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post Jun 17 2019, 04:49 PM, updated 3 months ago

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New Rubber Compounds
- New formulation of full silica tread compound that contacts the ground in micro-scale resulting in better grip throughout the life of the tyre.
- New formulation of full silica tread compound that bonds stronger from filler to filler, resulting in minimized wear leading to longer mileage.

25% More Mileage
- MICHELIN ENERGY XM2+ Tyres lasts 25% longer compared to other premium tyre brands.*
* The new MICHELIN Energy XM2+ lasts longer than premium competitors by 25% . Longevity test conducted by China Automotive Technology and Research Center Co.,Ltd (CATARC) (an independent 3rd party), on Michelin's request, in September 2018 in TianJin, China, on dimension 205/55 R16 91V on Volkswagen GOLF7 comparing MICHELIN ENERGY XM2+ versus Premium Competitors (figures represent the average of 5 other premium brands). Longevity test run in average real usage with 20,000 km run and estimated longevity at the depth of Tread Wear Indicator.

https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/tyres/energy-xm2-plus


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post Jun 17 2019, 07:27 PM

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XM2 lasted up to 115k km (6 years usage) with 2 mm residual thread depth for my Avanza.
Can XM2+ do much more than that ?

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post Jun 17 2019, 09:46 PM

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The tires will be crazy noisy by the time it almost time to change. Harder compound usually last longer also noisier.
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post Jun 17 2019, 10:01 PM

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Perfect tire for taxi drivers. 😂
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post Jun 19 2019, 08:57 AM

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More noice and less contact due to low rolling resistance.

Really not recommended for normal user expt grab or taxi.
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post Jun 20 2019, 01:59 PM

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let the product out and review in before commenting guys
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post Jun 20 2019, 02:08 PM

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I am using XM2 on one of my car. Amazing when it's new. But once pass the half way mark, it's so noisy and the grip was no where near when I was new.
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post Jun 20 2019, 02:46 PM

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i duno why so many plp. like xm2
its very expensive in its class, i mean u can get a dunlop j5, cc6, or others which performance just as good with mucj affordable price.

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post Jun 21 2019, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jun 20 2019, 02:08 PM)
I am using XM2 on one of my car. Amazing when it's new. But once pass the half way mark, it's so noisy and the grip was no where near when I was new.
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Yup. Did 54k km on them and changed them. Noisy and bad chipping at the tread face.
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post Jun 21 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Jun 20 2019, 02:46 PM)
i duno why so many plp. like xm2
its very expensive in its class, i mean u can get a dunlop j5, cc6, or others which performance just as good with mucj affordable price.
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None of them last as long as XM series and Dunlop is crap on wet roads. I drove a car with these and skidded at a highway turn off. Luckily I have Takumi godlike skills to correct the car before it rams the barrier.
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post Jun 21 2019, 11:37 PM

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Another good eco tyres to be considered - toyo neo3 , I’m on 2nd sets of them already , and it’s broader than xm2.
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post Jun 22 2019, 08:08 AM

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Last long its good but advisable to change after three years, no?
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post Jun 22 2019, 08:38 AM

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Manufacturers say 10 years or 1.6 mm residual thread depth.
Other than this is just ..opinions and bias.

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post Jun 22 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 17 2019, 10:01 PM)
Perfect tire for taxi drivers. 😂
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Assuming they don't just go for used Silverstone at sub RM100 per piece lol
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post Jun 22 2019, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 22 2019, 12:11 PM)
Assuming they don't just go for used Silverstone at sub RM100 per piece lol
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Hahaha yeah, can be less than rm50/pc actually.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 22 2019, 12:22 PM)
Hahaha yeah, can be less than rm50/pc actually.
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Yeah lol
That's crazy levels of cheap XD
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post Jun 22 2019, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Jun 20 2019, 02:46 PM)
i duno why so many plp. like xm2
its very expensive in its class, i mean u can get a dunlop j5, cc6, or others which performance just as good with mucj affordable price.
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I also think the same. The price I can get Toyo TR1, add a tiny bit getting Potenza R030.

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post Jun 22 2019, 06:04 PM

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I was quoted RM225 per piece for 195 55 15 of the XM2+.... Yokohama Advan Fleva only RM195, Potenza RE003 for RM190, Hankook Evo2 for RM185, Toyo TR1 for RM190...

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post Jun 22 2019, 08:24 PM

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Was quoted yoko bluearth rm140/pc for 185/60/14, including installation, labour, rubber valve, alignment, balancing. Should be good price I think.
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post Jun 24 2019, 03:47 PM

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looks like minor change in the tread pattern

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post Jun 25 2019, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(mym123 @ Jun 22 2019, 07:04 PM)
I was quoted RM225 per piece for 195 55 15 of the XM2+.... Yokohama Advan Fleva only RM195, Potenza RE003 for RM190, Hankook Evo2 for RM185, Toyo TR1 for RM190...
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and ps3 rm205
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post Jun 25 2019, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(mym123 @ Jun 22 2019, 06:04 PM)
I was quoted RM225 per piece for 195 55 15 of the XM2+.... Yokohama Advan Fleva only RM195, Potenza RE003 for RM190, Hankook Evo2 for RM185, Toyo TR1 for RM190...
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How long can XM2+ last? How long did XM2 last previously?

Usually UHP tyre last roughly 2~2.5 years. Some even shorter

It depends on the driver's needs.

I vote on better grip, handling & safety
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post Jun 25 2019, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jun 25 2019, 05:42 PM)
and ps3 rm205
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Which shop quote you that price? Shop located in JB?
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post Jun 26 2019, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ciypher @ Jun 25 2019, 11:56 PM)
Which shop quote you that price? Shop located in JB?
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jun 22 2019, 08:38 AM)
Manufacturers say 10 years or 1.6 mm residual thread depth.
Other than this is just ..opinions and bias.

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Wow.. all the while we're told it's 5 years but if I had Continental tires, I would try to see how long it would last.

Since my wife Rio came with CSC5, I think I would try to go for 10 years. The car has only done 13K and tires still look great. I was considering to change since tires were manufactured in 2014. Now I can be assured.
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Old XM2 any offer ? Drop in price?
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QUOTE(cybersim2 @ Jul 1 2019, 08:58 AM)
Old XM2 any offer ? Drop in price?
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yeah..cheaper now..believe its because of their new product xm2+ in market already
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jul 1 2019, 11:21 AM)
yeah..cheaper now..believe its because of their new product xm2+ in market already
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Not sure how much the pricing now for old version XM2?
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post Jul 15 2019, 10:18 AM

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anyone using this set? what is the threadwear? XM2 rated at 420.. XM2+? 450?
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QUOTE(A1700 @ Jul 14 2019, 09:42 PM)
Not sure how much the pricing now for old version XM2?
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which size?
btw, i went to the shop to see the xm2+ thread.can say almost same with xm2.they claim different material
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jul 15 2019, 06:45 PM)
which size?
btw, i went to the shop to see the xm2+ thread.can say almost same with xm2.they claim different material
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Any idea if the new material is of lower (manufacturing) cost with reduced tyre life, or otherwise ?

