Lol jibby is innocent.. I told u guys 1000 times oredi
Some Of RM1.9bil Credited Into Najib’s Account, A Donation From Saudi Arabia, Court Told
Some Of RM1.9bil Credited Into Najib’s Account, A Donation From Saudi Arabia, Court Told
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May 14 2019, 08:04 PM
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Lol jibby is innocent.. I told u guys 1000 times oredi
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May 14 2019, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 14 2019, 08:01 PM) From what i know, gov administrator is not employed by the gov. The PM is chosen by parliament n the ministers in chosen by PM. So, thats why they cant be considered as gov officials. Gov officials represent the gov, gov administrator represent the country. Prime Minister represents the Govt lah, how can he not be a Govt official? That is really stupid imo.Thats the argument la. |
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May 14 2019, 08:08 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:09 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:10 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:12 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 14 2019, 08:12 PM) The most senior position among gov servant is ksn. Not PM. PM is in a different part of the gov. Just like parliament, juridical. As so, a gov servant cant go beyond ksn n be a pm. Just like a pm cant be a judge. U must view them as seperate. And bcoz of that, MP in parliament have different rules, judge have their own seperate rules and finally PM and his cabinet also have their own rules to follow. |
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May 14 2019, 08:23 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:24 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:29 PM
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May 14 2019, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 14 2019, 08:19 PM) The most senior position among gov servant is ksn. Not PM. PM is in a different part of the gov. Just like parliament, juridical. As so, a gov servant cant go beyond ksn n be a pm. Just like a pm cant be a judge. absolutely agree. It really takes a civil servant to lay down all the constitutional facts to the layman.U must view them as seperate. And bcoz of that, MP in parliament have different rules, judge have their own seperate rules and finally PM and his cabinet also have their own rules to follow. I blame this on the education: there is no subject called civil studies. The best one was Pengajian Am, but that subject faces two problem: 1. it's not in SPM, where majority of school leavers end up getting it as their highest education within malaysia (they go out to foreign colleges later), 2. There's no pengajian am in matrikulasi, which means more and more of the population will miss having their civil education there. MOE should really consider moving pengajian am to SPM level in order to educate the public |
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May 14 2019, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 14 2019, 08:19 PM) The most senior position among gov servant is ksn. Not PM. PM is in a different part of the gov. Just like parliament, juridical. As so, a gov servant cant go beyond ksn n be a pm. Just like a pm cant be a judge. Regardless, a PM has to represent the Govt, if he doesn't, it is meaningless to say He represents the country. Question is represent the country as what?U must view them as seperate. And bcoz of that, MP in parliament have different rules, judge have their own seperate rules and finally PM and his cabinet also have their own rules to follow. Still points back to the Govt, since he's the head of Govt. That is my argument. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 14 2019, 08:35 PM |
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May 15 2019, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ May 14 2019, 08:30 PM) absolutely agree. It really takes a civil servant to lay down all the constitutional facts to the layman. actually, we have learnt the basic in school. enough to understand the separation of power between executive, judicial and legislative as well as the little details in them.I blame this on the education: there is no subject called civil studies. The best one was Pengajian Am, but that subject faces two problem: 1. it's not in SPM, where majority of school leavers end up getting it as their highest education within malaysia (they go out to foreign colleges later), 2. There's no pengajian am in matrikulasi, which means more and more of the population will miss having their civil education there. MOE should really consider moving pengajian am to SPM level in order to educate the public This post has been edited by Invince_Z: May 15 2019, 07:55 AM |
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May 15 2019, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 14 2019, 08:34 PM) Regardless, a PM has to represent the Govt, if he doesn't, it is meaningless to say He represents the country. Question is represent the country as what? Still points back to the Govt, since he's the head of Govt. That is my argument. KSN is head of gov. PM represent the YDPA in gov. |
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May 15 2019, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(pokolinou @ May 14 2019, 05:55 PM) This is not about denying PH. This has nothing to do with PH. I deny PH all the time like the recent bodoh tint move. This matter is simply Najib songlap. But macai and/or bodoh tries very hard to blame it on PH for Najib's crime. |
