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 Buying used BMW F30 3 series?

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TStreason
post May 19 2019, 12:49 AM, updated 5y ago

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The prices for a used F30 now is quite crazy so made a video on it! smile.gif

Anyone thinking of getting one?

Updated full review here -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGBmJPOcfro&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7vlWdXzsRA

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This post has been edited by treason: Jan 1 2021, 09:15 PM
IamAHuman
post May 19 2019, 07:15 AM

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Not bad. Short and simple video. Keep it up!

However, I still prefer the f10 as it’s more luxurious, spacious and comfortable. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 19 2019, 08:56 AM

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No ! Seeing G20, this became ancient !
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post May 19 2019, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 19 2019, 07:15 AM)
Not bad. Short and simple video. Keep it up!

However, I still prefer the f10 as it’s more luxurious, spacious and comfortable.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks!! Yah the F10 is great too , just feels abit big sometimes!
TStreason
post May 19 2019, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ May 19 2019, 08:56 AM)
No ! Seeing G20, this became ancient !
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Haha yah the new generation interiors are really next level. But F30 is 1/3 the price now of a new G20 haha
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post May 19 2019, 11:00 AM

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Most of the interiors are cheap plastics. Such a shame. Even the much cheaper Camry and Accord have better quality interior.
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post May 19 2019, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ May 19 2019, 08:56 AM)
No ! Seeing G20, this became ancient !
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I actually like the F30 exterior better than the G20. G20 is also even bigger which I don't prefer but unfortunately that's the trend, cars just keep getting bigger and heavier. 🙁
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post May 19 2019, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(treason @ May 19 2019, 10:58 AM)
Haha yah the new generation interiors are really next level. But F30 is 1/3 the price now of a new G20 haha
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330i F30 is the best model to buy I think but price still around rm170k.
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post May 19 2019, 01:38 PM

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TS's video is about 328 for 2012. In terms of power, driving, this F30 is a good car. But, just be careful of the initial batch.

I used to drive a 2012 F30 328. I believe the crazy second hand price was due to the initial batch in 2012. A lot of technical and quality issues. I remember my car was in workshop for weeks and weeks because of the drain train malfunction. Also, the aircon, the seat, .. of course, all were resolved after 2 years. When I sold in 2017, I only could get around 110k despite I bought it nearly 300k.

But, one key has to be extremely careful about F30: the air intake duct is very low and will be in big trouble during heavy rain:

http://bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/index.ph...20i-down.32549/
https://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/threads/f30-t...downpour.67216/

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QUOTE(ongss @ May 19 2019, 01:38 PM)
TS's video is about 328 for 2012. In terms of power, driving, this F30 is a good car. But, just be careful of the initial batch.

I used to drive a 2012 F30 328. I believe the crazy second hand price was due to the initial batch in 2012. A lot of technical and quality issues. I remember my car was in workshop for weeks and weeks because of the drain train malfunction. Also, the aircon, the seat, .. of course, all were resolved after 2 years. When I sold in 2017, I only could get around 110k despite I bought it nearly 300k.

But, one key has to be extremely careful about F30: the air intake duct is very low and will be in big trouble during heavy rain:

http://bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/index.ph...20i-down.32549/
https://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/threads/f30-t...downpour.67216/
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The N20 engine has a defective timing chain guide.
TStreason
post May 19 2019, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ongss @ May 19 2019, 01:38 PM)
TS's video is about 328 for 2012. In terms of power, driving, this F30 is a good car. But, just be careful of the initial batch.

I used to drive a 2012 F30 328. I believe the crazy second hand price was due to the initial batch in 2012. A lot of technical and quality issues. I remember my car was in workshop for weeks and weeks because of the drain train malfunction. Also, the aircon, the seat, .. of course, all were resolved after 2 years. When I sold in 2017, I only could get around 110k despite I bought it nearly 300k.

But, one key has to be extremely careful about F30: the air intake duct is very low and will be in big trouble during heavy rain:

http://bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/index.ph...20i-down.32549/
https://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/threads/f30-t...downpour.67216/
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Wow some great info here. I remember hearing about the issue with the rusted seat railings and smelly aircond too. Ours is a 2012 CKD. Was yours CKD too or CBU?

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post May 19 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(treason @ May 19 2019, 05:43 PM)
Wow some great info here. I remember hearing about the issue with the rusted seat railings and smelly aircond too. Ours is a 2012 CKD. Was yours CKD too or CBU?
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Mine was first batch for CKD. Yap, I changed my rusty front seats barely six months. Leather cracked before 12 months. I had to fight hard in order to get a replacement as BMW claimed it was wear-and-tear. Nevertheless, I managed to get all problems sorted out before the warranty expired.

Actually, maintaining a BMW does not always mean cheaper outside the authorized service centre.

For example, there are two exhaust tail pipe tips for 328. One is controlled by a flap, driven by a motor. There is a pin between the flap and a mini motor. I guess the design is to amplify the noise levels. Unfortunately, for my case, the pin fell and the flap rattled. I went to a friend's workshop. He told me I could not buy only the pin. The part seller only sold the entire unit i.e. the motor and the pin. That would cost me a few hundred - minimum. So, my friend recommended me a "dirty" solution. Drill a hole and use a screw to lock the flap. I did that because I thought it was a cheaper to do it by third party. Subsequently, I found out from my SA in the authorized workshop that I could buy that pin for merely RM29! I did not have to buy the entire set. Several of my friends had this problem. So, just in case you have that rattling exhaust tip, this is the solution:


https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=933668
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TStreason
post May 20 2019, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(ongss @ May 19 2019, 10:54 PM)
Mine was first batch for CKD. Yap, I changed my rusty front seats barely six months. Leather cracked before 12 months. I had to fight hard in order to get a replacement as BMW claimed it was wear-and-tear. Nevertheless, I managed to get all problems sorted out before the warranty expired.

