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post Jun 18 2019, 03:26 PM, updated 7y ago

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or will it remain with you for the rest of your life?
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it will remain ... kept it lock down and try not to dig it out
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use holy potion X1 to cure Depression.
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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jun 18 2019, 03:29 PM)
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some people have personality to always find something for them to be oppressed and depressed. there's no curing them

for normal kind of people, depression normally is only event related and can fullly healed with time or with replacement of what getting them depressed in the first place
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See the severity.
Find the root cause.

My sister got Anxiety attack and severe depression due to work related incident.
She move from that area, and now she's function properly, although sometimes she still got anxiety if anything related to previous incident resurfaced.

Happy pills help, but try not to depend on it too much.
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its like fever, with medication and proper rest it will go away
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How Taking Testosterone Illegally Helped Manage My Depression

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdmg9a/h...e-my-depression

I have borderline low testosterone and severe depression. After my mental health hit an all time low, I decided to take matters into my own hands.

At 19, I was diagnosed with major depression. I spent the next 14 years searching for the holy grail of antidepressants. In that time, I've been on more than two dozen psychiatric medications. I've tried all the well-known SSRIs (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors), like Prozac and Zoloft, as well as NDRIs (norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitors) like Wellbutrin. I've been on antipsychotics and atypical antipsychotics like Abilify, a drug I was on for only two weeks because it made me so tired that I slept through my alarm every morning.

I've been on mood stabilizers, anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax and Ativan, ADHD meds like Adderall, and more than a few treatments not approved for depression by the FDA. Every single drug I took ended up not working, only working for a short time, or producing unbearable side effects, like when the antidepressant Remeron made me puke for three days straight.

I'm 33 today, and my mental health deteriorated earlier this year in ways it never had before. Despite the three drugs I had been on (Paxil, Wellbutrin, and Lamictal), I became so depressed that staying awake for more than ten hours became nearly impossible. I lost interest in sex. (I'm in an open triad relationship, and my boyfriend Jeff, who writes for VICE, can confirm this had never been a problem before.) I started wishing that I was dead. Work became a nightmare. It was the most intense period of depression I'd experienced in my life.

It was around this time that I decided to take matters into my own hands and start illegally purchasing and injecting myself with testosterone.

I was 25 when a doctor first suggested I get tested for low testosterone, explaining that men with "low T" mimic depression symptoms: lethargy, low mood, general loss of interest, and low sex drive. My test results revealed that my testosterone level was 225 ng/dl. Low testosterone is medically defined as occurring in men who test below 200 ng/dl. Although I was borderline, because I didn't fall into the official low T range, my doctor wasn't comfortable prescribing me testosterone.

This February, after being let down by yet another cocktail of medications, I started thinking about testosterone again. Over the past decade, low T has become an extremely controversial diagnosis. Drug manufacturers stand to make a fortune from drugs that can treat it, but modern studies have had mixed results when it comes to its efficacy for treating depression, my problem. A study of testosterone's effects in men over the age of 65 found that "testosterone was associated with small but significant benefits with respect to mood and depressive symptoms"—but that's for older guys, not 33-year-olds like me.

The risks of testosterone therapy are great enough to make physicians wary of prescribing it. Testosterone injections have been shown to cause heart attacks, infertility, liver problems, polycythemia (thickened blood, which increases one's risk of blood clots, stroke, and heart attack), to aggravate sleep apnea, cause skin reactions (depending on how you take it), and other risks that should give anyone pause.

"We need to more completely understand the significance of the consequences of low testosterone, and to what extent testosterone therapy is effective in mitigating those consequences," said Dr. Christian Pike, a professor at USC's Leonard Davis School of Gerontology, when I asked him about the effectiveness of testosterone replacement therapy. He thinks that more research needs to be done before it's available as a treatment option for the general population. Though he did tell me that low T is "a real issue that pharmaceutical companies are aggressively targeting" and that "there is evidence from research in my lab and others suggesting that low testosterone increases the risks for Alzheimer's disease, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and several other age-related conditions."

Earlier this year, I went to four LA-area doctors, looking for one who would agree to at least test my testosterone level again. One told me he didn't know enough about the science behind it, while the other three told me my insurance wouldn't cover it because I had been tested less than ten years ago.

Deep in my depression with no relief insight, I started to feel desperate for anything that could offer some relief. So this March I decided to circumvent medical professionals and take my mental health into my own hands. I did this at great personal risk. It's a choice that I would never recommend to anyone else.

The common dose of testosterone prescribed to treat low T is 200 mg a week. Synthetic testosterone is an anabolic steroid, the same drug bodybuilders and athletes inject to build muscle mass, just at a lower dosage. Anything over 400 mg every two weeks lifts the drug into steroid territory.

I've dated bodybuilders and had athlete friends who were well-acquainted with that side of the drug. I didn't want to be like the muscle queens on the LA gay scene. My goal wasn't about vanity. I just wanted to feel normal again.

This might come as a shock, but finding black market testosterone in LA is a breeze. I bought my first vial from a guy I met through a mutual friend. He calls himself a "health consultant" and only deals steroids, no other drugs.

Getting over my fear of needles was the real struggle. It took weeks of staring at a syringe before I could even hold one. I also had a considerable amount of anxiety due to the fact that I was using black market drugs, which can be lethal.

"You could be injecting bacteria-infected material—you have no way of knowing what you're really injecting," Dr. Larry Lipshultz, a Houston-based urologist who specializes in men's health issues like infertility and low testosterone, told me. "It's a whole host of issues."

But any anxiety I had melted away after my first injection. Within 24 hours, I had more energy than I'd had in a decade. I felt sexual again. And I began to have hope that my life could get better.

