QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 24 2019, 10:26 AM)
Those who buta-buta say this also mmg bodo. How many year this mamat stuck under coconut shell? Wanna compare use logic and latest models, not your imaginary perception.
Bezza vs Saga
Bezza vs Saga
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May 24 2019, 10:33 AM
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May 24 2019, 10:33 AM
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saga lah better car
better driving experience better safety |
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May 24 2019, 10:38 AM
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May 24 2019, 10:46 AM
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Hello Kopi
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May 24 2019, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(tenukkongkong @ May 24 2019, 09:57 AM) Hello Kopi, safety, comfort, maintenance, all saga wins.Which one u pick? Bezza 1.3 Extreme Or Saga Premium 1.3 For bezza second spec, i can get full spec saga. But bezza has push start button. For comfort, safety, fuel consumption, Acceleration, Family, mantainance, etc Most important is mantainance Which one will u pick? safety - proton handling much better than bezza. better handling = less likely to lose control, less likely to get into accident comfort - both also meh, but saga is less wobbly. beeza is tall, small wheels, so u imagine the ride la maintenance - both parts also cheap, but i'll be willing to bet saga parts will be cheaper & more abundant in the future FC & acceleration - both also hav similar FC, & acceleration is meh. but u cant trust paper spec. all perodua has the same problem, where after u put som weight in it (driver, passenger), FC goes down the drain. conclusion: if u love your family, get any car but perodua. perodua cars r notoriously horrible in handling & safety. that's y u always see perdorua get into accident, & often fatal accident. there is a reason y perodua car is usually about ~100kg lighter than their counterpart. cuz use cheap ass tin milo. |
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May 24 2019, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ May 24 2019, 10:33 AM) Those who buta-buta say this also mmg bodo. How many year this mamat stuck under coconut shell? Wanna compare use logic and latest models, not your imaginary perception. No. Comparing latest models. Saga is shit compared to bezza. Slightly better safety is not as great as having better FC. Besides, u drive like an idiot, u wud still die in a saga. |
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May 24 2019, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 24 2019, 10:33 AM) honda city aku pun baru pakai setahun klo lalu bump je pun bunyi ek ok ek ok spring... aku pun dengar dalam forum and luar forum kata honda quality down. toyota better.the best built quality aku penah pakai mazda3 cbu je tahun 2008-2009 dlu perodua pun sama je kualiti cam proton...cuma kelebihan enjin daihatsu/toyolta je...dah pakai kelisa, myvi seblom nih.... cabin toyota lagi senyap dari honda |
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May 24 2019, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 24 2019, 10:49 AM) safety, comfort, maintenance, all saga wins. Waiting for TS to pusing-pusing your honest comment/review and troll out this thread longer.safety - proton handling much better than bezza. better handling = less likely to lose control, less likely to get into accident comfort - both also meh, but saga is less wobbly. beeza is tall, small wheels, so u imagine the ride la maintenance - both parts also cheap, but i'll be willing to bet saga parts will be cheaper & more abundant in the future FC & acceleration - both also hav similar FC, & acceleration is meh. but u cant trust paper spec. all perodua has the same problem, where after u put som weight in it (driver, passenger), FC goes down the drain. conclusion: if u love your family, get any car but perodua. perodua cars r notoriously horrible in handling & safety. that's y u always see perdorua get into accident, & often fatal accident. there is a reason y perodua car is usually about ~100kg lighter than their counterpart. cuz use cheap ass tin milo. |
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i'm driving 9 years old saga BLM first model.
so i vote saga. saga aircond > all. |
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May 24 2019, 10:53 AM
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Saga - wait for the new facelift version coming soon - I have a feeling the pricing and new features is going to make it even more bang for the bucks ...
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https://careta.my/article/tips-penjagaan-transmisi-cvt-punch
Tips Penjagaan Transmisi CVT (Punch) ![]() Memandu sebuah kenderaan dengan transmisi CVT adalah berbeza berbanding transmisi automatik biasa. Oleh kerana ia tiada gear, penukaran kelajuan amat lancar dan menjimatkan minyak berbanding transmisi tradisional. Kereta moden kebanyakannya telah pun dilengkapi dengan transmisi CVT. Namun begitu, tidak ramai pengguna yang arif berkenaan penjagaan terhadap transmisi jenis CVT ini. Penggunaan yang salah (dan kasar) akan menyebabkan anda menyumpah seranah pengeluar dan penjual padahal ia adalah disebabkan kenaifan diri sendiri. Berikut adalah tips penjagaan transmisi CVT yang kami petik yang telah ditulis oleh Drex Chan, Pengarah Eksekutif dari EA Autoworks yang perlu kita tahu. 1. Ketika mula bergerak - Kebanyakan antara kita memang mempunyai masalah kaki kanan yang berat. 