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post Jul 15 2019, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jul 15 2019, 06:45 PM)
which size?
btw, i went to the shop to see the xm2+ thread.can say almost same with xm2.they claim different material
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My tire size is 185 R60 15, today I just changed 2 x XM2 tyre as due to no stock for XM2+,
RM215 per pcs, free balancing, how come there is no discount for old stock even I ask them for many times?

This is Micheline dealer in Penang.

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QUOTE(A1700 @ Jul 15 2019, 08:42 PM)
My tire size is 185 R60 15, today I just changed 2 x XM2 tyre as due to no stock for XM2+,
RM215 per pcs, free balancing, how come there is no discount for old stock even I ask them for many times?

This is Micheline dealer in Penang.
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its new stock 2019 for xm2 but suppose with the lauching of xm2+,it become cheaper.
in central region your size can get rm 180+-
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jul 15 2019, 07:18 PM)
Any idea if the new material is of lower (manufacturing) cost with reduced tyre life, or otherwise ?
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according to the shop he told me different material.will be more grip and quieter although the thread design is the same
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post Jul 16 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jul 16 2019, 10:45 AM)
according to the shop he told me different material.will be more grip and quieter although the thread design is the same
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Thanks.
More grip and quieter would likely mean softer rubber material leading to shorter tyre life in relation to harder XM2.
At similar price levels I would give it a miss as I don't see having problem with so called XM2 noise.
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QUOTE(zeng @ Jul 16 2019, 12:52 PM)
Thanks.
More grip and quieter would likely mean softer rubber material leading to shorter tyre life in relation to harder XM2.
At similar price levels I would give it a miss as I don't see having problem with so called XM2 noise.
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anyway not proven yet..need to try it first. those are only comment from shop.
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QUOTE(A1700 @ Jul 15 2019, 08:42 PM)
My tire size is 185 R60 15, today I just changed 2 x XM2 tyre as due to no stock for XM2+,
RM215 per pcs, free balancing, how come there is no discount for old stock even I ask them for many times?

This is Micheline dealer in Penang.
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I think they cheated on you. All dealer will clear their old stock first.

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post Aug 2 2019, 07:42 AM

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all sifu here. Who have changed to xm2+ tyre?
does it write xm2+ on the tyre or just xm2?
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QUOTE(tancyew @ Aug 2 2019, 07:42 AM)
all sifu here. Who have changed to xm2+ tyre?
does it write xm2+ on the tyre or just xm2?
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there is a plus on the sidewall..try to look for it
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Finally put the xm2+ (175/65/R15) on my car. Same tread pattern. Was thinking of upgrade to the primacy 4 (195/60/R15) but the xm2 arrived just on time. Their price is almost same for the same tyre figures.

After 500km done, the new Xm2+ Much for silent than xm2. Because they shared the same compound with primacy4 (as well as the silence feel) and could be as silent as primacy4. Tested on the most noisy flyover that I have to take it almost everyday(few km). Before this I can’t hear the lower volume music when I on that flyover (really noisy) Now it can hear it clearly.

And the most beautiful part is.... My car readings have 2.5km/L more compare to previous tyres. 13.5Km/L become 16km/L

As for performance don’t compare with the premium sport tyres as its not gonna performs as good as ps4 ps3 or any other thinker sidewall tyres, so xm2+ are relatively weak at super fast corner, mine is 65 profile. But It still can drive quite aggressively even on the wet and brake very well. I think it’s gonna be good with 55 profiles.

The other day I hit a big holes (on both passenger side front and back tyres) the round big one without the steel cover!!! I thought my tyres with stuck in the holes!!!! Guess what? And surprisingly no issue even with the rim. This tyre can absorbs super harsh road conditions!!





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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Aug 2 2019, 12:32 PM)
there is a plus on the sidewall..try to look for it
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Thanks bro found the plus sign!
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QUOTE(yiwsg @ Aug 4 2019, 01:43 PM)
Finally put the xm2+ (175/65/R15) on my car. Same tread pattern. Was thinking of upgrade to the primacy 4 (195/60/R15) but the xm2 arrived just on time. Their price is almost same for the same tyre figures.

After 500km done, the new Xm2+ Much for silent than xm2. Because they shared the same compound with primacy4 (as well as the silence feel) and could be as silent as primacy4. Tested on the most noisy flyover that I have to take it almost everyday(few km). Before this I can’t hear the lower volume music when I on that flyover (really noisy) Now it can hear it clearly.

And the most beautiful part is.... My car readings have 2.5km/L more compare to previous tyres. 13.5Km/L become 16km/L

As for performance don’t compare with the premium sport tyres as its not gonna performs as good as ps4 ps3 or any other thinker sidewall tyres, so xm2+ are relatively weak at super fast corner, mine is 65 profile. But It still can drive quite aggressively even on the wet and brake very well. I think it’s gonna be good with 55 profiles.

The other day I hit a big holes (on both passenger side front and back tyres) the round big one without the steel cover!!! I thought my tyres with stuck in the holes!!!! Guess what? And surprisingly no issue even with the rim. This tyre can absorbs super harsh road conditions!!
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Were u able to find out the price of primacy 4 for that size? I been looking for it.

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QUOTE(yiwsg @ Aug 4 2019, 01:43 PM)
Finally put the xm2+ (175/65/R15) on my car. Same tread pattern. Was thinking of upgrade to the primacy 4 (195/60/R15) but the xm2 arrived just on time. Their price is almost same for the same tyre figures.

After 500km done, the new Xm2+ Much for silent than xm2. Because they shared the same compound with primacy4 (as well as the silence feel) and could be as silent as primacy4. Tested on the most noisy flyover that I have to take it almost everyday(few km). Before this I can’t hear the lower volume music when I on that flyover (really noisy) Now it can hear it clearly.

And the most beautiful part is.... My car readings have 2.5km/L more compare to previous tyres. 13.5Km/L become 16km/L

As for performance don’t compare with the premium sport tyres as its not gonna performs as good as ps4 ps3 or any other thinker sidewall tyres, so xm2+ are relatively weak at super fast corner, mine is 65 profile. But It still can drive quite aggressively even on the wet and brake very well. I think it’s gonna be good with 55 profiles.