While writing this, I asked Dr. Lipshultz and Dr. Pike about my elevated mood, improved sex drive, and increase in energy since I began injecting and why I might be seeing those results. However, they refused to comment without seeing my labs and knowing my complete medical history. Another doctor I interviewed refused to comment on my results, citing legal concerns. And though no physician would lend their expert opinion on why I'm experiencing relief, I'm aware that what's happening to me might not be due to the synthetic testosterone at all and will probably not produce similar results for anyone else.

Testosterone enanthate, the synthetic version I chose to start taking, certainly hasn't been a magical cure. I still have trouble getting out of bed some days. But it has alleviated the physical symptoms of my depression and allowed me to focus on the mental aspects of my disease.

Of course, I'm not a doctor. If you're suffering from depression, you should always heed the advice of licensed medical practitioners, who are there to ensure that the drugs you take won't end up causing you more harm than good. Off-book treatments like what I am doing are incredibly dangerous. The only reason I started doing this was because I felt as though I had no other choice.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Jun 18 2019, 03:30 PM)
you meant phoenix down
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no effect after apply Phoenix down
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Jun 18 2019, 03:30 PM)
you meant phoenix down
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If already zombiefied/undead state, nanti mati terus pulak.
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if they die because of old age - then yes, depression can be cured

else nope..jst the victim manage to suppress it until that very moment only..before he/she gave in to suicidal tendency nod.gif
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:34 PM

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yes. takes time.
2 years for uncle.
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jun 18 2019, 03:34 PM)
yes. takes time.
2 years for uncle.
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depression can many type.. there is no cure.. but it can be manageable
some common medication is like Lexapro can be bought

bottom line is.. if your work / life too depress and trigger your depression.. u need to change it.. there is no easy way to be happy
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Exercise, Depression, and the Brain
https://www.healthline.com/health/depression/exercise#1


Whether you’re experiencing a simple case of the Monday blues or more persistent symptoms of depression, exercise can help boost your mood.

Getting regular exercise is important for good physical and mental health. Exercise can help stimulate parts of your brain that aren’t as responsive when you’re feeling depressed. It also promotes the release of feel-good brain chemicals. It may also help distract you from your worries and improve your confidence.

Exercise and brain chemistry
Depression is a mood disorder that causes persistent feelings of apathy and sadness. It’s a complex condition, with several contributing factors. Changes in your brain biochemistry likely play a part.

“Simply put, most people who are depressed have something wrong with their brain chemistry," says William Walsh, Ph.D., president of the Walsh Research Institute, a nonprofit mental health research institution in Illinois. “Life experiences can make things worse,” he adds, “but usually the dominant problem is chemistry."

Exercise can help relieve symptoms of depression in several ways. Among other benefits, it helps stimulate the release of feel-good brain chemicals.

Endorphins and other neurotransmitters
The first thing you might think of when it comes to exercise and depression is what is commonly known as “runner’s high.” This describes the release of endorphins that your brain experiences when you physically exert yourself. Endorphins are a type of neurotransmitter, or chemical messenger. They help relieve pain and stress.

Endorphins are only one of many neurotransmitters released when you exercise. Physical activity also stimulates the release of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. These brain chemicals play an important part in regulating your mood.

For example, regular exercise can positively impact serotonin levels in your brain. Raising your levels of serotonin boosts your mood and overall sense of well-being. It can also help improve your appetite and sleep cycles, which are often negatively affected by depression.

Regular exercise also helps balance your body’s level of stress hormones, such as adrenaline. Adrenaline plays a crucial role in your fight-or-flight response, but too much of it can damage your health.

Other mental health benefits of exercise
Exercise can have other mental health benefits too. For example, focusing on your body’s movements during exercise may help distract you from upsetting thoughts. Setting and meeting exercise-related goals may also boost your confidence and sense of control.

When you exercise with other people, it can provide mood-boosting social benefits. For example, consider walking in the park, taking a yoga class, or joining a recreational sport team with a friend or family member. Exercise classes can also be a good place to meet new people. You can enjoy the physical stimulation of a workout, while getting social stimulation too.

Developing an exercise routine
While any amount of exercise can help relieve the symptoms of depression, regular exercise is best. Some types of exercise may be more beneficial than others.

Aerobic workouts are most associated with positive results in treating depression. Aerobic exercise elevates your heart rate, which improves circulation in your brain. This helps promote healthy brain function and balanced brain chemistry. Aerobic exercise also provides many physical health benefits.

The Centers for Disease Control and PreventionTrusted Source encourage most adults to get at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity aerobic activity per week. You can reach this goal by taking a brisk 30-minute walk around your neighborhood, five days a week. Other examples of aerobic activity include swimming, bicycling, and playing basketball.


Eating a healthy diet
Eating a well-balanced diet is also important for good mental health. For example, complex carbohydrates and protein-rich foods can help improve your mood and concentration. They also provide the energy and nutrients needed to fuel your workouts.

For a nutritious diet, eat a variety of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, low-fat dairy products, and lean proteins. Don’t eat a lot of foods that are high in refined sugar, saturated fats, or salt. Only drink alcohol in moderation.

The takeaway
A range of factors can contribute to depression. Your brain chemistry is an important one. In many cases, you can improve your brain chemistry with something as simple as regular exercise. Getting 150 minutes of moderate aerobic activity per week is an important part of staying healthy. It can boost your mood and energy, while strengthening your muscles, lungs, and heart.

If you suspect you have depression, speak to your doctor. They may recommend a variety of lifestyle changes, including changes to your exercise routine. They may also prescribe other treatments, such as medications, therapy, or a combination of both.
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Can be cure if u have the function to "Self-Motivate",

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
How Taking Testosterone Illegally Helped Manage My Depression

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdmg9a/h...e-my-depression

I have borderline low testosterone and severe depression. After my mental health hit an all time low, I decided to take matters into my own hands.

