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 [RESOLVED] Creaking Sound When Going Over Bumps, Suspension Issue Honda City TMO (09-13)

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post Aug 4 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 4 2019, 11:08 AM)
To be fair we do not know what kind of abuse the car went through. Another thing is quality of parts may be of another factor why the car creaks over duration of time.

Be fair 10 years is really a long time for rubber/ silicone/ PU parts to be in service.

Spraying oils/ chemicals is only a stop gap measure. Replacing is the only way to go. You have to remember crushed /worn with material loss/ cracked parts cannot be rejuvenated with any chemicals.

I am driving a 10 year old Myvi and a 43 year old Corolla. So i do know what kind of acceptable damage and wear level either car has with the age and driving that goes into it. Your 10 year old Honda would have same wear level on suspension as my Myvi. The myvi has creaking sound at the back when braking. And rattly under carriage when driving on bad roads. All are due to worn bushings that needs to be changed. I have sprayed WD silicone on these joints and it is only good for about a few weeks if it was not raining. I wish i have time to mount an action cam to the under carriage to prove my point. But get the car on a lift and manually shaking the suspension & control arms confirms the worn parts for play and creaks.

If you are still not happy that anyone can prove that the worn parts that needs replacing, then buy a new car.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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post Aug 4 2019, 11:19 AM

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post Aug 4 2019, 11:21 AM

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The car has only done 90k on the road. Was always driven carefully and gently and parked in covered area. Everything on the car is original. Fully maintained at Honda SC till today.

I do understand that rubber degrades with time and im prepared to change whatever necessary. Just trying to avoid fixing things blindly. In my experience, once you start opening up and changing parts you start a chain reaction where 1 after the other, related components start to act up - i guess coz the equilibrium has been disturbed.

No need for anyone to prove anything la. Just share if you have faced simillar issues so that i can minimize fiddling with the car more than necessary.

Cheers

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post Aug 4 2019, 11:21 AM

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Got ju-on below. Don't look down when your hear it next time.
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post Aug 4 2019, 11:23 AM

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post Aug 4 2019, 11:24 AM

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post Aug 4 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 4 2019, 11:24 AM)
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Did you experience this yourself? I thought if lower arm it would have steering vibration, sound when turning steering. I don't experience any of this. Is it possible to just change out the bush of the arm and not the antire arm?

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post Aug 4 2019, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 4 2019, 11:08 AM)
To be fair we do not know what kind of abuse the car went through. Another thing is quality of parts may be of another factor why the car creaks over duration of time.

Be fair 10 years is really a long time for rubber/ silicone/ PU parts to be in service.

Spraying oils/ chemicals is only a stop gap measure. Replacing is the only way to go. You have to remember crushed /worn with material loss/ cracked parts cannot be rejuvenated with any chemicals.

I am driving a 10 year old Myvi and a 43 year old Corolla. So i do know what kind of acceptable damage and wear level either car has with the age and driving that goes into it. Your 10 year old Honda would have same wear level on suspension as my Myvi. The myvi has creaking sound at the back when braking. And rattly under carriage when driving on bad roads. All are due to worn bushings that needs to be changed. I have sprayed WD silicone on these joints and it is only good for about a few weeks if it was not raining. I wish i have time to mount an action cam to the under carriage to prove my point. But get the car on a lift and manually shaking the suspension & control arms confirms the worn parts for play and creaks.

If you are still not happy that anyone can prove that the worn parts that needs replacing, then buy a new car.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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yes WD silicone can just last a few weeks, but at least you know that part is worn. rain water will wash away easily too
Problem has been identified to be that particular piece.

Mechs are just guessing anyway when it comes to this, tell you change lower arm, sound still there, stabilizer bushing all those change, later sound still there !!!!
it's all their guessing only. to be on safe side is of course change all.

the chemical i use is AT205, i've checked the compound itself, it will cause rubber to swell.
i put it into spray bottle. after 30min, spray bottle cant spray d, i think the rubber inside it swell and cause it to be inoperable.

what i wanna say is the problem is just that stupid sound, if it doesnt affect the handling or cause the whole car to sway, it's just the annoying sound problem.
Chemical wise WD40 is an excellent problem detector, while AT205 can cause the rubber to swell.
If the AT205 doesnt work, then treat it as preventive maintenance routine.
if it does work, then can save you a few hundred bucks.