The other day I hit a big holes (on both passenger side front and back tyres) the round big one without the steel cover!!! I thought my tyres with stuck in the holes!!!! Guess what? And surprisingly no issue even with the rim. This tyre can absorbs super harsh road conditions!!
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how's the thread wear like? 500km is a lot
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QUOTE(yiwsg @ Aug 4 2019, 01:43 PM)
Finally put the xm2+ (175/65/R15) on my car. Same tread pattern. Was thinking of upgrade to the primacy 4 (195/60/R15) but the xm2 arrived just on time. Their price is almost same for the same tyre figures.

After 500km done, the new Xm2+ Much for silent than xm2. Because they shared the same compound with primacy4 (as well as the silence feel) and could be as silent as primacy4. Tested on the most noisy flyover that I have to take it almost everyday(few km). Before this I can’t hear the lower volume music when I on that flyover (really noisy) Now it can hear it clearly.

And the most beautiful part is.... My car readings have 2.5km/L more compare to previous tyres. 13.5Km/L become 16km/L

As for performance don’t compare with the premium sport tyres as its not gonna performs as good as ps4 ps3 or any other thinker sidewall tyres, so xm2+ are relatively weak at super fast corner, mine is 65 profile. But It still can drive quite aggressively even on the wet and brake very well. I think it’s gonna be good with 55 profiles.

The other day I hit a big holes (on both passenger side front and back tyres) the round big one without the steel cover!!! I thought my tyres with stuck in the holes!!!! Guess what? And surprisingly no issue even with the rim. This tyre can absorbs super harsh road conditions!!
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Plan to change to Michelin XM2 Plus soon as well, from Proton's stock Silverstone sweat.gif ; but the price right now seems a little high, so may wait for another couple of months.

Thanks for the review.
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post Aug 25 2019, 09:28 PM

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Posting for pricing reference, change to XM2+ yesterday at Melaka. Total price for 4 wheels are RM900 including alignment. Size 185/55/16



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Just wondering hows the different between cc6 and xm2+ . My cc6 already due to change. Am looking for comfort and silent ride

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QUOTE(gahpadu @ Aug 25 2019, 09:35 PM)
Just wondering  hows the different between cc6 and xm2+ . My cc6 already due to change. Am looking for comfort and silent ride
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obviously cc6 is more quiet and comfort compare to xm2+
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Aug 26 2019, 11:07 AM)
obviously cc6 is more quiet and comfort compare to xm2+
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just change XM2+, 215/60/16...per piece is 292 plus installation and balancing...

4 tyres changes sekali, $1168 gone............
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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Aug 30 2019, 01:45 PM)
just change XM2+, 215/60/16...per piece is 292 plus installation and balancing...

4 tyres changes sekali, $1168 gone............
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interesting price sir. plan to get xm2+ in 205/60/15 soon
if you don't mind, share the name & location of the shop?
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QUOTE(chaosrobot @ Sep 1 2019, 07:23 PM)
interesting price sir. plan to get xm2+ in 205/60/15 soon
if you don't mind, share the name & location of the shop?
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google for oscar tyre, at persiaran kemuning (Shah Alam) Area. this place is famous with throwing price. better go earlier, long waiting Q...good luck

initially wan to try good year, but they don have stock. so go back to Michelin xm2.
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 25 2019, 09:28 PM)
Posting for pricing reference, change to XM2+ yesterday at Melaka. Total price for 4 wheels are RM900 including alignment. Size 185/55/16
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Hi, may I get the pm on which shop in melaka for the price? Thanks alot.
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why xm2+ 195/60/r16 so expensive
lazada 35x to shop nearby 380 per pc
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changed at Hing Leong klang kedai papan with credit card payment total : RM858

185/55R16 x 4 + alignment



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QUOTE(nicklim17 @ Sep 8 2019, 01:36 PM)
why xm2+ 195/60/r16 so expensive
lazada 35x to shop nearby 380 per pc
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try shop around shah alam..rm 33x
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 22 2019, 12:22 PM)
Hahaha yeah, can be less than rm50/pc actually.
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cant be brand new? where to angkat gotany tauke sell that price?
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QUOTE(chaosrobot @ Sep 1 2019, 11:23 AM)
interesting price sir. plan to get xm2+ in 205/60/15 soon
if you don't mind, share the name & location of the shop?
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205/60/15 is passenger car tyre or van?

Arent it thick and tall? Havent seen one yet
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How's the noise level for this tyre?

My priority is quite and comfort, and I don't drive fast, should I get this tyre?

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Oct 31 2019, 01:12 AM)
How's the noise level for this tyre?

My priority is quite and comfort, and I don't drive fast, should I get this tyre?
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After 70000-80000 km it is a bit noisy .
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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 31 2019, 02:06 PM)
After 70000-80000 km it is a bit noisy .
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He's asking the improved version XM2+, I think yours the previous XM2?
Supposed XM2+ improved compound should be much better I guess...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 31 2019, 03:43 PM)
He's asking the improved version XM2+, I think yours the previous XM2?
Supposed XM2+ improved compound should be much better I guess...
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Oops , yes mine is XM2 .
Someone here quoted sources saying XM2+ is said to be quieter than XM2 , so I would speculate its rubber compound is softer with shorter tyre life .
Maybe someone can enlighten us XM2+ wear index ??
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Oops , yes mine is XM2 .
Someone here quoted sources saying XM2+ is said to be quieter than XM2 , so I would speculate its rubber compound is softer with shorter tyre life .
Maybe someone can enlighten us XM2+  wear index ??
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Just changed to XM2+ 185/60/R15. Threadwear 420.
Initial impression it's superb quiet, much quieter than another "green eco saving" tyre.
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Just changed to XM2+ 185/60/R15. Threadwear 420.
Initial impression it's superb quiet, much quieter than another "green eco saving" tyre.
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Wow, maintaining 420 threadwear with improved noise reduction ?
That's a bonus .
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 2 2019, 01:26 PM)
Just changed to XM2+ 185/60/R15. Threadwear 420.
Initial impression it's superb quiet, much quieter than another "green eco saving" tyre.
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but how much per donut?
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Wow, maintaining 420 threadwear with improved noise reduction ? 
That's a bonus .
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i dunno previous XM2, I'm comparing with other brand. "Massive" noise reduction now I can hear my car's absorber working psst psst when driving 80km/h.

QUOTE(spreeeee @ Nov 5 2019, 01:42 PM)
but how much per donut?
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i bought 190. can get cheaper 182 but the place quite far +-30km single trip so not worth to travel so far
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Just change mine 195/55/55 @210 @kajang. Still very new for review
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XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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i think it is a good price, mind sharing shop name and address? can pm me pls?
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going to change XM2+ 185/55/15...
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 13 2019, 12:26 AM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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May i know where is the shop ?
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i think it is a good price, mind sharing shop name and address? can pm me pls?
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Sure. Done.