At 19, I was diagnosed with major depression. I spent the next 14 years searching for the holy grail of antidepressants. In that time, I've been on more than two dozen psychiatric medications. I've tried all the well-known SSRIs (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors), like Prozac and Zoloft, as well as NDRIs (norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitors) like Wellbutrin. I've been on antipsychotics and atypical antipsychotics like Abilify, a drug I was on for only two weeks because it made me so tired that I slept through my alarm every morning.

I've been on mood stabilizers, anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax and Ativan, ADHD meds like Adderall, and more than a few treatments not approved for depression by the FDA. Every single drug I took ended up not working, only working for a short time, or producing unbearable side effects, like when the antidepressant Remeron made me puke for three days straight.

I'm 33 today, and my mental health deteriorated earlier this year in ways it never had before. Despite the three drugs I had been on (Paxil, Wellbutrin, and Lamictal), I became so depressed that staying awake for more than ten hours became nearly impossible. I lost interest in sex. (I'm in an open triad relationship, and my boyfriend Jeff, who writes for VICE, can confirm this had never been a problem before.) I started wishing that I was dead. Work became a nightmare. It was the most intense period of depression I'd experienced in my life.

It was around this time that I decided to take matters into my own hands and start illegally purchasing and injecting myself with testosterone.

I was 25 when a doctor first suggested I get tested for low testosterone, explaining that men with "low T" mimic depression symptoms: lethargy, low mood, general loss of interest, and low sex drive. My test results revealed that my testosterone level was 225 ng/dl. Low testosterone is medically defined as occurring in men who test below 200 ng/dl. Although I was borderline, because I didn't fall into the official low T range, my doctor wasn't comfortable prescribing me testosterone.

This February, after being let down by yet another cocktail of medications, I started thinking about testosterone again. Over the past decade, low T has become an extremely controversial diagnosis. Drug manufacturers stand to make a fortune from drugs that can treat it, but modern studies have had mixed results when it comes to its efficacy for treating depression, my problem. A study of testosterone's effects in men over the age of 65 found that "testosterone was associated with small but significant benefits with respect to mood and depressive symptoms"—but that's for older guys, not 33-year-olds like me.

The risks of testosterone therapy are great enough to make physicians wary of prescribing it. Testosterone injections have been shown to cause heart attacks, infertility, liver problems, polycythemia (thickened blood, which increases one's risk of blood clots, stroke, and heart attack), to aggravate sleep apnea, cause skin reactions (depending on how you take it), and other risks that should give anyone pause.

"We need to more completely understand the significance of the consequences of low testosterone, and to what extent testosterone therapy is effective in mitigating those consequences," said Dr. Christian Pike, a professor at USC's Leonard Davis School of Gerontology, when I asked him about the effectiveness of testosterone replacement therapy. He thinks that more research needs to be done before it's available as a treatment option for the general population. Though he did tell me that low T is "a real issue that pharmaceutical companies are aggressively targeting" and that "there is evidence from research in my lab and others suggesting that low testosterone increases the risks for Alzheimer's disease, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and several other age-related conditions."

Earlier this year, I went to four LA-area doctors, looking for one who would agree to at least test my testosterone level again. One told me he didn't know enough about the science behind it, while the other three told me my insurance wouldn't cover it because I had been tested less than ten years ago.

Deep in my depression with no relief insight, I started to feel desperate for anything that could offer some relief. So this March I decided to circumvent medical professionals and take my mental health into my own hands. I did this at great personal risk. It's a choice that I would never recommend to anyone else.

The common dose of testosterone prescribed to treat low T is 200 mg a week. Synthetic testosterone is an anabolic steroid, the same drug bodybuilders and athletes inject to build muscle mass, just at a lower dosage. Anything over 400 mg every two weeks lifts the drug into steroid territory.

I've dated bodybuilders and had athlete friends who were well-acquainted with that side of the drug. I didn't want to be like the muscle queens on the LA gay scene. My goal wasn't about vanity. I just wanted to feel normal again.

This might come as a shock, but finding black market testosterone in LA is a breeze. I bought my first vial from a guy I met through a mutual friend. He calls himself a "health consultant" and only deals steroids, no other drugs.

Getting over my fear of needles was the real struggle. It took weeks of staring at a syringe before I could even hold one. I also had a considerable amount of anxiety due to the fact that I was using black market drugs, which can be lethal.

"You could be injecting bacteria-infected material—you have no way of knowing what you're really injecting," Dr. Larry Lipshultz, a Houston-based urologist who specializes in men's health issues like infertility and low testosterone, told me. "It's a whole host of issues."

But any anxiety I had melted away after my first injection. Within 24 hours, I had more energy than I'd had in a decade. I felt sexual again. And I began to have hope that my life could get better.

While writing this, I asked Dr. Lipshultz and Dr. Pike about my elevated mood, improved sex drive, and increase in energy since I began injecting and why I might be seeing those results. However, they refused to comment without seeing my labs and knowing my complete medical history. Another doctor I interviewed refused to comment on my results, citing legal concerns. And though no physician would lend their expert opinion on why I'm experiencing relief, I'm aware that what's happening to me might not be due to the synthetic testosterone at all and will probably not produce similar results for anyone else.

Testosterone enanthate, the synthetic version I chose to start taking, certainly hasn't been a magical cure. I still have trouble getting out of bed some days. But it has alleviated the physical symptoms of my depression and allowed me to focus on the mental aspects of my disease.

