just remember rule of thumb for any investment.
"Your gain is someone else loss" or
"Your loss is someone else gain"
Investment Anyone kena burnt in investment?, Experience and your lesson learnt
Investment Anyone kena burnt in investment?, Experience and your lesson learnt
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Sep 21 2019, 03:40 PM
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just remember rule of thumb for any investment.
"Your gain is someone else loss" or "Your loss is someone else gain" |
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Sep 21 2019, 04:03 PM
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that rule of thump cannot be applied to "any investment".....
ex,....this investment...stock investment. sell 0.10 higher than buying price,.... buyer bought and sell again at 0.10 higher and repeat...who is the one losing>.... thus "your gain is someone else loss" is not applicable to "ALL" |
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Sep 21 2019, 04:09 PM
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Anyone lost money in ABFUND, eGOLD, etc during the early 2000s?
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Sep 21 2019, 05:55 PM
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Sep 21 2019, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Sep 21 2019, 03:34 PM) I'm still holding Sapura. Fc*k! What should I do with it?? I think it's about 25k loss now!! What's ur average price? IIRC, I think I average down .... Lesson: don't trust crony companies blindly .... Oil price is in positive uptrend. Hold a bit longer and pray there is a temporary ceasefire between US and China in early Oct. |
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Sep 21 2019, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Sep 21 2019, 07:16 PM) What's ur average price? RM 4.20! I was such an idiot! Should have stopped loss!! Oil price is in positive uptrend. Hold a bit longer and pray there is a temporary ceasefire between US and China in early Oct. I'm still not sure if I can trust the management. Maybe there's no hope. |
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Sep 21 2019, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Sep 21 2019, 09:00 PM) RM 4.20! I was such an idiot! Should have stopped loss!! Damn, my condolences... at that price I guess u bought this in 2014..before the oil price crash. U do know that it will never go back to that price, ever again? Look for an exit in the coming months. I'm still not sure if I can trust the management. Maybe there's no hope. Well dont feel so bad. 24k can be earned via other means. PNB also in the same boat as u. N I think they would hv lost hundreds of millions if not billion. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 21 2019, 09:45 PM |
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Sep 21 2019, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Sep 21 2019, 09:43 PM) Damn, my condolences... at that price I guess u bought this in 2014..before the oil price crash. U do know that it will never go back to that price, ever again? Look for an exit in the coming months. I was naive back then .... thinking if PNB owns it, surely no problem. After all, they could give 7% every year... and also it was related to some politicians.Well dont feel so bad. 24k can be earned via other means. PNB also in the same boat as u. N I think they would hv lost hundreds of millions if not billion. Nowadays I just want to diversify and go beyond just Bursa Malaysia. Yes, I try not to think about it and move on. If only I could sell it at RM1 to exit ... |
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Sep 21 2019, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Sep 21 2019, 03:34 PM) I'm still holding Sapura. Fc*k! What should I do with it?? I think it's about 25k loss now!! How many percent of capital lost? If more than 50% honestly even myself also reluctant to do cut lost because damage is done. Hopefully oil price recover lo, so u won't damaged that badly. If less than that i suggest you cut it and switch to other stocks since many big company also quite cheap at the moment.IIRC, I think I average down .... Lesson: don't trust crony companies blindly .... Anyway sorry for OT guys. |
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Sep 22 2019, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Sep 21 2019, 11:56 PM) How many percent of capital lost? If more than 50% honestly even myself also reluctant to do cut lost because damage is done. Hopefully oil price recover lo, so u won't damaged that badly. If less than that i suggest you cut it and switch to other stocks since many big company also quite cheap at the moment. more than 90%!! Anyway sorry for OT guys. |
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Sep 22 2019, 08:36 AM
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Sep 22 2019, 09:25 AM
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Got burned when first learn to invest in local stock back in 2005. Lesson learned, never trust the analyst target price. You are almost certain to lose money from it. Its totally unreliable.
Now become wiser, study and make my own decision. Overall investment is making money. |
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Sep 22 2019, 10:21 AM
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Sep 22 2019, 11:39 AM
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Sep 22 2019, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Sep 22 2019, 09:25 AM) Got burned when first learn to invest in local stock back in 2005. Lesson learned, never trust the analyst target price. You are almost certain to lose money from it. Its totally unreliable. For reasons, bursa is known as crocodile pond.Now become wiser, study and make my own decision. Overall investment is making money. QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Sep 22 2019, 11:39 AM) For me no difference to cut loss, damage ia done . Just gamble to wait turnaround, u set your new TP and please be realistic. Hopefully recent oil related matter in middle east can push a bit the share price. High oil price is almost always follow by global economic recession. |
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Sep 22 2019, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Sep 22 2019, 09:25 AM) Got burned when first learn to invest in local stock back in 2005. Lesson learned, never trust the analyst target price. You are almost certain to lose money from it. Its totally unreliable. if analysts so good, they would be millionaires already. Why do they still work as analysts? Now become wiser, study and make my own decision. Overall investment is making money. QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 22 2019, 12:38 PM) how high are we talking about? I should prepare then .... |
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Sep 22 2019, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Sep 22 2019, 09:37 PM) if analysts so good, they would be millionaires already. Why do they still work as analysts? some analysts in nyc, london, sg, hk, etc yearly income include bonus could be >$1m and many are multi millionaires.how high are we talking about? I should prepare then .... high until it create inflation, reduce disposable income and corporate income. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Sep 22 2019, 09:52 PM |
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Sep 22 2019, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 22 2019, 09:51 PM) some analysts in nyc, london, sg, hk, etc yearly income include bonus could be >$1m and many are multi millionaires. and they still work at the same position, creating brokers' report? Multi millionaires don't have other better things to do but to analyse stocks for commoners, so that everyone gets rich? |
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Sep 22 2019, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Sep 22 2019, 09:55 PM) and they still work at the same position, creating brokers' report? Most reports are for internal consumption. published reports are intended to move price like "tips" and not illegal for these companies to sell after price moved.Multi millionaires don't have other better things to do but to analyse stocks for commoners, so that everyone gets rich? |
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Sep 23 2019, 01:50 AM
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Started last year around july-sept
Followed analyst recommendation. Beginners luck. Untung here and there Then october - dec datang. Kena burnt Lesson learnt. Cut your lost early Never catch a falling knife |
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