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I was quoted RM200 each 175/65 R15 which include of balancing, alignment and valve if I change 4 tyres. Not sure is cheap or not. Shop in Puchong.

Tyre shop in Klang quoted me RM 190 each which inclusive of Balancing & rubber valve only.

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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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alignment included, and valve?
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alignment included, and valve?
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Based on my past experience, when changing 4 tyres at 1 go, this shop usually quote the price inclusive of balancing, alignment & new rubber valve for each new tyre.

However, my car didn't need alignment this time after test drive. Partly because last balancing & alignment was done not long ago (less than 1k km), and I use back my own metal valve.

I know many tyre shops use the following technic to attract customer at borderline of dishonest way:
1. Very cheap tyre with hidden cost. Cut our throat at balancing / alignment / etc.
2. Must adjust chamber or else can't do alignment properly. In most cases, this is bullshit. smile.gif

But this shop is not 1 of them, at least in my opinion for so many years. If you're really keen to change this month (since price may fluctuates monthly), I can help you to find out the nett price. You may PM me your tyre specification and other services you want to include.
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i dunno previous XM2, I'm comparing with other brand. "Massive" noise reduction now I can hear my car's absorber working psst psst when driving 80km/h.
i bought 190. can get cheaper 182 but the place quite far +-30km single trip so not worth to travel so far
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Comparing with which brand? On the noise reduction..
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XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

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Where please smile.gif TIA
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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Pls share the shop, tq
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replaced mine 185/60 r15 last week, initial impressions, felt heavier than the previous ecopia 150, but really quiet and grip is good as well, no significant difference in FC
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Is the heavier feeling comes from the installed tyre pressure being on the lower end ?
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is xm2+ the best money can buy for 175/65/15 & 185/55/15? if money if not an issue, is there any other better alternatives? choices are so limited for these 2 sizes
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Is the heavier feeling comes from the installed tyre pressure being on the lower end ?
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nah, checked and adjusted tyre pressure immediately after the installation, maybe the previous EP150 was really that bald theres not much rolling resistance i'm not sure it sure as hell doesn't look that bad.

in fact i might go as far as saying FC improved
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nah, checked and adjusted tyre pressure immediately after the installation, maybe the previous EP150 was really that bald theres not much rolling resistance i'm not sure it sure as hell doesn't look that bad.

in fact i might go as far as saying FC improved
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Without obtaining confirmation from you numerically , I would speculate car OEM manufacturer recommended 30/32(?) psi is being followed by the air 'pumper' .

At tyre manufacturer permitted psi of say, 36 - 40 the car steering simply can't be heavier , doesn't matter China or Michelin tyres .

Science suggests rolling resistance of brand new soft tyres increases relatively to your 'throw away' hardened tyres , everything else being equal .

Your statement in bold above is contrarian to science .

Edit: Am not trying to be argumentative ( with your statement in bold) , but to straighten up the wrong to the right .

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 19 2019, 12:46 PM)
Without obtaining confirmation from you numerically , I would speculate car OEM manufacturer recommended 30/32(?) psi is being followed by the air 'pumper' .

At tyre manufacturer permitted psi of say, 36 - 40 the car steering simply can't be heavier , doesn't matter China or Michelin tyres .

Science suggests rolling resistance of brand new soft tyres increases relatively to your 'throw away' hardened tyres , everything else being equal .

Your statement in bold above is contrarian to science .

Edit: Am not trying to be argumentative ( with your statement in bold) , but to straighten up the wrong to the right .
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that's quite alright, you learn something new everyday.

I mean my experiences are purely based on my layman understanding, the new Xm2+ definitely felt heavier than the previous ones but FC did improve.

All in all, pretty happy with it but lets see long term usage, i did have XM2s before and they were good while new but after a certain amount of time, it became very loud, lasting yes, but loud also a resounding yes lol
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this tyre good for highway driving?
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M looking for xm2+ 205/55/16. Anyone know any reliable tyre shop in puchong?
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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PM me the address please.tq
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this tyre good for highway driving?
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yes....use it for my sienta...

a bit noisy..but comfort and grip
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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May i know that Klang shop name? thanks
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yes....use it for my sienta...

a bit noisy..but comfort and grip
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noisy? oh wow... you using XM2 or XM2+? or your car wheel bearing not good already?
Can't believe noisy, mine currently still "noiseless". only wtf the wind noise now damn loud because now no tyre noise.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2019, 12:31 PM)
noisy? oh wow... you using XM2 or XM2+? or your car wheel bearing not good already?
Can't believe noisy, mine currently still "noiseless". only wtf the wind noise now damn loud because now no tyre noise..  tongue.gif
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I was using XM2. When new >50% of thread, it's very quiet and nice but once it reaches more than half of it's life, it gets real noisy.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2019, 12:31 PM)
noisy? oh wow... you using XM2 or XM2+? or your car wheel bearing not good already?
Can't believe noisy, mine currently still "noiseless". only wtf the wind noise now damn loud because now no tyre noise..  tongue.gif
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Xm2+..

Im comparing with my prev bridgestone tyre..

In term of quietness...bridgestone > michelin..

But in term of handling in hot and rainy..xm2+ way better
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Xm2+..

Im comparing with my prev bridgestone tyre..

In term of quietness...bridgestone > michelin..

But in term of handling in hot and rainy..xm2+ way better
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Which Bridgestone model?
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Which Bridgestone model?
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Turanza er33
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Turanza er33
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I see, Bridgestone ER33 used to be premium touring tyre, for those Camry, Accord luxury car.
XM2+ is actually same range with Ecopia EP300, budget economic tyre (expensive due to Michelin brand). For direct replacement of your previous ER33, it should be Primacy 4 series which also designed for luxury car.
However, i'm still amazed with the silence of this XM2+ on my Polo Sedan, it was so silent until I can hear my shock absorber working psst psst driving on 80km/h above :-)
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 14 2019, 07:58 PM)
Based on my past experience, when changing 4 tyres at 1 go, this shop usually quote the price inclusive of balancing, alignment & new rubber valve for each new tyre.

However, my car didn't need alignment this time after test drive. Partly because last balancing & alignment was done not long ago (less than 1k km), and I use back my own metal valve.

I know many tyre shops use the following technic to attract customer at borderline of dishonest way:
1. Very cheap tyre with hidden cost. Cut our throat at balancing / alignment / etc.
2. Must adjust chamber or else can't do alignment properly. In most cases, this is bullshit. smile.gif

But this shop is not 1 of them, at least in my opinion for so many years. If you're really keen to change this month (since price may fluctuates monthly), I can help you to find out the nett price. You may PM me your tyre specification and other services you want to include.
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Can recommend any in Kepong or pj area for xm2+ 185/55/15?