Of course, I'm not a doctor. If you're suffering from depression, you should always heed the advice of licensed medical practitioners, who are there to ensure that the drugs you take won't end up causing you more harm than good. Off-book treatments like what I am doing are incredibly dangerous. The only reason I started doing this was because I felt as though I had no other choice.
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Where can I get this vial around here? is it available in SEA region? say singapore/thailand?
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
its like fever, with medication and proper rest it will go away
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but then it will come back again if not taken care off properly laugh.gif
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no.

i have mental breakdown. never cure. understand my limit.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Jun 18 2019, 03:30 PM)
you meant phoenix down
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he is just depress not dead. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif



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QUOTE(crimv @ Jun 18 2019, 03:35 PM)
damn how ? teach me masta
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Well no specific ways. I tried to change job, and go solo backpacking just to kill time and distract myself abit from depression. But once back to reality, depression sank in again. I some how recovered without myself realizing also. When I finally managed to let go something (realization), then it will go away by it self.

No specific time but for me is about 2 years. In the process I ruin my career at that time, and spend a lot of money to travel. Just need to hang in there, make initiatives to see new things, make new friends and when your attention suddenly switched, then you will eventually forget about depression. Key word is hang in there, believe that sadness will somehow be over, make new friends.

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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 03:40 PM)
Where can I get this vial around here? is it available in SEA region? say singapore/thailand?
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go see doctor see u got low testosterone or not

https://www.google.com/search?ei=AZYIXaHTJI...i71.eHJTCNT3SVs

http://drtanandpartners.com.my/testosteron...w-testosterone/

https://www.nexus-clinic.com/testosterone-r...cement-therapy/
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 03:40 PM)
Where can I get this vial around here? is it available in SEA region? say singapore/thailand?
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U can try this;
https://my.iherb.com/c/testosterone

U can use this discount Code: WPP393

More info (Post#78):
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4358231/+60

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Will not leave u. But u can manage it
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In the end scuccumbed to depression.
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Can tell us more when you feel had depression?
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There is no such thing as depression or mental illness. But i do hear of bad attitude. I got a nephew who claim he has depression and cannot face life. I give him a good whacking and pull him out fron college after one day he became a happier man. Whenever someone tell you he or she has depression, don't give in to it, just ignore them and scold them
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QUOTE(WallMaker @ Jun 18 2019, 03:58 PM)
Can tell us more when you feel had depression?
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for some reason i left my family behind, now everytime i see old people i remember my parents, feeling guilty, see stupid cute baby videos on instagram i remember how my parent rise me and all that shit... cant function during the day, cant sleep during the night, don't want to leave my room during weekend...

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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Jun 18 2019, 04:01 PM)
There is no such thing as depression or mental illness. But i do hear of bad attitude. I got a nephew who claim he has depression and cannot face life. I give him a good whacking and pull him out fron college after one day he became a happier man. Whenever someone tell you he or she has depression, don't give in to it, just ignore them and scold them
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tell that to thousands of people who think killing themselves is way better than living their life
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actually can cure anxiety, depression and ...

all you have to do is sweat & jogging in garden
to make it sweat..
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Nope it's. State if mind, it can go away and come back.Thats why many said it's a silence killer.
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 04:05 PM)
tell that to thousands of people who think killing themselves is way better than living their life
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Keep watching romantic drama k dramas and mix with idiotic friends you will kill yourself soon. Friends who layan you for stupid thoughts untill one day they get fedup with you and you stupid attention seeker suddenly feel betrayed and out of irrational emotions you jump to hell. 'you' does not mean you, it is to illustrate why people kill themselves. The only way is to kick the person back to reality and not living in a world full of stupid expectations.
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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Jun 18 2019, 04:11 PM)
Keep watching romantic drama k dramas and mix with idiotic friends you will kill yourself soon. Friends who layan you for stupid thoughts untill one day they get fedup with you and you stupid attention seeker suddenly feel betrayed and out of irrational emotions you jump to hell. 'you' does not mean you, it is to illustrate why people kill themselves. The only way is to kick the person back to reality and not living in a world full of stupid expectations.
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I thought mine was gone for good. Turns out im wrong. Here am i with this fuckin thing again.
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Yes it can be cured.

We need to control our thought.
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QUOTE(Prinny @ Jun 18 2019, 04:20 PM)
I thought mine was gone for good. Turns out im wrong. Here am i with this fuckin thing again.
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Yes it never got away , u just need to find out what you did last time / or any specific event happen that cause it's to go away. Or the fastest way take antidepression pills.
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It gets better but not if you just leave it untreated obviously.

See a psychologist if you don't want to take drugs. Talking to a qualified mental health professional like a psychologist can do wonders.

Take care but it does get better if you take the necessary steps.
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 04:04 PM)
for some reason i left my family behind, now everytime i see old people i remember my parents, feeling guilty, see stupid cute baby videos on instagram i remember how my parent rise me and all that shit... cant function during the day, cant sleep during the night, don't want to leave my room during weekend...
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I read from internet. Its causes by your brain health. It's physical sick rather than mentally sick. So you might just lack of some kind of vitamin and so. Just my guess.. Hmm

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No it doesn't go away,

if you can cure mental illness, it won't be an issue to start of with, would be like the flu
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Most of ktards here talking as if a psychiatrist is con man
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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Jun 18 2019, 04:01 PM)
There is no such thing as depression or mental illness. But i do hear of bad attitude. I got a nephew who claim he has depression and cannot face life. I give him a good whacking and pull him out fron college after one day he became a happier man. Whenever someone tell you he or she has depression, don't give in to it, just ignore them and scold them
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Wahhh this one confirm dysfunctional family. I see a family history of abuse and trauma.

Lol can't believe how in this day and age someone can sound so arrogant about being so ignorant
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It often isn't. Depression in essence is an imbalance of neurochemicals, if you can restore this balance through drugs, therapy etc. you can cure depression (at least temporarily).
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Can. Mind over matter.