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May 15 2019, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 14 2019, 08:01 PM) From what i know, gov administrator is not employed by the gov. The PM is chosen by parliament n the ministers in chosen by PM. So, thats why they cant be considered as gov officials. Gov officials represent the gov, gov administrator represent the country. He Kantoi liao, no matter how his lawyer spin. 1mdb advisor / board of director consider as officer of public body or not?Thats the argument la. Act 694 Offence of accepting gratification 16. Any person who by himself, or by or in conjunction with any other person— (a) corruptly solicits or receives or agrees to receive for himself or for any other person; or (b) corruptly gives, promises or offers to any person whether for the benefit of that person or of another person, any gratification as an inducement to or a reward for, or otherwise on account of— (A) any person doing or forbearing to do anything in respect of any matter or transaction, actual or proposed or likely to take place; or (B) any officer of a public body doing or forbearing to do anything in respect of any matter or transaction, actual or proposed or likely to take place, in which the public body is concerned, Offence of using office or position for gratification 23. (1) Any officer of a public body who uses his office or position for any gratification, whether for himself, his relative or associate, commits an offence. (2) For the purposes of subsection (1), an officer of a public body shall be presumed, until the contrary is proved, to use his office or position for any gratification, whether for himself, his relative or associate, when he makes any decision, or takes any action, in relation to any matter in which such officer, or any relative or associate of his, has an interest, whether directly or indirectly. (3) For the avoidance of doubt, it is declared that, for the purposes of subsection (1), any member of the administration of a State shall be deemed to use his office or position for gratification when he acts contrary to subsection 2(8) of the Eighth Schedule to the Federal Constitution or the equivalent provision in the Constitution or Laws of the Constitution of that State. (4) This section shall not apply to an officer who holds office in a public body as a representative of another public body which has the control or partial control over the first-mentioned public body in respect of any matter or thing done in his capacity as such representative for the interest or advantage of that other public body. This post has been edited by wanted111who: May 15 2019, 09:25 AM |
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May 15 2019, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 14 2019, 08:34 PM) Regardless, a PM has to represent the Govt, if he doesn't, it is meaningless to say He represents the country. Question is represent the country as what? I know how you feel, but in technical they're not wrong.Still points back to the Govt, since he's the head of Govt. That is my argument. I was just as shocked as you upon hearing that the PM isn't a government servant. Second Appeals Court panel rules PM is not a public officer |
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May 15 2019, 09:34 AM
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To all his macai who had once protected him
Arul kanda, mazlan etc Making of statement which is false or intended to mislead, etc., to an officer of the Commission or the Public Prosecutor 27. (1) Where any person makes or causes any other person to make to an officer of the Commission or to the Public Prosecutor, in the course of such officer or Public Prosecutor exercising any power conferred by this Act, any statement which to the knowledge of the person making the statement, or causing the statement to be made— (a) is false, or intended to mislead; or (b) is not consistent with any other statement previously made by such person to any other person having authority or power under any law, or otherwise, to receive, or require to be made, such other statement regardless whether or not the person making the statement is under any legal or other obligation to tell the truth, he commits an offence and shall on conviction be liable to a fine not exceeding one hundred thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or to both. (2) Where any person, who has made a statement to an officer of the Commission or to the Public Prosecutor, in the course of such officer or Public Prosecutor exercising any power conferred by this Act, subsequently thereto makes any other statement to any person having authority or power under any law, or otherwise, to receive, or require to be made, such other statement, regardless whether or not the person making the statement is under a legal or other obligation to tell the truth, he commits an offence, if such other statement is inconsistent with any statement previously made to an officer of the Commission or the Public Prosecutor and shall on conviction be liable to a fine not exceeding one hundred thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or to both. (3) For the avoidance of doubt, it is declared that for the purposes of paragraph (1)(b) and subsection (2), any statement made in the course of any legal proceedings before any court, whether civil or criminal, or any statement made by any person in the course of any disciplinary proceedings, whether such legal proceedings or disciplinary proceedings are against the person making the statement or against any other person, shall be deemed to be a statement made to a person having authority or power under law to receive the statement so made. GG This post has been edited by wanted111who: May 15 2019, 09:35 AM |
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May 15 2019, 09:53 AM
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May 15 2019, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ May 14 2019, 04:59 PM) Nope, this is not the rm2.6 B that Najib took from 1MDB DOJ until today cannot name who is MO1? or they did? not sure Here is the 2.6B https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/page/f...877166/download IV. THE TANORE PHASE: MORE THAN $1.26 BILLION IS MISAPPROPRIATED FROM 1MDB 229. Funds transferred to the Tanore Account were distributed for the benefit of at least one public official associated with 1MDB. More particularly, very shortly after the bond offering closed, between approximately March 21, 2013, and March 25, 2013, $681,000,000 was transferred from the Tanore Account to an account belonging to MALAYSIAN OFFICIAL 1 |
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