This post has been edited by icebabycool: Dec 23 2019, 09:52 AM
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Can recommend any in Kepong or pj area for xm2+ 185/55/15?
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This size almost rm200++.
Very expensive.
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Oscar tires in BKT Kemuning sells Michelin XM 2 plus 185/60 R15 for RM159 including balancing.

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Oscar tires in BKT Kemuning sells Michelin XM 2 plus 185/60 R15 for RM159 including balancing.
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Seriously cheap though without alignment.
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Seriously cheap though without alignment.
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Alignment & balancing I recommend PJT Auto Service Sdn Bhd. Excellent craftsmanship.
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Oscar tires in BKT Kemuning sells Michelin XM 2 plus 185/60 R15 for RM159 including balancing.
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Value worth for your money..

Could you let us know what is the ties manufactured date and month?

Make sure got XM2 plus ( +, +) , not just XM2..
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I used Michelin XM for 4 years, first two years was more quiet and comfort with low mileage. Once it reached 20k km above, it started to get noisier and harder feeling. By the time it reached 4 years, the side wall of 4 tires were cracking a bit, though the threads are ok.

Not sure xm2 + has improved on this ?
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QUOTE(ITforce @ Dec 28 2019, 07:19 PM)
I used Michelin XM for 4 years, first two years was more quiet and comfort with low mileage. Once it reached 20k km above, it started to get noisier and harder feeling. By the time it reached 4 years, the side wall of 4 tires were cracking a bit, though the threads are ok.

Not sure xm2 + has improved on this ?
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Too early to tell as it just launched 3 months back. For now mine still quiet.

You can recheck here after next year, haha.
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Just changed mine from Primact ST3 to this XM2+ at Oscar Tyre. Why XM2+? Because they don't have stock for Primacy4. Too bad though...... So decided to give XM2+ a try. My tire size is 205 55 R16. Total damage = Tire (RM259 each) + rubber plug (RM5 each) + aligment (Rm20). Use credit for tires with 2% charge. The price is really reasonble and I don't think can it else where.

It is no doubt and no fair comparison between the new XM2+ against the 5 years old ST3. XM2+ is more quieter, comfort, less bumpy after installation. Just feel that the tire should not the type very quiet tyre but acceptable level at this price range. Let see how it goes after 2~3 years usage.
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QUOTE(Zer0 c00L @ Nov 21 2019, 11:21 AM)
that's quite alright, you learn something new everyday.

I mean my experiences are purely based on my layman understanding, the new Xm2+ definitely felt heavier than the previous ones but FC did improve.

All in all, pretty happy with it but lets see long term usage, i did have XM2s before and they were good while new but after a certain amount of time, it became very loud, lasting yes, but loud also a resounding yes lol
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New tyre will definitely feel heavier than almost bald ones.

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New tyre will definitely feel heavier than almost bald ones.
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FC improved bcos any new tyre offer better grip. All tyres of same size usually give similiar FC rate.
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hi, may I know how much for Michelin XM2+ for size below? Can provide the name of the shop too
185/55/R16
195/50/R16
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QUOTE(JojoBubu @ Dec 27 2019, 03:13 PM)
Oscar tires in BKT Kemuning sells Michelin XM 2 plus 185/60 R15 for RM159 including balancing.
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not as good luck as you. changed 4pcs 185/60/R14 for RM159 each without balancing and also rubber valve RM5/pcs.
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QUOTE(edtai @ Jan 1 2020, 04:10 PM)
Just changed mine from Primact ST3 to this XM2+ at Oscar Tyre. Why XM2+? Because they don't have stock for Primacy4. Too bad though...... So decided to give XM2+ a try. My tire size is 205 55 R16. Total damage = Tire (RM259 each) + rubber plug (RM5 each) + aligment (Rm20). Use credit for tires with 2% charge. The price is really reasonble and I don't think can it else where.

It is no doubt and no fair comparison between the new XM2+ against the 5 years old ST3. XM2+ is more quieter, comfort, less bumpy after installation. Just feel that the tire should not the type very quiet tyre but acceptable level at this price range. Let see how it goes after 2~3 years usage.
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XM2+ for your size is really cheap.. Assuming total is about RM290.. where is ur location?
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XM2+ for your size is really cheap.. Assuming total is about RM290.. where is ur location?
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Oscar tyre at Klang.
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nothing can beat oscar tyre pricing..i know it because i do a lot of survey on all of my cars.
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Some said Oscar service is poor.
Is it true?
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Some said Oscar service is poor.
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exactly.the first time i went there,deal with them hankook v12 but when reach there they dont have tyres.suggest me to use rovelo.they said it is same good as v12.i didnt buy.went to another shop.the second time went there buy michelin ps4.price is cheaper compare to other shop but service terrible.wait for 3.5hours.apart from that,ask me to change lower arm and absorbers because they are spoilt.later on check with my foreman,those parts are okay.
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jan 14 2020, 06:51 PM)
exactly.the first time i went there,deal with them hankook v12 but when reach there they dont have tyres.suggest me to use rovelo.they said it is same good as v12.i didnt buy.went to another shop.the second time went there buy michelin ps4.price is cheaper compare to other shop but service terrible.wait for 3.5hours.apart from that,ask me to change lower arm and absorbers because they are spoilt.later on check with my foreman,those parts are okay.
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2 of my friends went and they were asked to change that too. Both changed.

Really annoy with this type of legal con
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jan 14 2020, 06:51 PM)
exactly.the first time i went there,deal with them hankook v12 but when reach there they dont have tyres.suggest me to use rovelo.they said it is same good as v12.i didnt buy.went to another shop.the second time went there buy michelin ps4.price is cheaper compare to other shop but service terrible.wait for 3.5hours.apart from that,ask me to change lower arm and absorbers because they are spoilt.later on check with my foreman,those parts are okay.
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2 of my friends went and they were asked to change that too. Both changed.

Really annoy with this type of legal con
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2 of my friends went and they were asked to change that too. Both changed.

Really annoy with this type of legal con
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too bad.they are famous for cheap tyre but also famous for con job and terrible service.many review said they scratch their rims,lost their lock nut etc.
so the next time i change tyre i went back to my regular place.expensive a little but get good services.fair to say,u get what u paid for,but acceptable for me.
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That's terrible .
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QUOTE(wilson1989 @ Jan 6 2020, 07:07 PM)
hi, may I know how much for Michelin XM2+ for size below? Can provide the name of the shop too
185/55/R16
195/50/R16
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Lately I surveyed the 185/55/R16 XM2+ at SKC Ampang Waterfront, quoted me RM212 per piece including tyre balancing.
I don’t know about 195/50/R16 price.
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Hi everyone,

I changed my 175/65r14 XM2 tyres to XM2+

I realize that they are doing a strange noise, seems like they are sticking to the road. Some guys said me that new tyres do it, but I have done 150KM now and they keep doing the same noise.

