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I was quoted by a SA, extending the hybrid battery for 2 years package priced at RM2200, worth to take?
imo. used, worth it since the first owner take a whole lot of depreciation already. New, nah I passedBuying used BMW F30 3 series?
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Jan 5 2021, 07:05 PM
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Jan 5 2021, 08:44 PM
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Jan 5 2021, 09:11 PM
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Jan 5 2021, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Zoo Howl @ Jan 5 2021, 08:05 PM) I have heard stories of 330e is more unreliable compare than 318i I would recommend to at least go for 320i. 4 cylinder engine is way more better and common in term of spare parts compare to 3 cylinder engine. Not sure should choose which one π For sure non hybrid will be more reliable and less issue due to less parts involved. If you want even less issue go get the turbo diesel model 320D, even less sensor and wiring compare to petrol counterpart. The torque of the 320D can almost match of 335i petrol with almost 380~400Nm torque @ 1,750β2,750 rpm, losing only on hp (180hp vs 300hp - 335i) This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 5 2021, 10:08 PM Zoo Howl liked this post
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Jan 6 2021, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 5 2021, 10:04 PM) I would recommend to at least go for 320i. 4 cylinder engine is way more better and common in term of spare parts compare to 3 cylinder engine. yup...For sure non hybrid will be more reliable and less issue due to less parts involved. If you want even less issue go get the turbo diesel model 320D, even less sensor and wiring compare to petrol counterpart. The torque of the 320D can almost match of 335i petrol with almost 380~400Nm torque @ 1,750β2,750 rpm, losing only on hp (180hp vs 300hp - 335i) 2016 320i LCI if TS has the budget, 2016 330i LCI or 320d LCI with B47 engine 318i wise is decent with 136hp, but the car weight 1500kg.. 136hp is like Corolla 1.8, Civic 1.8 kind of power. but the 2 Japanese cars weight 200kg less while 118i is just nice with the 1.5 B38, it is smaller lighter car with shorter wheelbase. This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jan 6 2021, 10:58 AM |
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:24 AM) Did you have the sticky rubberized door handles ? There are few options you can easily fix with the rubberized door handles.I heard this was a common issue on the Pre-LCI F30s. OEM replacement are now readily available online for DIY. I did some research and opt for the easy fix, a cover to slide over the handles. It fits well and not obvious. https://shopee.com.my/(Ready-Stock)-BMW-F30...2205.2087697428 ![]() The other option of replacing the handles requires removing the handle, not easy and you would break some clips. ![]() |
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:24 AM) Did you have the sticky rubberized door handles ? Yeah mine all 4 kena so I bought the snap ons like dudester mentioned above.I heard this was a common issue on the Pre-LCI F30s. I have a video on how it works below - (link to purchase is in the video too, about Rm60 for one pair only) https://youtu.be/Ju_snmyTxJE |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 6 2021, 10:56 AM) yup... You forgot B38 engine has 220nm from very low RPM, while the civic/corolla has only 170nm+ from 4000RPM. It's the low end torque that determines the daily drivability. You dont always drive at 6000RPM to make use of the max HP figure2016 320i LCI if TS has the budget, 2016 330i LCI or 320d LCI with B47 engine 318i wise is decent with 136hp, but the car weight 1500kg.. 136hp is like Corolla 1.8, Civic 1.8 kind of power. but the 2 Japanese cars weight 200kg less while 118i is just nice with the 1.5 B38, it is smaller lighter car with shorter wheelbase. jasonlim liked this post
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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Jan 7 2021, 10:22 AM) You forgot B38 engine has 220nm from very low RPM, while the civic/corolla has only 170nm+ from 4000RPM. It's the low end torque that determines the daily drivability. You dont always drive at 6000RPM to make use of the max HP figure But BMW wor... just daily drive only meh.. lolAnyway, the car still weight 1500kg.. |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 7 2021, 02:59 PM) Maybe some ppl drive on highway alot, but I think for those that mostly do city drives, 220nm at revs between 1k to 3k is more than enough.220nm is enough to push the car up genting comfortably with revs around 2k - 3k rpm. For cars with N/A 2.4 with 230nm, you'll probably be screaming at 4k+ rpm all the way up SleeplessEyes liked this post
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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Jan 7 2021, 04:06 PM) Maybe some ppl drive on highway alot, but I think for those that mostly do city drives, 220nm at revs between 1k to 3k is more than enough. 220nm torque is sufficient for city driving, between 0 to 80km/h220nm is enough to push the car up genting comfortably with revs around 2k - 3k rpm. For cars with N/A 2.4 with 230nm, you'll probably be screaming at 4k+ rpm all the way up once you hit the highway, power matters especially if you want to accelerate from 80 to beyond 100km/h, over taking lorry and slow moving cars. You will feel that you need to work a lot on the engine to move the car just a little bit faster when power to weight ratio is insufficient. For 2.4NA, the power that helps to sustain high speed. If you look at some of the drag race (of course I am not promoting to drag race) between a Turbo car (high torque, lower power) and an NA car (lower torque, high power), Turbo cars always start off quicker but at high speed, the NA with higher power will over take. |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 7 2021, 04:20 PM) 220nm torque is sufficient for city driving, between 0 to 80km/h Actually in highway cruising scenario, the ZF 8 speeder does help alot with lower torque engines. At 150kmh, the engine is just revving at slightly below 3000RPM, comfortably within optimal torque once you hit the highway, power matters especially if you want to accelerate from 80 to beyond 100km/h, over taking lorry and slow moving cars. You will feel that you need to work a lot on the engine to move the car just a little bit faster when power to weight ratio is insufficient. For 2.4NA, the power that helps to sustain high speed. If you look at some of the drag race (of course I am not promoting to drag race) between a Turbo car (high torque, lower power) and an NA car (lower torque, high power), Turbo cars always start off quicker but at high speed, the NA with higher power will over take. |
