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Fat & Fluffy
post Sep 19 2020, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 12 2020, 12:26 AM)
Truth be told. The most rationale approach is to get F16Vs. Affordable and good. Tried and tested. And progress to owning F35s in 2040s and beyond  Lets be practical. Indonesia wont get F35s before 2040. This is because US policy is that whatever purchases are made will not upend the current balance of power. They will not place Indonesia ahead of Australia or Singapore. But the F16Vs are good enough deterrence. And why on earth will indonesia want to  to have a conflict with its biggest investor Singapore and source of money and jobs. Australia is a large investor too.
Like many countries in SEA, the biggest bugbear is China.
Having F16Vs will also help commonalise weaponry and datalinks.
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it is not always about actual defense but also about using it as a bargaining chip/leverage during negotiations

QUOTE(balambgarden @ Sep 13 2020, 03:29 PM)
Then that escort is useless imo
The military column should have stopped even if one civilian vehicle entered their lane
In the video clearly bikes can still go side by side with a moving military column
This is just accident waiting to happen.. and it did.. RIP to the lady
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agree... in fact the whole road with a certain distance forward should be closed off to public


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post Sep 19 2020, 10:22 AM

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Brazil Advances In The Development Of A Tactical Cruise Missile

By Ernest Buchanan - September 16, 2020

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The Brazilian Defense Minister, Fernando Azevedo e Silva, reported that the country is finalizing the development of a ballistic missile It will have a range of up to 300 kilometers and an accuracy of up to 30 meters.

The tactical cruise missile AV-TM 300 It is in the “final phase of development” and will give the Brazilian Armed Forces a “very great deterrent power,” the minister told reporters at a ceremony held in the city of Manaus, in the north of the country.

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The development of this projectile is part of the Astros 2020 project, launched in 2011 during the government of Dilma Rousseff through which a loan of 45 million reais (today about 8.5 million dollars) was granted to acquire a new defense system capable of launching such missiles.

“There is very little left for (the AV-TM 300 missile) to complement the rocket artillery of the Brazilian Army, which will give us a very great deterrent power, “said Azevedo e Silva in statements collected by the state-run Brazil Agency. The head of Defense predicted that the first units could be delivered between 2021 and 2022.

The weapons are being developed by the Brazilian company Avibrás and will have the capacity to exceed the limits of the national territory. Currently, the family of Astros rockets It consists of four models, but they have a shorter range that varies between 30 and 80 kilometers.


Read more: https://tv6.news/brazil-advances-in-the-dev...cruise-missile/


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post Sep 19 2020, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 19 2020, 06:38 AM)
it is not always about actual defense but also about using it as a bargaining chip/leverage during negotiations
agree... in fact the whole road with a certain distance forward should be closed off to public
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Agree. Also Indonesia is cash strapped with a worsening Covid 19 situation. The world should just quarantine the whole country. Probably trying to barter 2. But US and most western countries do not barter.
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Indonesian Air Force new C295 Special Mission Aircraft. Credit to Ivan Sembiring (@akangaviation).

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RSN at RIMPAC 2020

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SINGAPORE - RSS Supreme, a Formidable-class frigate from the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN), will participate in this year's Rim of the Pacific (Rimpac) Exercise, which will take place in Hawaii from Aug 17 to 31.

The RSN will be participating in the exercise for the seventh time. This year, it will undertake the role of task group commander.

Rimpac Exercise is hosted by the United States Navy biennially and is the world's largest international maritime exercise.

When it was last held in 2018, the exercise involved 45 ships, five submarines, about 200 aircraft and 25,000 personnel from 25 countries.

RSS Supreme's participation in the Rimpac Exercise follows its involvement in a multinational group sail with five other warships from Australia, Brunei, Japan and the US from Aug 1 to 11 in the North Pacific Ocean.

The ships conducted a series of drills while transiting from Guam to Hawaii, with RSS Supreme leading a component of the sail, which included manoeuvring and communication exercises, underway replenishment and protection of a simulated high-value unit.