Did this happen to anyone else?
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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Jan 14 2020, 03:44 PM)
Some said Oscar service is poor.
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Nothing is more true than this. Just changed 4x pilot sport 4 205/50R16 @ RM336 excluding the rubber valves.

Things they "sold" to me
1. Your rims are dented, we can fix it
2. Your alignment is out & we couldn't fix it without a special "screw"

I refused both, & they didn't do a good alignment ( I could read from the monitor)

Conclusion: just buy the tires from them & do the fixing etc at the workshop you trust.
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QUOTE(JojoBubu @ Jan 17 2020, 08:06 PM)
Nothing is more true than this. Just changed 4x pilot sport 4  205/50R16 @ RM336 excluding the rubber valves.

Things they "sold" to me
1. Your rims are dented, we can fix it
2. Your alignment is out & we couldn't fix it without a special "screw"

I refused both, & they didn't do a good alignment ( I could  read from the monitor)

Conclusion: just buy the tires from them & do the fixing  etc at  the workshop you trust.
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Their price is just too competitive compare to other.

Do other shop accept installation without buying their tyre?
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QUOTE(bolipo @ Jan 17 2020, 07:21 PM)
Hi everyone,

I changed my 175/65r14 XM2 tyres to XM2+

I realize that they are doing a strange noise, seems like they are sticking to the road. Some guys said me that new tyres do it, but I have done 150KM now and they keep doing the same noise.

Did this happen to anyone else?
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Does it sound as if your tyre have a layer of glue and when moving making some weird sticky/mushy like noise? My current Primacy3ST have the same ’sticky noise’ and it’s where the same silica compound xm2+ get from. I believe it is for noise deadening as my previous set with PS3 does not have this effect and make much more road noise.
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QUOTE(boysrule @ Jan 19 2020, 02:10 AM)
Does it sound as if your tyre have a layer of glue and when moving making some weird sticky/mushy like noise? My current Primacy3ST have the same ’sticky noise’ and it’s where the same silica compound xm2+ get from. I believe it is for noise deadening as my previous set with PS3 does not have this effect and make much more road noise.
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Yep, exactly.

So that sound never goes away? It bothers a lot in the city with the window down.
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QUOTE(bolipo @ Jan 19 2020, 06:00 AM)
Yep, exactly.

So that sound never goes away? It bothers a lot in the city with the window down.
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It doesn’t but well think positively, that small noise over there helped you reduced a lot of dreadful road noise. I’m okay with it😄

Thanks for mentioning about the ‘noise’, now we can confirm indeed xm2+ have been upgraded with the silica compound from its primacy siblings. Hope it means better nvh + wet grip. I’m gonna change it to my other car soon.
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QUOTE(bolipo @ Jan 19 2020, 06:00 AM)
Yep, exactly.

So that sound never goes away? It bothers a lot in the city with the window down.
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Never drove the car with window down. But XM2+ in my car is so quiet at 80km/h until I hearing my front absorber working psst psst psst especially driving on those bumpy Putrajaya > Puchong route.
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QUOTE(boysrule @ Jan 19 2020, 10:30 AM)
It doesn’t but well think positively, that small noise over there helped you reduced a lot of dreadful road noise. I’m okay with it😄

Thanks for mentioning about the ‘noise’, now we can confirm indeed xm2+ have been upgraded with the silica compound from its primacy siblings. Hope it means better nvh + wet grip. I’m gonna change it to my other car soon.
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About it you are right lol
I had xm2 in my car and changed to xm2+. The xm2+ is so much quieter.

I realize that the noise was louder in the first km, now with 300km is more quiet. I can heard yet, but is very low now.

QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 19 2020, 08:47 PM)
Never drove the car with window down. But XM2+ in my car is so quiet at 80km/h until I hearing my front absorber working psst psst psst especially driving on those bumpy Putrajaya > Puchong route.
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Yes, xm2+ is very silent, I'm impressed.
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Just changed it at cheras
205/55/R16 RM290
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FAMILIAR TREAD PATTERN FOR XM2+ hmm.gif
Paying TRIBUTE TO MICHELIN CERTIS perhaps?

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Seen XM2+ in flesh. Totally different design compared to Certis.
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Please share the shop name and location. Tq


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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Jan 31 2020, 12:20 PM)
Just changed it at cheras
205/55/R16 RM290
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do you know the price fo 15 inch ?
or you able to provide the contact/address of the shop?
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xm2+ how much now? size 185 55 r15
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do you know the price fo 15 inch ?
or you able to provide the contact/address of the shop?
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depend size.
if 195 55 15 usually sellling around rm 190+-
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I have changed to xm2 + after using xm2 for almost 4 years and 80k km. Using 185/65 R15 standard size although been recommended to change to 195/55. But i prefer every thing at stock and standard. There are probably about 2 - 3 mm left at the TWI but there are chipping here and there and i think its time to change.

Cost RM180 per donut after nego from RM185. Free balancing and alignment and steel valves at TMK Rawang. Took Thailand made (week 45/19) rather than China although China ones were newer by a few weeks. China made got yellow and green lines on the thread which i was told would disappear after a few km of driving.

Looks very similar to xm2 except for a + on the side wall. Very silent and hopefully can last at least another 80k km.
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I recently changed 185/55 R16 wheel from my local car workshop at RM270 including everything.

Old stock Conti Premium Contact was chipping away so dont feel good using it.

Is that the normal price since the price is on the less common size?

Had previous experience in XM2+ and XM2 at smaller wheel size. So roughly know what to expect.

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XM2+ are excellent. Soundless at top speed
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Feb 17 2020, 02:29 PM)
XM2+ are excellent. Soundless at top speed
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How fast your top speed? For me currently 110 is quiet, hope to keep it like this..
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How fast your top speed? For me currently 110 is quiet, hope to keep it like this..
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but doesn't perform so well when taking fast corners
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QUOTE(peguin78 @ Feb 15 2020, 08:42 PM)
I have changed to xm2 + after using xm2 for almost 4 years and 80k km.  Using 185/65 R15 standard size although been recommended to change to 195/55. But i prefer every thing at stock and standard. There are probably about 2 - 3 mm left at the TWI but there are chipping here and there and i think its time to change.

Cost RM180 per donut after nego from RM185. Free balancing and alignment and steel valves at TMK Rawang.  Took Thailand made (week 45/19) rather than China although China ones were newer by a few weeks. China made got yellow and green lines on the thread which i was told would disappear after a few km of driving.