A close friend manage to beat it by sheer willpower. You need to want to get better. And when you do, try and stay away from trigger sources/manage yourself so that you don't slip back into it.
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true depression need medication forever..cannot be beaten.
many famous singer die by depression la

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post Jun 18 2019, 05:04 PM

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I guess yes, you can't be depressed when you're sleeping or happy.

Just stay happy or sleep all the time and you won't be depressed.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Jun 18 2019, 05:04 PM)
I guess yes, you can't be depressed when you're sleeping or happy.

Just stay happy or sleep all the time and you won't be depressed.
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Few months ago, all i wanted to do is sleep all day, coz it helps me forget all my problems.
Now few weeks before raya, can't even shut my eyes during the night....
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I think money is always a factor in depression. Motivate yourself to earn more money and spend yourself out of depression ....
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jun 18 2019, 03:43 PM)
Well no specific ways. I tried to change job, and go solo backpacking just to kill time and distract myself abit from depression. But once back to reality, depression sank in again. I some how recovered without myself realizing also. When I finally managed to let go something (realization), then it will go away by it self.

No specific time but for me is about 2 years. In the process I ruin my career at that time, and spend a lot of money to travel. Just need to hang in there, make initiatives to see new things, make new friends and when your attention suddenly switched, then you will eventually forget about depression. Key word is hang in there, believe that sadness will somehow be over, make new friends.
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This is something that i cant do (that is resign or change job) .. but problem of mine is not from work .. but i couldnt find the main issue that the issue im facing
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 18 2019, 05:24 PM)
I think money is always a factor in depression. Motivate yourself to earn more money and spend yourself out of depression ....
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other than money ? what else should i focus on ?
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Tumpang..

People who always blame god for everything is under depression or not?

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go jogging or go gym,.. different hormone,.. different mood,..
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QUOTE(stopandroll @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
See the severity.
Find the root cause.

My sister got Anxiety attack and severe depression due to work related incident.
She move from that area, and now she's function properly, although sometimes she still got anxiety if anything related to previous incident resurfaced.

Happy pills help, but try not to depend on it too much.
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 03:26 PM)
or will it remain with you for the rest of your life?
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the answer is yes and no

yes if u took proper medication (if necessary) and take an effort to change your lifestyle

no if u only take half measure, or didnt take any at all
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
its like fever, with medication and proper rest it will go away
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 03:26 PM)
or will it remain with you for the rest of your life?
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other than money ? what else should i focus on ?
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If you ask me...intuitively ..it is exercise...not in the gym...but jog in the park whenever you can..u need to see humans, not staying at home
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There was a period of my life I rather not say other than that close family health problem really cause me almost goes bonkers. I turn to mobile gaming heavily if not I would really consider ending it. Depression if you can turn your attention away from it can help.
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i seen people who got depression, he still consume medicine even 2 years later

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Difficult. Not impossible.

Healing depression, you really have to start small.

Like trying to lift a 50kg dumbell when you have never lifted before and instantly giving up, thinking it is impossible.

But of course, the "how" to cure depression is very abstract.
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QUOTE(fath82 @ Jun 18 2019, 04:24 PM)
Yes it never got away , u just need to find out what you did last time / or any specific event happen that cause it's to go away. Or the fastest way take antidepression pills.
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Last time it went away after i do intense exercise. Now i still exercise but the environment is making me depress.
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QUOTE(gingerrobot @ Jun 18 2019, 06:55 PM)
Tumpang..

People who always blame god for everything is under depression or not?

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I used to be this, blame god for all the bad things that happened to me, I mean I pray 5 times a day, ask him tirelessly, please make things better for me, but since everything goes bad to worst then I just stop it all, no longer pray, no longer ask him, just fvck it all no longer believe in everything my parents and guru mengaji tought me... people always say that when some one is given cubaan they will get closer to god or go murtad I guess I choose the latter....
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Depression will cause the brain cannot think properly. For serious case, people cannot organise the words for proper speech. It also will cause symptoms like dizziness, insomnia, fear, inactiveness. Some people will become silent; some will become aggressive, sensitive to voice and speech. Depression will also cause body / muscle tensions / stress. Continuous depression will lose appetite and weaken internal organs and probably cause illness.

People will feel anxious, when they have above symptoms, because they do not know why, it will worsen the condition . First thing is to identify the root causes of depression, and get out from that environment and find solutions for the problems. Do not hide and suffer alone. Bad memories / experiences are difficult to be removed, but you can accumulate the good memories. Good memories / experiences will help to fight the bad memories. Go for vacation, mix with kind people and get the assistance from the people that can help. Learn the methods to release body / muscle tensions. Do not have bad habits. You need to learn to accept the change and face the reality.

You are victim and weak, but you need to act like a warrior, to overcome the fear, face the reality, solve the problems, though you are actually trembling at the bottom of heart.

When the suitable time comes, you look back, the cause of depression is not a big deal.

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I need a psychiatrist. Is there a online psychiatrist for me to visit? I keep getting depressed when i saw a beautiful girl....
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no theres no cure....u will be ok if good thing happened or lots of $$$ but whenever sad thing happened it will come back again

thats why many celeb suicide
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Maybe it's like hypertension or diabetes. You just need drugs to keep it in control but changing lifestyle do helps. You die if it out of control.
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Supplement and correct medicine
See a doctor, first.
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Can the keto diet help treat depression? Here’s what the science says so far
https://bigthink.com/mind-brain/keto-diet-and-depression


A growing body of research shows promising signs that the keto diet might be able to improve mental health.