The group sail exercise was planned virtually, without any physical contact among navies.

In a statement on Wednesday (Aug 12), the Ministry of Defence said both exercises "are important avenues for the Republic of Singapore Navy to hone its competencies and strengthen interoperability and professional ties with other navies".

It added that RSS Supreme's crew were isolated and tested negative for Covid-19 prior to deployment.





https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/repu...rimpac-exercise

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post Sep 19 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 13 2020, 10:33 AM)
wait...isn't this the S Korean tank dubbed the world's most expensive tank ?

gosh Poland must be very rich.
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post Sep 19 2020, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 19 2020, 05:46 PM)
RSN at RIMPAC 2020

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SINGAPORE - RSS Supreme, a Formidable-class frigate from the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN), will participate in this year's Rim of the Pacific (Rimpac) Exercise, which will take place in Hawaii from Aug 17 to 31.

The RSN will be participating in the exercise for the seventh time. This year, it will undertake the role of task group commander.

Rimpac Exercise is hosted by the United States Navy biennially and is the world's largest international maritime exercise.

When it was last held in 2018, the exercise involved 45 ships, five submarines, about 200 aircraft and 25,000 personnel from 25 countries.

RSS Supreme's participation in the Rimpac Exercise follows its involvement in a multinational group sail with five other warships from Australia, Brunei, Japan and the US from Aug 1 to 11 in the North Pacific Ocean.

The ships conducted a series of drills while transiting from Guam to Hawaii, with RSS Supreme leading a component of the sail, which included manoeuvring and communication exercises, underway replenishment and protection of a simulated high-value unit.

The group sail exercise was planned virtually, without any physical contact among navies.

In a statement on Wednesday (Aug 12), the Ministry of Defence said both exercises "are important avenues for the Republic of Singapore Navy to hone its competencies and strengthen interoperability and professional ties with other navies".

It added that RSS Supreme's crew were isolated and tested negative for Covid-19 prior to deployment.





https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/repu...rimpac-exercise
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Aussie navy ESSM missile launch at Rimpac 2020:


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View from inside the cockpit of PT Dirgantara Indonesia N219 Nurtanio light aircraft prototype during G Negative Test.


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‘Deter Malaysia’: Thailand’s navy wants Chinese submarines as both bargaining chip and deterrent

Thailand’s navy made a fresh funding push to complete the purchase of three Chinese submarines before a maritime agreement with Malaysia expires
The boats would give Bangkok more leverage in negotiations and help protect economic interests of some US$77.2 billion per year, navy officials say

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/arti...submarines-both
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post Sep 19 2020, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Sep 19 2020, 09:20 PM)
‘Deter Malaysia’: Thailand’s navy wants Chinese submarines as both bargaining chip and deterrent

Thailand’s navy made a fresh funding push to complete the purchase of three Chinese submarines before a maritime agreement with Malaysia expires
The boats would give Bangkok more leverage in negotiations and help protect economic interests of some US$77.2 billion per year, navy officials say

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/arti...submarines-both
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Lol. Wut??

Seriously, if there is going to be a war because of this maritime grab in SEA, it is deserving so! This is just plain greed by all the countries concerned. And laughable. Many countries in this world have little or no resources and doing very well. Every single country contesting something in SCS have as much as a feather's weight worth of claim. Shameless!

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Advanced Electronic Warfare Capability Gives the F-35 Another Cutting Edge

April 3, 2020 - by Andrew Dardine
Putting aside myriad development and deployment challenges, and whatever production delays the coronavirus pandemic may be about to cause, the F-35’s formidable technology investment can’t be denied. Not the least of the fighter’s technological advantages is its electronic warfare capabilities, principally the ASQ-239 EW suite.

Produced by BAE Systems, the fully integrated ASQ-239 provides broadband radar warning and geolocation, multispectral RF and IR countermeasures, and simultaneous jamming of surface and airborne threats.