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Jan 7 2021, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Jan 7 2021, 04:06 PM) Maybe some ppl drive on highway alot, but I think for those that mostly do city drives, 220nm at revs between 1k to 3k is more than enough. actually i wish to know. 220nm can happen without full pedal ?220nm is enough to push the car up genting comfortably with revs around 2k - 3k rpm. For cars with N/A 2.4 with 230nm, you'll probably be screaming at 4k+ rpm all the way up why i feel 220nm is so weak from daily ride unless u step more. even idrive power indicator show less than 220nm |
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Jan 7 2021, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Jan 7 2021, 04:06 PM) Maybe some ppl drive on highway alot, but I think for those that mostly do city drives, 220nm at revs between 1k to 3k is more than enough. 220nm is enough to push the car up genting comfortably with revs around 2k - 3k rpm. For cars with N/A 2.4 with 230nm, you'll probably be screaming at 4k+ rpm all the way up QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 7 2021, 04:20 PM) 220nm torque is sufficient for city driving, between 0 to 80km/h My Accord 2.4 got same torque with ketam, but NA u need to rev like mad, below 4k, feel heavy, feel no power.above that only feel alive.while ketam power delivery is great. once you hit the highway, power matters especially if you want to accelerate from 80 to beyond 100km/h, over taking lorry and slow moving cars. You will feel that you need to work a lot on the engine to move the car just a little bit faster when power to weight ratio is insufficient. For 2.4NA, the power that helps to sustain high speed. If you look at some of the drag race (of course I am not promoting to drag race) between a Turbo car (high torque, lower power) and an NA car (lower torque, high power), Turbo cars always start off quicker but at high speed, the NA with higher power will over take. With NA characteristics, immediately potong stim to drive fast.lol. Its like u need to try so hard to drive fast. So so hard. But so many drive fast NA car on highway. They all definitely push throttle like maniac. Me cannot liao.lol. |
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The 330e fuel tank is quite small. Youβll need to do a lot more refueling if you donβt charge. Otherwise, itβs a fun car to drive if you charge diligently
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Jan 7 2021, 11:22 PM) My Accord 2.4 got same torque with ketam, but NA u need to rev like mad, below 4k, feel heavy, feel no power.above that only feel alive.while ketam power delivery is great. engine designed for power usually easy high reving.... last time my 1.6 is very throttle happy easily 6-7000 rpm... rotary engines easily 10k rpm... With NA characteristics, immediately potong stim to drive fast.lol. Its like u need to try so hard to drive fast. So so hard. But so many drive fast NA car on highway. They all definitely push throttle like maniac. Me cannot liao.lol. obviously if cannot stand the engine roar...then need to look at other cars lor |
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 7 2021, 10:31 PM) actually i wish to know. 220nm can happen without full pedal ? max 220nm must happen before full power, and before full throttlewhy i feel 220nm is so weak from daily ride unless u step more. even idrive power indicator show less than 220nm look up you engine chart and it will tell you at what rpm you need proper rate of acceleration to get to feel the 220nm, for normal driving the auto will shift way earlier before peak torque... and usually when rpm is around this peak torque, car is already at speed and is hard to feel the pull This post has been edited by dwRK: Jan 8 2021, 10:38 AM |
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 7 2021, 10:31 PM) actually i wish to know. 220nm can happen without full pedal ? The torque is on demand la. It's not always 220nm all the way. The ECU will learn the way you drive and adjust accordingly. If you drive mostly in relaxing way, the throttle response will be slower overallwhy i feel 220nm is so weak from daily ride unless u step more. even idrive power indicator show less than 220nm QUOTE(DS51 @ Jan 7 2021, 11:22 PM) My Accord 2.4 got same torque with ketam, but NA u need to rev like mad, below 4k, feel heavy, feel no power.above that only feel alive.while ketam power delivery is great. Exactly. I have an NA 3.0 and it feels heavy below 3k rpm.With NA characteristics, immediately potong stim to drive fast.lol. Its like u need to try so hard to drive fast. So so hard. But so many drive fast NA car on highway. They all definitely push throttle like maniac. Me cannot liao.lol. I prefer driving the 1.6T in town as it feels more zippy in stop-go |
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Jan 7 2021, 11:22 PM) My Accord 2.4 got same torque with ketam, but NA u need to rev like mad, below 4k, feel heavy, feel no power.above that only feel alive.while ketam power delivery is great. in order to get best of both world, get a high torque and high power..With NA characteristics, immediately potong stim to drive fast.lol. Its like u need to try so hard to drive fast. So so hard. But so many drive fast NA car on highway. They all definitely push throttle like maniac. Me cannot liao.lol. At least Ketam 220nm with 170hp.. weight 1300kg.. best of both world.. 318i 220nm but 136hp, weight 1500kg.. might be ok for city, but power to weight ratio, need to work hard on the engine to get it up to speed on open road. |
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