The keto diet is known to be an effective tool for weight loss, however its effects on mental health remain largely unclear.
Recent studies suggests that the keto diet might be an effective tool for treating depression, and clearing up so-called "brain fog," though scientists caution more research is necessary before it can be recommended as a treatment.
Any experiments with the keto diet are best done in conjunction with a doctor, considering some people face problems when transitioning to the low-carb diet.

It's hard to ignore the keto diet. You see it in the news when celebrities are promoting it, decrying it or otherwise duking it out over the science. You might hear about it from friends who've lost weight by adopting the diet and are now full-fledged keto converts. Or you maybe know somebody with epilepsy who's used the diet to reduce seizures, as epilepsy patients have since the 1920s.

What's clear about the keto diet is that it's an effective tool for weight loss: When you drastically reduce the amount of carbohydrates you eat, your body eventually enters a state of ketosis and starts burning fat instead of carbs for fuel, resulting in weight loss. But what's less clear is how the keto diet affects mental health, particularly depression.

There's a wealth of anecdotal evidence suggesting the keto diet has helped people overcome depression. As Redditor willilikeit wrote:

"Six months on keto. Have lost 40 pounds. But the best result is how I feel. I've gone from waking up with dread and fighting suicidal thoughts off and on most days, to feeling energetic, positive, and only a rare, passing, suicidal thought. It is night and day! Omg. Thank you for all of your posts and support!"

Of course, improvements like these might also stem from the simple fact that any diet that helps people lose weight, gain energy or otherwise gain a sense of control over one's life might also lead to improvements in mood and self-esteem. Still, recent research suggests that the keto diet might in fact be a useful tool in combating depression, and possibly other psychiatric conditions including schizophrenia and ADHD.

The keto diet in the psychiatric literature
In 2017, a group of psychiatrists published a paper called "The Current Status of the Ketogenic Diet in Psychiatry" that examined research conducted on the keto diet and psychiatric conditions over the past couple of decades. On depression, the overview noted two studies:

A 2004 study, which tested the hypothesis that the "ketogenic diet may act as a mood stabilizer," showed that rats placed on the keto diet showed fewer signs of depression, or showed less "behavioral despair."
A 2014 study on rats showed an even more surprising finding. The researchers put one group of mice on the keto diet, and one on a normal diet. The offspring of the keto group were more active and showed more development in several key areas of the brain, including the hippocampus, cerebellum and neocortex. These effects persisted even though the offspring weren't put on the keto diet themselves.
Interestingly, the overview also found that the keto diet seems potentially effective at alleviating at least parts of nearly every other psychiatric condition mentioned in the overview, including schizophrenia, autism and anxiety. Still, it's too early to know for sure whether the keto diet is a safe and effective treatment for any of these conditions, as the researchers concluded:

"While these animal studies are placing research into KD on a firm footing and identifying some promising leads, on balance the evidence in humans is insufficient to form an opinion as to the efficacy or lack thereof of this intervention in the mental disorders reported."

Why would the keto diet help depression?
The keto diet emphasizes foods that are low in carbs and high in fat.

There are a couple theories as to why the keto diet might help combat depression.

One centers on the diet's anti-inflammatory properties. A sugar-heavy diet (e.g. one high in carbs) is known to increase inflammation in the body. Meanwhile, inflammation is linked to (at least some forms of) depression, with studies showing that:

People experience more symptoms of depression and anxiety when given proinflammatory cytokines.
Chronically high levels of inflammation from medical illnesses are linked to higher rates of depression.
Neuro-inflammation has been shown to play a critical role in the development of depression.
So, the idea is that, because ketosis requires a drastic reduction in the amount of sugar you consume, the keto diet might help the body reduce inflammation, which in turn alleviates depression. Here's how Georgia Ede, a Harvard University-trained psychiatrist who studies the relationship between mental health and nutrition, summed it up to Susie Neilson at The Cut:

"...when refined carbs and sugar serve as the brain's primary food source, the neural pathways are overwhelmed with free radicals and glucose, depleting our natural internal antioxidants and leading to excess oxidation and inflammation in the brain. When the brain draws its energy from ketones, fewer free radicals are produced, allowing our natural antioxidants to easily neutralize them without becoming depleted. Mitochondria, the "engines" of cells, may function more effectively, and neurotransmitters' journeys across synapses may be eased."

Another main reason the keto diet might alleviate depression is that it seems to help the body produce optimal amounts of GABA, the brain's main inhibitory neurotransmitter. GABA is made from glutamate, which is the brain's major excitatory neurotransmitter. In order for your brain to function properly, it needs a balanced amount of both glutamate and GABA.

However, in high-carb diets the brain often can't convert enough glutamate into GABA because it's using glutamate as an energy source. Having too much glutamate and not enough GABA leads to neurotoxicity, and this impaired functioning seems to cause what people commonly call "brain fog."

What's interesting is that, for reasons that aren't fully understood, ketosis seems to encourage the increased production of GABA, reducing neurotoxicity, clearing up that brain fog and (at least potentially) alleviating conditions like anxiety and depression.

Potential problems with the keto diet
If you're thinking about experimenting with the keto diet, make sure to consult your doctor before making the switch: It's well documented that your diet can greatly affect your mood, so it's best to know what you're getting into before making a major change.