Actually, maintaining a BMW does not always mean cheaper outside the authorized service centre.

For example, there are two exhaust tail pipe tips for 328. One is controlled by a flap, driven by a motor. There is a pin between the flap and a mini motor. I guess the design is to amplify the noise levels. Unfortunately, for my case, the pin fell and the flap rattled. I went to a friend's workshop. He told me I could not buy only the pin. The part seller only sold the entire unit i.e. the motor and the pin. That would cost me a few hundred - minimum. So, my friend recommended me a "dirty" solution. Drill a hole and use a screw to lock the flap. I did that because I thought it was a cheaper to do it by third party. Subsequently, I found out from my SA in the authorized workshop that I could buy that pin for merely RM29! I did not have to buy the entire set. Several of my friends had this problem. So, just in case you have that rattling exhaust tip, this is the solution:
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=933668
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Wow thanks, will keep all this in mind!



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post May 20 2019, 10:50 PM

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my bro-in-law bought a 2012 320i last year
yesterday the coolant tank give way, but other than that all is fine until now
never heard he complaint anything about the car spend a night in workshop

exterior wise F30 really does look sporty.. but interior not really my taste
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post May 20 2019, 10:56 PM

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328i real 248 hp rather than 330e with battery
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post May 20 2019, 11:16 PM

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What year model would you recommend one getting? 2014-2015 models the problems sorted already?

Also, 320i or 328i? Not in terms of performance but reliability.

Thanks! Great video btw!
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post May 21 2019, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(KingRyan @ May 20 2019, 11:16 PM)
What year model would you recommend one getting? 2014-2015 models the problems sorted already?

Also, 320i or 328i? Not in terms of performance but reliability.

Thanks! Great video btw!
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I think just avoid the 330E and also the 316 and 318i - the 1.6 and 1.5 3 pot engines.

The rest should be ok- get LCI and as new as possible of course.

I would get 328i over the 320i due to the sport gearbox, bigger screen etc but i believe you can find a later 320i as the 328i was replaced by 330i (this is the best as someone else mentioned too - newer, most power, full specs- has keyless, HUD, M Sport Trim). Otherwise 320D is actually a good choice also- i would prefer that over 320i.

So I guess - 330i (but most ex), 320D, 328i, are my recommendations

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post May 21 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(treason @ May 21 2019, 10:26 AM)
I think just avoid the 330E and also the 316 and 318i - the 1.6 and 1.5 3 pot engines.

The rest should be ok- get LCI and as new as possible of course.

I would get 328i over the 320i due to the sport gearbox, bigger screen etc but i believe you can find a later 320i as the 328i was replaced by 330i (this is the best as someone else mentioned too - newer, most power, full specs- has keyless, HUD, M Sport Trim). Otherwise 320D is actually a good choice also- i would prefer that over 320i.

So I guess - 330i (but most ex), 320D, 328i, are my recommendations
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Ah, but can't justify spending 330i money (HM still pushing to buy SUV). Haha so trying to bring budget lower to avoid buying any of that CX-5/CRV.

I heard horror stories about the 320d though, why do you recommend it over the 320i?

Now hunting for a good 328i but it seems Mudah is just super bad..
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post May 21 2019, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ongss @ May 19 2019, 10:54 PM)
Mine was first batch for CKD. Yap, I changed my rusty front seats barely six months. Leather cracked before 12 months. I had to fight hard in order to get a replacement as BMW claimed it was wear-and-tear. Nevertheless, I managed to get all problems sorted out before the warranty expired.

Actually, maintaining a BMW does not always mean cheaper outside the authorized service centre.

For example, there are two exhaust tail pipe tips for 328. One is controlled by a flap, driven by a motor. There is a pin between the flap and a mini motor. I guess the design is to amplify the noise levels. Unfortunately, for my case, the pin fell and the flap rattled. I went to a friend's workshop. He told me I could not buy only the pin. The part seller only sold the entire unit i.e. the motor and the pin. That would cost me a few hundred - minimum. So, my friend recommended me a "dirty" solution. Drill a hole and use a screw to lock the flap. I did that because I thought it was a cheaper to do it by third party. Subsequently, I found out from my SA in the authorized workshop that I could buy that pin for merely RM29! I did not have to buy the entire set. Several of my friends had this problem. So, just in case you have that rattling exhaust tip, this is the solution:
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=933668
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My 2015 F30 still has rust under the seat. Hahaha. I guess whatever the eye cant see directly they wont bother to rectify.
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post May 21 2019, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(ctw88 @ May 21 2019, 03:24 PM)
My 2015 F30 still has rust under the seat. Hahaha. I guess whatever the eye cant see directly they wont bother to rectify.
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I guess you have to complain. What they do is to replace with another one with paint. I think BMW offered 4 years warranty for those produced in 2015, you still have time to claim. For 2012 CKD, the warranty was 2 years and the free maintenance was 3 years. For the free maintenance, I managed to claim only one set of disc rotol and air con filter. My car was in the workshop for more than 8 weeks in 2013 alone. As a result, it was under-utilized. Nevertheless, F30 is fun to drive. Not the problem of the design (except the air intake duct issue).


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