Looks very similar to xm2 except for a + on the side wall.  Very silent and hopefully can last at least another 80k km.
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Wow, how to know made in thailand or china beside those lines.

any different thailand & China?
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Feb 18 2020, 10:50 AM)
but doesn't perform so well when taking fast corners
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I thought my car's suspension not so good, you got such sensation as well? feel like more body roll during highway corners.
i think yoko es32 better a bit in cornering...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 18 2020, 02:58 PM)
I thought my car's suspension not so good, you got such sensation as well? feel like more body roll during highway corners.
i think yoko es32 better a bit in cornering...
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feel like on ship
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Feb 18 2020, 11:52 AM)
Wow, how to know made in thailand or china beside those lines.

any different thailand & China?
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Can check on the tyre itself. "Made in xxxx"
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QUOTE(peguin78 @ Feb 18 2020, 05:58 PM)
Can check on the tyre itself. "Made in xxxx"
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Can show urs? I can’t find it
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 18 2020, 02:58 PM)
I thought my car's suspension not so good, you got such sensation as well? feel like more body roll during highway corners.
i think yoko es32 better a bit in cornering...
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Yokohama es32 indeed very stable when corner on high speed, even during rain. Made in Japan.
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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Feb 19 2020, 07:35 AM)
Yokohama es32 indeed very stable when corner on high speed, even during rain. Made in Japan.
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yes, ES32 wet handling quite good for eco comfort tyre, just that it isn't quiet. after change to XM2+ I was surprised by so much quieter my ride now.
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Feb 18 2020, 11:55 PM)
Can show urs? I can’t find it
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Printed on the tyre on the "inner" side not on "outside" side of the tyre. You may need to take out the tyre from the car to see it.
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I noticed when langgar lubang sounds is loud snd unpleasant
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Changed 2 donuts..215 60 r16 rm340 per donut all in
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How does xm2+ perform compare to assurance triple max 2?
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Iam using Dunlop j5 now, would you say that xm2 plus is an upgrade?
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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can share location please? thanks!!
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can share location please?  thanks!!
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Shared.
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Pm too
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any photo or latest review for this XM2 + after 6 months / 1 year?
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if used before XM2 and got budget to continue just go for XM2 plus you won't regret it

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just changed to XM2+ after pondering long time (my experience with xm2 wasn't the best to say the least)
cause many say this is the most durable model on this size range. XM2+ 185/55/16, RM189 each
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QUOTE([email protected] @ Jul 5 2020, 02:26 PM)
just changed to XM2+ after pondering long time (my experience with xm2 wasn't the best to say the least)
cause many say this is the most durable model on this size range.  XM2+ 185/55/16, RM189 each
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Very cheap price
May i know where’s the location?
Wish to change mine soon sweat.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 19 2020, 09:06 AM)
yes, ES32 wet handling quite good for eco comfort tyre, just that it isn't quiet. after change to XM2+ I was surprised by so much quieter my ride now.
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hi, is XM2 + better in wet handling compare to ES32. Thinking of changing to XM2 + or Yokohama ES32. thanks
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QUOTE(KvinC @ Jul 8 2020, 05:58 PM)
hi, is XM2 + better in wet handling compare to ES32. Thinking of changing to XM2 + or Yokohama ES32. thanks
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Rarely got chance outstation with XM2+ due to this covid-19 pandemic, think only once or twice outstation met heavy rain driving highway with XM2+.
in my memory ES32 wet handling better, 2018-2019 especially I always night driving outstation, met a few times heavy rain and still feel confident car in-control, but not so on XM2+, just my feel.
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Just check with tyre shop that now the xm2+ is imported from China factory not Thailand. Does anyone get the China made this year?
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Can ask if anybody changed tyres before at Michelin dealer Performance Tyre Malaysia (PTM)? Their price from Lazada is really good but I have concern if they will try to upsell me or else do a shoddy job.
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Just installed mine in Kota Bharu. 205/55 R16 X 4, total damage RM 1200. PM if interested for name of shop.
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what are the alternative to this unit brand from competitor brand (ie Hankook or any other) ?
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bought 4pcs size 195/55r15 for my sister alza this week at oscar tyre for rm185 each. only realized made in china during installation at other shop.. really sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KvinC @ Jul 8 2020, 05:58 PM)
hi, is XM2 + better in wet handling compare to ES32. Thinking of changing to XM2 + or Yokohama ES32. thanks
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hi bro.. ended up u choose which tyre? me too in the same situation haha
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Just install 186-60-14 xm2+, what is the recommend psi/air pressure?
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QUOTE(skyvisionz @ Jul 25 2020, 03:17 PM)
Just install 186-60-14 xm2+, what is the recommend psi/air pressure?
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Check your owners manual or look for a sticker on the driver side door sill/B pillar.
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QUOTE(Knowledge Zenith @ Jul 26 2020, 11:21 AM)
Check your owners manual or look for a sticker on the driver side door sill/B pillar.
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The psi still same even i change the tyre size?
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QUOTE(skyvisionz @ Jul 25 2020, 03:17 PM)
Just install 186-60-14 xm2+, what is the recommend psi/air pressure?
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Call up the tire shop and ask for the recommended psi, since you bought the tire from the shop
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QUOTE(skyvisionz @ Jul 26 2020, 11:28 AM)
The psi still same even i change the tyre size?
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May likely be not the same , but ....................

QUOTE(Knowledge Zenith @ Jul 26 2020, 11:21 AM)
Check your owners manual or look for a sticker on the driver side door sill/B pillar.
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.... must be addressed pointedly .
Besides , new tyre brand or specs would be required too without guessing .

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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Jul 25 2020, 02:32 PM)
hi bro.. ended up u choose which tyre? me too in the same situation haha
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Hi bro, i haven change yet lol. Planning to change in few month time, so now doing research.
Still dont know which to choose yet biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KvinC @ Jul 27 2020, 12:41 PM)
Hi bro, i haven change yet lol. Planning to change in few month time, so now doing research.
Still dont know which to choose yet  biggrin.gif
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i think i have made up my mind for XM2+.. tongue.gif

wet grip for both should be similar, bluearth has harder sidewall = better cornering / XM2+ softer sidewall = more silent + absorb bump / good for bad road

I once a while speeding but everyday fetch children and drive through lousy road

Currently on Toyo Neo3, overall quite good, betting money on this XM2+ for better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Nov 2 2019, 01:26 PM)
Just changed to XM2+ 185/60/R15. Threadwear 420.
Initial impression it's superb quiet, much quieter than another "green eco saving" tyre.
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hi bro..how does ur xm2+ hold up after 1year? is it still very quiet and bite the road well? yours is made in thailand?
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Aug 2 2020, 01:31 PM)
hi bro..how does ur xm2+ hold up after 1year? is it still very quiet and bite the road well? yours is made in thailand?
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I would say due to covid-19 pandemic, I travel lesser this year and zero outstation. So far only daily to Putrajaya for work 60km round trip. Yes it's still quiet but not as silent as new, can hear little bit of road surface noise. So far dry gripping still ok, but I preferred wet gripping from the earlier brand. Overall satisfied with the tyre with the price I purchased, not sure what is the latest pricing tho.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 2 2020, 04:25 PM)
I would say due to covid-19 pandemic, I travel lesser this year and zero outstation. So far only daily to Putrajaya for work 60km round trip. Yes it's still quiet but not as silent as new, can hear little bit of road surface noise. So far dry gripping still ok, but I preferred wet gripping from the earlier brand. Overall satisfied with the tyre with the price I purchased, not sure what is the latest pricing tho.
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thanks for reply! we need more user review like this..

previous model ES32? if redo the choice again, which one will you choose?