It's also worth noting that some people seem to encounter problems when switching to the keto diet. Sometimes these problems are caused by the inevitable period of low energy and weakness that one undergoes as the body adjusts to the dietary change, a period commonly called the "low-carb flu." Others might face complications caused by mineral deficiencies that stem from improperly implementing the diet. And still others might experience problems during the transition stemming from the symptoms of the very conditions they're trying to manage with the diet.
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 08:22 PM)
I used to be this, blame god for all the bad things that happened to me, I mean I pray 5 times a day, ask him tirelessly, please make things better for me, but since everything goes bad to worst then I just stop it all, no longer pray, no longer ask him, just fvck it all no longer believe in everything my parents and guru mengaji tought me... people always say that when some one is given cubaan they will get closer to god or go murtad I guess I choose the latter....
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No intention to make u feel more depressed but what happened next? Feeling better?
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Bruce Wayne (from Nolan verse) is a good example of people with depression.
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 03:26 PM)
or will it remain with you for the rest of your life?
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Physical activities are very good at curing depression, especially outdoor activities. When you are focused on using your hands and legs for coordination and balance, your brain is rewired more for that purpose, instead of overthinking things. It also triggers your body to create more endorphins, the hormone that reduces stress and pain. Physical activities also often come with targets/goals that you can achieve and when you achieve them you feel good about yourself. You also get dopamine the feel good hormone from the feeling of success.


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u depress for what reason

ignorance can help
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i think everybody have depression/anxiety tendency...it's just how severe that's all
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The depression is like a hell inside the body.
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It is biological n also psychological
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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Jun 18 2019, 09:17 PM)
Physical activities are very good at curing depression, especially outdoor activities. When you are focused on using your hands and legs for coordination and balance, your brain is rewired more for that purpose, instead of overthinking things. It also triggers your body to create more endorphins, the hormone that reduces stress and pain. Physical activities also often come with targets/goals that you can achieve and when you achieve them you feel good about yourself. You also get dopamine the feel good hormone from the feeling of success.
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yup, my psychiatrist keep pushing me to exercise frequently besides taking meds.
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yup, my psychiatrist keep pushing me to exercise frequently besides taking meds.
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was a gym freak, but since i no longer see a future for me, everything is just dark at the end of the tunnel, i kept telling my self what for? you may not going to live next month, next week, or tomorrow....
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yup, my psychiatrist keep pushing me to exercise frequently besides taking meds.
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It doesn't necessarily have to be 'exercise' because it sounds boring for a lot of people.

Physical activities can be fun like skateboarding, cycling, trampolining, wall-climbing, paintballing, etc. As long as you're moving a lot and sweating it's good.

In short, become a kid. Don't hesitate to look silly and have fun because 'I'm an adult'.

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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 11:05 PM)
was a gym freak, but since i no longer see a future for me, everything is just dark at the end of the tunnel, i kept telling my self what for? you may not going to live next month, next week, or tomorrow....
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Try to change new environment (like overseas) or meet new people.
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QUOTE(crimv @ Jun 18 2019, 06:52 PM)
This is something that i cant do (that is resign or change job) .. but problem of mine is not from work ..  but i couldnt find the main issue that the issue im facing
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Mid life crisis?
Do you have really close friends? It helps to have friends that you can share. For me I’m an introvert but I do have close friends. Though I dont share my problems regarding depression with them but I hang out with them. So I managed to live on for another day.
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 18 2019, 07:12 PM)
If you ask me...intuitively ..it is exercise...not in the gym...but jog in the park whenever you can..u need to see humans, not staying at home
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i even sign up for muay thai haha
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jun 18 2019, 11:32 PM)
Mid life crisis?
Do you have really close friends? It helps to have friends that you can share. For me I’m an introvert but I do have close friends. Though I dont share my problems regarding depression with them but I hang out with them. So I managed to live on for another day.
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Mid life crisis ? haha soon to be 30ish
I do have close fren and yes i dont share all these. trying to figure it out on my own..


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QUOTE(crimv @ Jun 19 2019, 02:43 PM)
Mid life crisis ? haha soon to be 30ish
I do have close fren and yes i dont share all these. trying to figure it out on my own..
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Maybe thats your problem?

Do you have partner?
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 19 2019, 02:52 PM)
Maybe thats your problem?

Do you have partner?
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ada partner .
ada rumah
ada kereta.
ada stable work

the only time i dont think about is when i work .

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work or volunteer for the less fortunate. working for terminally ill patients can change ur perception



honestly though, i think depression is a problem for 'priveleged' people only, common in first world countries. true people who suffer struggle everyday to survive, no time to think about sadness or whatever shit


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post Jun 19 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 08:22 PM)
I used to be this, blame god for all the bad things that happened to me, I mean I pray 5 times a day, ask him tirelessly, please make things better for me, but since everything goes bad to worst then I just stop it all, no longer pray, no longer ask him, just fvck it all no longer believe in everything my parents and guru mengaji tought me... people always say that when some one is given cubaan they will get closer to god or go murtad I guess I choose the latter....
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can u explain wtf in ur life that is going wrong? or wat things u feel make u unhappy?
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post Jun 19 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 04:04 PM)
for some reason i left my family behind, now everytime i see old people i remember my parents, feeling guilty, see stupid cute baby videos on instagram i remember how my parent rise me and all that shit... cant function during the day, cant sleep during the night, don't want to leave my room during weekend...
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this is regret. and u are in denial of ur own regret.

dont tell me u rather kill urself than make amends of ur mistakes? if this is true then ur problem is ur own ego.

u worry everyday if u will be forgiven or not, but u never willingly go ahead and try to beg for forgiveness. even if u did ask for forgiveness and u didn't get forgiven, that's their right to forgive u or not. u made a mistake, u have to live with the aftermath for the rest of ur life.

u can't be sad or angry that ppl dunt forgive u. who r u to ask for such things when u have done mistake? u think only by that forgiveness u can move on and be happy? that's very cowardice

true man swallow their mistakes and pain and have that scar in their heart to teach them to be a better man. who in this world don't have pain, regret and sadness? the difference is some people choose to let that sad bad things in their life become a lesson for them to better themselves. be more understanding, more forgiving, and more gentle to other people. u are a bad son? be a better father. u are a useless lover? be a better husband. u are a dumb student? be a dilligent worker.