In March 2019, new technology was incorporated into the ASQ-239 that reduced the footprint of the EW system with decreased volume and power requirements, while creating space for Block IV modernization upgrades. The system update is known as Digital Channelized Receiver/Techniques Generator and Tuner Insertion Program (DTIP) technology. It will help minimize the cost incurred for redesign work by addressing issues associated with manufacturing obsolescence.

As for that all-important platform, the Joint Strike Fighter is tailored to fall under one of three distinct design types: the F-35A Conventional Takeoff and Landing variant, the F-35B Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing variant, and the F-35C Carrier variant. The ASQ-239 equips all these aircraft for the U.S. Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force as well as the armed forces of numerous allied nations.

In November 2018, prime contractor Lockheed Martin was awarded a $22.7 billion contract for the production and delivery of 255 F-35s. The U.S. Air Force has a total acquisition target of 1,763 F-35As. The U.S. Marine Corps plans to acquire 353 F-35Bs and 67 F-35Cs. The U.S. Navy intends to procure 273 F-35Cs.

Planned F-35 acquisitions for the international program partners are as follows: the U.K., 138 F-35s; Australia, 100 F-35As; Italy, 60 F-35As and 30 F-35Bs; Canada, 88 F-35As; Norway, 52 F-35As; the Netherlands, 46 F-35As; and Denmark, 27 F-35As. Current British plans call for all 138 of the U.K.’s aircraft to be F-35B STOVL variants.

The combined requirement for U.S. and international JSF purchases is a tall order for the makers of the aircraft’s electronic systems, but BAE Systems is well placed to provide the ASQ-239 and all its substantial support. In May 2018, the company won a five-year contract to maintain regional warehouses with on-hand inventories of critical EW components for the JSF program.

https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordp...r-cutting-edge/




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F35's DAS is also getting an upgrade

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21509...ally-save-money






Older video (pre-DAS upgrade):


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QUOTE(renomahans @ Sep 19 2020, 06:01 PM)
wait...isn't this the S Korean tank dubbed the world's most expensive tank ?

gosh Poland must be very rich.
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Leopard 2a7 is more expensive
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Singaporean Leopard 2 Tanks Are Equipped For Urban Warfare


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Photos shared on social media a week before the annual National Day celebration revealed the ultra-modern arsenal of the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF). Leading the National Day Parade’s mobile column on August 9 were the army’s Leopard 2SG’s followed by its smaller tracked and wheeled counterparts. Although the prosperous city state’s Ministry of Defense (MINDEF) is remarkably transparent about its activities through a network of online accounts, a lot remains unknown about the Leopard 2SG. With less than a hundred of these 65 ton main battle tanks in service the firepower advantage they provide remains formidable.

The SAF’s prevailing focus on homeland security and urban warfare is reflected on the Leopard 2SG’s many improvements. The entire hull is covered in a layer of applique armor, with thick side skirts and cage or slat sections protecting the flanks, and the turret’s frontal arc encased in removable composite panels. The armament of the Leopard 2SG remains the same–a 120mm smoothbore main gun paired with a coaxial machine gun–although a secondary machine gun on the turret roof is absent. The enhanced protection level of each Leopard 2SG is to guarantee its survival against multiple explosive threats, especially high velocity projectiles at close ranges such as the ubiquitous rocket grenades of an RPG-7.

The Leopard 2SG’s protection level and ability to function day and night (thanks to the commander’s oscillating thermal camera on the turret roof) gives Singapore’s ground forces a superb fire support vehicle in any conflict scenario where the full brunt of their mechanized fleet is required. Complementing the Leopard 2SG is the tracked Hunter AFV that entered service in 2019 whose armaments (a 30mm cannon and a tandem missile launcher) and mobility puts Singaporean troops far ahead of their regional peers. To date, no other military in ASEAN has fielded a locally assembled tracked fighting vehicle. The success of the Hunter AFV is giving ST Technologies a greater incentive to look for viable exports and improve the vehicle; one variant has the Hunter converted into a light tank with a John Cockerill turret.

