surname).....so if your booking name is slightly different from the passport name (different order), you can get rejected.....that is why I cannot check in online with sq to Oz.... strangely no problem with MH and QF.....
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post Aug 7 2019, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2019, 10:11 AM)
My wife kena many times until finally fed up and ask them why. They said the system cannot recognize surname with less than 3 letters. Doesn't make any sense to me but is this the case for you?
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Aug 7 2019, 10:13 AM)
hmm.gif my surname is indeed 2 letters lel...  i shall ask them if it fails again as im going there this weekend lel. That's Yindian prugrammerz for you laugh.gif
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Ah.....that explains why my wife can never pass face recognition....also 2 letter surname.....lol
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post Aug 7 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ShardzOne @ Aug 7 2019, 10:25 AM)
so usually in this case, they will get refund for their flight ticket or not?
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If cheap no refund ticket, burnt lah ...if flex ticket, can refund but still needs to pay some fees....

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