truly, the kindest amongst people are often the ones that was hurt the most.




now stop being a pussy and man up
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QUOTE(AgogoLatoto @ Jun 19 2019, 03:42 PM)
this is regret. and u are in denial of ur own regret.

dont tell me u rather kill urself than make amends of ur mistakes? if this is true then ur problem is ur own ego.

u worry everyday if u will be forgiven or not, but u never willingly go ahead and try to beg for forgiveness. even if u did ask for forgiveness and u didn't get forgiven, that's their right to forgive u or not. u made a mistake, u have to live with the aftermath for the rest of ur life.

u can't be sad or angry that ppl dunt forgive u. who r u to ask for such things when u have done mistake? u think only by that forgiveness u can move on and be happy? that's very cowardice

true man swallow their mistakes and pain and have that scar in their heart to teach them to be a better man. who in this world don't have pain, regret and sadness? the difference is some people choose to let that sad bad things in their life become a lesson for them to better themselves. be more understanding, more forgiving, and more gentle to other people. u are a bad son? be a better father. u are a useless lover? be a better husband. u are a dumb student? be a dilligent worker.
truly, the kindest amongst people are often the ones that was hurt the most.
now stop being a pussy and man up
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I'm gay!, I'm an embarrassment to my family, I'm that cacat kids every family has, I will never be the son that my parents want me to be, I will never be able to give them grandchild that they want. No matter how good I am when I was a kid, no matter how successful I am compared to all the kids they've known. Yes I regret it, i regret leaving my family, but when you are under pressure and option are limited, fight or flight, and I can't fight my parents. How many malay parents you know can accept their son like me? NONE...!
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 19 2019, 04:45 PM)
I'm gay!, I'm an embarrassment to my family, I'm that cacat kids every family has, I will never be the son that my parents want me to be, I will never be able to give them grandchild that they want. No matter how good I am when I was a kid, no matter how successful I am compared to all the kids they've known. Yes I regret it, i regret leaving my family, but when you are under pressure and option are limited, fight or flight, and I can't fight my parents. How many malay parents you know can accept their son like me? NONE...!
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oh its a gay?

yer no wonder. suits u then
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QUOTE(stopandroll @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
See the severity.
Find the root cause.

My sister got Anxiety attack and severe depression due to work related incident.
She move from that area, and now she's function properly, although sometimes she still got anxiety if anything related to previous incident resurfaced.

Happy pills help, but try not to depend on it too much.
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got one girl I used to date, she pretty but she got very bad anxiety attack.

whenever she is nervous, her palm will get sweaty.
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 11:05 PM)
was a gym freak, but since i no longer see a future for me, everything is just dark at the end of the tunnel, i kept telling my self what for? you may not going to live next month, next week, or tomorrow....
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rather do something in my life, than plan for the end to come
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Serious Kopitiam: Find someone to talk to, open up to someone that would listen to you. That's the first step. If you keep it all to yourself, you'll just fall deeper into a downward spiral.

Kopitiam: 14th floor
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It cannot be cured, it can be contained with chems. Depression is chemical anyway
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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 19 2019, 04:45 PM)
I'm gay!, I'm an embarrassment to my family, I'm that cacat kids every family has, I will never be the son that my parents want me to be, I will never be able to give them grandchild that they want. No matter how good I am when I was a kid, no matter how successful I am compared to all the kids they've known. Yes I regret it, i regret leaving my family, but when you are under pressure and option are limited, fight or flight, and I can't fight my parents. How many malay parents you know can accept their son like me? NONE...!
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The first step, I think, is for you to accept yourself. Stand tall. And fark everyone else.

Never allow yourself to be a victim. Either of your family or society.

If you allow yourself to be degraded, you will find it very difficult to climb out of the perigi.

Winston Churchill described his depression a “black dog”. When you are overcome with depression, it’s like you’re forever being chased by this black dog. You will just run and run further away from the grips of sanity. Don’t let the black dog chase you. Turn around and chase after it instead.

Find a support network amongst the gay community. As for your last question above, yes, there are some! The toxicity might just be from your own family. Sadly, sometimes you need to melentur the toxicity. Stay away.

Get a proper diagnosis. Can go to govt hospital. They do prescribe anti depressants.

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QUOTE(banyanroot @ Jun 18 2019, 03:26 PM)
or will it remain with you for the rest of your life?
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Meditation, it helps alot.
But must be patient la..

It's like a person who is weak phisically, ask can I get stronger and healthier.
Yes, with exercise. But it takes a long time, can't expect do one time work out can get stronger the next day. but definitely exercise works. U get healthier and stronger bit by bit and u won't realize along the way. Untill about 3 months of consistent exercise later and u reflect back 3 months ago u can tell for certain your health improved.

Meditation is like exercise. Along the way u won't realize it's effect and the process is slow enough that u keep wondering am I wasting my time. After a certain period of time u be able to tell with a level of conviction that your depression is milder, and your temperament improved.

I say, if one is depressed and nothing seem to work, trying meditation really have nothing to lose. I recommend mindfulness.

Find some meditation apps.
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QUOTE(JessicaBaker @ Nov 25 2020, 01:17 AM)
Depression cured? What do you mean? Depression is not an illness to be cured, depression is a state of your soul, when all your masks are gone, you are left with whats most important in your life, and when all the fake social stuff is left, of course you are gonna be sad because there is almost nothing REAL in your life, that's just the thing of nowaday life. You should stop trying to cure it, but instead turn face to face with it and try to understand what it tries to tell you, I'd also recommend you drink a red md kratom tea to chill your nervous system before you do that.
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