0.3 saat sebelum lampu bertukar hijau, maka pedal to the metal. Jangan. Ketika memulakan perjalanan, biarkan kenderaan maju ke hadapan tanpa menekan minyak dan anda boleh perlahan-lahan menambahkan kelajuan. Elakkan keadaan full throttle ketika mula bergerak. - Selepas membayar tol, kita selalunya mahu berdesup dan mengalahkan Perodua Myvi yang memotong kita secara merbahaya tadi, maka kita pun memecut secara kasar. Pecutan secara kasar ini sebenarnya boleh merosakkan transmisi CVT. Seharusnya kita tenang, dan tingkatkan kelajuan anda secara berperingkat. 2. Ketika bergerak di dalam kesesakan - Biarkan transmisi CVT yang bekerja di dalam kesesakan. Anda tidak perlukan pendikit minyak untuk maju ke hadapan. 3. Ketika mula mendaki kawasan cerun - Selalu menggunakan brek parking (brek tangan) ketika sedang berhenti di kawasan cerun. Brek parking merupakan perkara yang terakhir sekali yang anda perlu lepaskan selepas pedal brek dilepaskan dan pendikit minyak ditekan. 4. Sebelum menghentikan kereta - Bagi pengguna yang kurang sabar, mereka didapati akan menukar posisi gear dari D ke R (dan sebaliknya) tanpa menunggu kereta berhenti sepenuhnya atau kadar penukaran itu dilakukan terlalu pantas. Keadaan ini boleh merosakkan transmisi sekiranya selalu dilakukan. Sebaiknya, biarkan kereta berhenti sepenuhnya, baharulah kita menukar kepada gear yang diingini. Perkara yang perlu dielakkan oleh pemilik kereta bertransmisi CVT adalah seperti berikut:- 1. Menggunakan mod shiftronic ketika sedang full throttle atau enjin berkelajuan tinggi. 2. Menukar posisi gear dari D (Drive) ke neutral ketika sedang menuruni bukit. Sentiasa mengekalkan posisi gear D supaya anda boleh membrek dengan bantuan enjin (engine braking). 3. Melakukan imbangan on-wheel dalam keadaan gear Neutral tanpa menghidupkan enjin. 4. Menunda kereta dalam keadaan mengundur. 5. Tidak melakukan adaptasi klac berkala (periodic clutch adaptation). Anda boleh melakukan sendiri sekiranya anda mahir. Jika tidak, sila rujuk kepada pakar perihal ini. 6. Tidak menukar bendalir transmisi dan penapis bendalir mengikut kadar masa yang ditetapkan. 7. Menggunakan bendalir transmisi yang tidak bersesuaian dengan ketetapan pengeluar. 8. Terkurang mengisi bendalir transmisi juga mampu merosakkan transmisi kerana peranan bendalir ni amat penting bagi memastikan kelancaran pergerakan. Pastikan mekanik/pusat servis merekod item ini ketika melakukan servis berkala. Sebagai pengguna, kita hendaklah sentiasa merujuk kepada buku manual berkenaan masa menukar bendalir transmisi dan penapis bendalir supaya dapat menjaga ketahanan transmisi. Setiap pengeluar mempunyai ketetapan tersendiri bagi memastikan sistem transmisi mereka mampu berjalan dengan baik. Pastikan anda membaca buku panduan kereta sebelum mula memandu buat kali pertama supaya anda faham apakah keperluan sebenar kenderaan anda. Walaupun kereta ialah sebuah mesin buatan manusia, namun mesin juga mempunyai keperluan tersendiri. Andai mesin ini merajuk, anda sudah tentu ketiadaan kenderaan untuk ke sana sini di samping mencederakan dompet anda dengan lebih parah sekiranya keperluan mereka tidak dijaga rapi. |
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QUOTE(tenukkongkong @ May 24 2019, 10:56 AM) What pusing2? what troll? This is serious thread. I gonna buy it during eid. So need to choose wisely. I want to see all the review n what they think about this two car. My advice, go test drive yourself. Can test drive a few times if you want and it's free. There are many factors other than just specs or on-paper performance. Like someone mentioned, Bezza might have better FC on paper, but it goes down the drain with 1-2 passengers. Plus you might prefer the handling of one car better than the other.I've personally tested both and I feel the Bezza is very unresponsive. This is how their fuel economy focus affects actual performance. Burst acceleration at higher speeds (90+kmh) is also rather poor while the Saga still has decent response. You can listen to us talk shit, but end of the day, nothing beats testing yourself. |
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 24 2019, 11:05 AM) https://careta.my/article/tips-penjagaan-transmisi-cvt-punch Tips Penjagaan Transmisi CVT (Punch) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I said once here before. CVT punch is indeed sucks but many dono how to properly operate it. I said before Punch CVT can save fuel based on my own observation and experience driving a Preve. For a heavy car max mileage per full tank i get is almost 700km. But nobody want to believe. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This one my CoSE mechanic did this right in front of me many times to test abnormal noise near the wheel. Farking heck. Berbulu betul when he did that over and over This post has been edited by maxizanc: May 24 2019, 11:19 AM |
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QUOTE(tenukkongkong @ May 24 2019, 09:57 AM) Hello Kopi, bezza handling is just like axiaWhich one u pick? Bezza 1.3 Extreme Or Saga Premium 1.3 For bezza second spec, i can get full spec saga. But bezza has push start button. For comfort, safety, fuel consumption, Acceleration, Family, mantainance, etc Most important is mantainance Which one will u pick? axia is a floating sampan experience if u like sampan go for it saga handling way better than any perodua cars but maintenance a bit higher than perodua u cant do much with push start button. fuel consumption=bezza wins a/c quality = saga wins big time |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 24 2019, 11:15 AM) I said once here before. CVT punch is indeed sucks but many dono how to properly operate it. I said before Punch CVT can save fuel based on my own observation and experience driving a Preve. For a heavy car max mileage per full tank i get is almost 700km. But nobody want to believe. how?teach me master i max can go 450Km (sometime stretch 500Km if really2 light-footed) nowadays i only drive thru traffic jam |
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