I've seen in CX5 facebook groups that their suspension making creaking sound after 2years. if everytime got creak go change the whole part sure pokai wan. sometimes the rubber shrinks a bit, when it makes contact, it rubs against something making that creaking sound only

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Aug 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
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thanks, learned something today
gonna put some in my engine, hopefully it can stop the leak rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Swivlev @ Aug 4 2019, 11:48 AM)
Did you experience this yourself? I thought if lower arm it would have steering vibration, sound when turning steering. I don't experience any of this. Is it possible to just change out the bush of the arm and not the antire arm?
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It's most likely absorber mount (called struts)
that piece of rubber is attached to your car holding the absorber.
when you hit bumps, the rubber is compressed, thus making annoying sound.



see this picture, it's the black stuff on top of the absorber. that piece of thing shrink d

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post Aug 4 2019, 12:15 PM

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1. Absorber
2. Absorber mount
3. Drive shaft
4. Engine mount
5. Lower arm
6. 4 pcs Tayar change
7. Power steering oil change
8. Door rubber all change

9th option is best.. change car

Then will feel ok
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post Aug 4 2019, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 4 2019, 12:07 PM)
It's most likely absorber mount (called struts)
that piece of rubber is attached to your car holding the absorber.
when you hit bumps, the rubber is compressed, thus making annoying sound.
see this picture, it's the black stuff on top of the absorber. that piece of thing shrink d

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That rubber part is called struts is it? Ok, will get mine checked. Tx

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post Aug 4 2019, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Aug 4 2019, 12:15 PM)
1. Absorber
2. Absorber mount
3. Drive shaft
4. Engine mount
5. Lower arm
6. 4 pcs Tayar change
7. Power steering oil change
8. Door rubber all change

9th option is best.. change car

Then will feel ok
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Thjs. Mine got some sound due to absorber mount. Mechanic ask me to change absorber and mount. Almost 1k..
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post Aug 4 2019, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Swivlev @ Aug 4 2019, 10:15 AM)
Hi everyone. my Honda City TMO (2010) has been making creaking sounds at the front ('nyek -nyek'...like old spring bed ) when going over uneven surface / the slightest bumps. I took the car to Honda SC a few weeks back when the sound was not so obvious, and they said it was the STABILIZER BAR BUSH. I have since tried to google this and found that worn out stabilizer bush will result in clunking or knocking sound and not creaking.
I have an appointment to replace the stabilizer bar bush in a few days @ RM120+, but  i am not confident it will solve the problem. The SC did say that my front absorbers need to be changed as well since its almost 9 years old. But again, according my Google searches, bad shocks don't creak - they only leak, go dead, etc. (Do correct me if i am wrong). My priority is getting rid of the sound since the ride doesn't seem harsh to me esp since the car is mostly used for short trips.

There is no sound when turning the steering. No other problems with car ride or handling. Everything in the car is stock. Im guessing it is something to do with the coil spring mounting

Really appreciate if those who have faced this problem could share their experience and how it was resolved. Thanks a lot
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SC says it is that problem, if still have, then they have to be responsible and fix it without additional cost if their diagnostic is wrong. Write to Honda Malaysia to complain.
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post Aug 4 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(noien @ Aug 4 2019, 01:04 PM)
Thjs. Mine got some sound due to absorber mount. Mechanic ask me to change absorber and mount. Almost 1k..
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Did the sound go away after you changed the mount and absorber?

SC has quoted me RM1484 to change front absorbers (together with dust cover, bump stop and rubber comp - i think this is the rubber mounting)

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post Aug 4 2019, 01:34 PM

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DIY identify the source. Connect one end of a tube/hose near each component and the other end to your ear, listen while driving.

Or get silicone spray and spray each bushing one by one and test.

Absorber mounts can last a lot longer than 90K KM.
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 4 2019, 10:29 AM)
Most likely sound comes from this part.
You can try spray wd40 see sound goes away.

If yes then can buy at205 later to apply
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spray where ya ?
the hole in the centre ?
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post Aug 4 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(BluePants @ Aug 4 2019, 01:34 PM)
DIY identify the source. Connect one end of a tube/hose near each component and the other end to your ear, listen while driving.

Or get silicone spray and spray each bushing one by one and test.

Absorber mounts can last a lot longer than 90K KM.
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Yeah.. and from my vehicle records, i found that both sides were replaced in 2014! unsure.gif

Put hose near the part and hear while driving. I can't imagine how this can be done biggrin.gif

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post Aug 4 2019, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Swivlev @ Aug 4 2019, 01:22 PM)
Did the sound go away after you changed the mount and absorber?

SC has quoted me RM1484 to change front absorbers (together with dust cover, bump stop and rubber comp - i think this is the rubber mounting)
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Ya. Absorber is quite easy to identify
Sc quote me 3k for all

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