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Do you mind to share the location too ?
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thanks for reply! we need more user review like this..

previous model ES32? if redo the choice again, which one will you choose?
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Yes you guess right on the model.
Depends on your requirement, silent or wet gripping. For me I would prefer wet gripping, feel safe last year on frequent outstation to Cameron project trips and met thunderstorm.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 2 2020, 08:21 PM)
Yes you guess right on the model.
Depends on your requirement, silent or wet gripping. For me I would prefer wet gripping, feel safe last year on frequent outstation to Cameron project trips and met thunderstorm.
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alamak thinking of xm2+.. now u shake my mind haha..

thx a lot for your solid input
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Any good recommendation of shop around cheras area for XM2+? Gonna get it for my one week old city. The stock tyre is just too thin. Best if they can trade in my old tyre also.
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Tagged in my new XM2+ here
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...660251&st=9893#

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Should I go for XM2+(RM170/piece) or Yokohama ES32 (RM130/piece)? I'm torn inbetween.

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Should I go for XM2+(RM170/piece) or Yokohama ES32 (RM130/piece)? I'm torn inbetween.
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if budget issue, es32 is equally good = get made in japan one..
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if budget issue, es32 is equally good = get made in japan one..
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Thanks for the reply. How is the made in Philippines ES32 worse?
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Currently using xm2 195/60/15, should I change to xm2+ or primacy st4 or some other brand?

Prefer comfort, less noise and reasonable good wet grip
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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 14 2019, 07:58 PM)
Based on my past experience, when changing 4 tyres at 1 go, this shop usually quote the price inclusive of balancing, alignment & new rubber valve for each new tyre.

However, my car didn't need alignment this time after test drive. Partly because last balancing & alignment was done not long ago (less than 1k km), and I use back my own metal valve.

I know many tyre shops use the following technic to attract customer at borderline of dishonest way:
1. Very cheap tyre with hidden cost. Cut our throat at balancing / alignment / etc.
2. Must adjust chamber or else can't do alignment properly. In most cases, this is bullshit. smile.gif

But this shop is not 1 of them, at least in my opinion for so many years. If you're really keen to change this month (since price may fluctuates monthly), I can help you to find out the nett price. You may PM me your tyre specification and other services you want to include.
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Mind sharing this shop? I'm no tyre expert but looking to change tyres for my old Honda City 2006. Tyre specs 185/55R15. Other than XM2+ is there a comparable cheaper brand?
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post Aug 19 2020, 12:18 PM

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Hi guys.
How is XM2+ compared to yoko Bluearth?

Got quoted RM180 per pc.

Size is r14 185/60
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post Aug 19 2020, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(suffeylp @ Aug 19 2020, 12:18 PM)
Hi guys.
How is XM2+ compared to yoko Bluearth?

Got quoted RM180 per pc.

Size is r14 185/60
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That is good buy, for I paid RM 235 each for 185/75R14 some 2 years back .
It surely can give you > 100,000 km usage basing on tyre manufacturers' specified Tyre Wear Indicator recommendation .

Edit:Oops, tyre size was 185/70R14 .

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 12 2020, 10:26 AM
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change last jun at near puchong 175/65r14 -

RM733 align,balance n valve
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I just change tyre from good year to michelin energy xm3+ , hopefully can last at least 3/4 years.. btw, during covid19, tyre price a bit high at JB area.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 16 2020, 12:31 PM)
Can ask if anybody changed tyres before at Michelin dealer Performance Tyre Malaysia (PTM)? Their price from Lazada is really good but I have concern if they will try to upsell me or else do a shoddy job.
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bought 4pcs xm2+ (175/65/r14) from their Lazada shop during 9.9 sale.

after nett off all voucher, total RM621 for 4pcs
at shop during installation, add on alignment for RM25 and 4pcs rubber valve for RM20.
So total come up to RM167 per pc including service tax.


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I was went to tyre shop to replace my Honda City 4pcs tyres to Michelin XM2+, size 195/55R15 for RM1,000 at last month.
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QUOTE(hokc77 @ Sep 11 2020, 09:27 PM)
bought 4pcs xm2+ (175/65/r14) from their Lazada shop during 9.9 sale.

after nett off all voucher, total RM621 for 4pcs
at shop during installation, add on alignment for RM25 and 4pcs rubber valve for RM20.
So total come up to RM167 per pc including service tax.
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Oic. I ady changed 2 months back dy but at different shop. I called PTM asking for a size slightly bigger than my car stock tyres (cheaper too) but they seem reluctant to sell me and then try push Conti CC6 to me so instead I went to another shop. tongue.gif

Slightly more expensive tho

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Just change to XM2+. Tyre profile 195/60R16. One tyre RM 350. Change all 4 cost RM 1.4 k. FoC Michelin umbrella.

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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 12 2019, 11:26 PM)
XM2+ 185/60R14. Just changed all 4 tyres at RM 170 each, inclusive of balancing at Klang. I was quoted RM 180 during Oct.

Not sure if this price is cheaper than most. Just FYI.
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Hi, can you pm me the shop on this 170 for xm2+. thanks
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QUOTE(hokc77 @ Sep 11 2020, 09:27 PM)
bought 4pcs xm2+ (175/65/r14) from their Lazada shop during 9.9 sale.

after nett off all voucher, total RM621 for 4pcs
at shop during installation, add on alignment for RM25 and 4pcs rubber valve for RM20.
So total come up to RM167 per pc including service tax.
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hello. is there any tax on alingment and rubber valve ? since Rm621. you pay thru lazada. So on the shop itself you just pay rm45 right ? Is balancing foc ??
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QUOTE(ckokwei @ Sep 24 2020, 12:32 AM)
hello. is there any tax on alingment and rubber valve ? since Rm621. you pay thru lazada. So on the shop itself you just pay rm45 right ? Is balancing foc ??
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I just done mine few days back, balancing free but alignment rm25 + sst.
Rubber valve rm5/pc and steel valve rm10/pc, no SST charged on the valve
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185/55R16 current price is how much? The tyre shop offer me 230 per donut, I see people getting only around 210?
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