Although Indonesia and Singapore both operate Leopard 2 battle tanks, Singapore’s variant is considered more advanced. In 2010 the German manufacturer Rheinmetall unveiled its “MBT Revolution” upgrade for the Leopard 2A4 that was later rebranded as the “Advanced Technology Demonstrator” or ATD. Externally, the ATD and the Leopard 2SG resembled each other but the ATD had additional features such as the ROSY smoke grenade launcher, an active detection and protection system, and a remote weapon station mounting a 40mm grenade launcher. MINDEF can add these same countermeasures on the Leopard 2SG in the near future but these plans haven’t been announced. Internally, the ATD’s analog controls within the turret were replaced with digital subsystems and Rheinmetall ensured the crew had 360 degree situational awareness.

The tank fleets kept by ASEAN militaries are constrained by logistics and span a wide variety of models. Thailand’s army is unique for its collection of older second-generation tanks such as the M47 and M60 Patton, not to mention the obscure Stingray light tank, serving alongside the Chinese MBT 3000 and the Ukrainian T-84. Vietnam’s army has the same problem, albeit on a larger scale, with as many as a thousand Chinese and Soviet medium tanks kept in storage and a small batch of Russian-made T-90S’ delivered to provide a third-generation tank equipped for future missions.

https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2020/0...-urban-warfare/

Note: To date, Sg has 206 Leo 2SG MBTs - according to UN Arms transfer data as filed by the government of Germany. Sg has been buying every year. The Leo 2 tanks replaces the AMX-13 tanks of which Sg operated some 375 tanks.

In Sg NDP 2020, Leo 2SG tank no. 204 was seen for the first time. The previous latest tank no. seen in public was tank no. 198.


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Mad take on the defence treaty haha

Not sure if there were FPDA naval exercises this year due 2 Covid-19:



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PT Dirgantara Indonesia CN235 FTB (Flying Test Bed) during flight test. Credit to Muhammad Athalla (@thaleadadisini).

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https://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/news/d...flying+test+bed

PTDI’s Production Director, M. Ridlo Akbar added, the presence of the FTB was a part of an effort to respond to the dynamics of aircraft technology given the increasingly developed aircraft system. They also built the FTB based on the initial variant of the propeller aircraft namely CN-235-10 to CN-235-220.

Updates to avionics systems such as communication, pilot control systems, or navigation are carried out. "By utilizing the FTB, we will also build a CN-235 gunship version, and equip the aircraft with flares to avoid attacks. All of them we tested with FTB especially the operational impact (use of weapons), "he explained.

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Sep 19 2020, 11:40 PM)
Leopard 2a7 is more expensive
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http://www.thedailyrecords.com/2018-2019-2...military/18318/

wrong..

K9 tank is the second most expensive in world

Leopard is 7th.
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Nice pics of PT Dirgantara Indonesia N219 Nurtanio light aircraft 1st prototype. The Indonesian Navy want PTDI to develop a MPA variant of the N219 Nurtanio. Credit to PTDI.

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QUOTE(renomahans @ Sep 20 2020, 08:21 AM)
http://www.thedailyrecords.com/2018-2019-2...military/18318/

wrong..

K9 tank is the second most expensive in world

Leopard is 7th.
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"TOP TEN" articles like these tend not to look deeper into the story.

https://www.defence24.com/hungarian-leopard...e-cost-analysis

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According to one of the reports that have been issued by the German MoD a few years back, a single Leopard 2A7+ MBT has a price tag of EUR 13-15 million


It's true though that the Leclerc is more expensive when considering program cost divided by unit number, because nobody else operates the Leclerc besides the French Army. However on a per unit production basis the Leo 2a7+ takes the prize.

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