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Investment AURORA @ SUBANG JAYA CITY CENTRE, dto PROJECT 001

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post Oct 1 2019, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(changshen @ Oct 1 2019, 05:23 PM)
Is not the problem of DTO in my opinion....is the pricing . If the pricing is between 550k to 700k range I believe by now it will be sold out. Now starting from 700k min price, they had price themself out from the market. 788 sq ft in my opinion should start from 550k to 650k the most ie. About RM700 per sq ft. Forget about those shoebox 500 sq ft. unit. Just too small. Cannot remember whether their DTO did ask the participant about what is their preferred price. I mean they should ask the preferred price range and the size. They still living in denial as if they know Subang Jaya demand and supply well. Just my 2 cents. Let's see how long it took for them to finally sold out.
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post Oct 1 2019, 05:51 PM

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I think everyone is disappointed with SDP attitude and approach.

DTO if I recall correctly, they did ask but on the number of rooms and price but not sizr for this project.
The other one in Putra Heights they also ask.

Anyway, all DTO creditability has gone down the drain the moment I saw the so call "affordable units"

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Oct 1 2019, 05:51 PM)
I think everyone is disappointed with SDP attitude and approach.

DTO if I recall correctly, they did ask but on the number of rooms and price but not sizr for this project.
The other one in Putra Heights they also ask.

Anyway, all DTO creditability has gone down the drain the moment I saw the so call "affordable units"
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Well to SDP still no issue. Like someone mention they got brand name..they don't need the masses to buy. Only selected rich clients will be enough to clear off their stocks. So DTO is just a gimmick. Can complain expensive but people still buy .
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QUOTE(changshen @ Oct 1 2019, 05:23 PM)
Is not the problem of DTO in my opinion....is the pricing . If the pricing is between 550k to 700k range I believe by now it will be sold out. Now starting from 700k min price, they had price themself out from the market. 788 sq ft in my opinion should start from 550k to 650k the most ie. About RM700 per sq ft. Forget about those shoebox 500 sq ft. unit. Just too small. Cannot remember whether their DTO did ask the participant about what is their preferred price. I mean they should ask the preferred price range and the size. They still living in denial as if they know Subang Jaya demand and supply well. Just my 2 cents. Let's see how long it took for them to finally sold out.
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I thought it is Rm700+ PSF? Why starting price RM700kmin? their 800+sqf also RM700k min?

The reason I mentioned DTO is because DTO sounds and makes the property cheap.

Lot 15 for example, at least buyers would know it is designed by RSP architect (a renowned architect). Somehow gives it an illusion of prestige.

DTO on the other hand give me the feeling that it is a cheap shit and that they can't have a decent architect to design the project.

SS16 is not that attractive but they are trying to make it sounds attractive... that is where the problem lies. They are harping on the available amenities like they are gold. The truth is, that area is currently saturated with residential properties rather than attractive amenities

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QUOTE(changshen @ Oct 1 2019, 07:25 PM)
Well to SDP still no issue. Like someone mention they got brand name..they don't need the masses to buy. Only selected rich clients will be enough to clear off their stocks. So DTO is just a gimmick. Can complain expensive but people still buy .
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 1 2019, 08:03 PM)
I thought it is Rm700+ PSF? Why starting price RM700kmin? their 800+sqf also RM700k min?

The reason I mentioned DTO is because DTO sounds and makes the property cheap.

Lot 15 for example, at least buyers would know it is designed by RSP architect (a renowned architect). Somehow gives it an illusion of prestige.

DTO on the other hand gives me at least the feeling that it is a cheap shit and that they can't have a decent architect to design the project.

SS16 is not that attractive but they are trying to make it sounds attractive... that is where the problem lies. They are harping on the available amenities like they are gold. The truth is, that area is currently saturated with residential properties rather than attractive amenities
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Thought DTO just platform to gather input from potential purchaser. sweat.gif But it might serve as marketing gimmick to some extend, not so sure. Btw who the architect for Aurora since everyone bashing the design is too lousy? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(deed @ Oct 1 2019, 08:54 PM)
Thought DTO just platform to gather input from potential purchaser.  sweat.gif But it might serve as marketing gimmick to some extend, not so sure. Btw who the architect for Aurora since everyone bashing the design is too lousy?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I think SDP marketing team mistaken the concept of "customer needs".

Customers don't need this DTO shit. That is not a need fulfilling strategy since non of the buyer would get exactly what they want from DTO and as mentioned by others here, it is participated by public hence it is likely that most of the voters aren't even potential buyers.

I believe most customers would prefer the design to be in the hands of a famous designer rather than the public.

What customers want and needs from a property will always be the amenities and offerings. If SDP wanna make SJCC a TOD project then do it, build an entertainment center if not a lifestyle mall instead of constantly coming out with residential buildings.

Their audacity to market "PRIME LOCATION Subang Jaya. Need we say more?" is astounding. Yes we need you to say more because Subang Jaya isn't a prime location. You can't treat it as if it is KL Sentral or Bukit Bintang and stop harping on the dying subang parade mall and mediocre shopping gallery. No one would think of SS16 as their first choice of visit unlike Sunway Pyramid so either you do something about your SJCC or you stop advertising as if SJCC is where people wants to be.

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 1 2019, 09:25 PM)
I think SDP marketing team mistaken the concept of "customer needs".

Customers don't need this DTO shit. That is not a need fulfilling strategy since non of the buyer would get exactly what they want from DTO and as mentioned by others here, it is participated by public hence it is likely that most of the voters aren't even potential buyers.

I believe most customers would prefer the design to be in the hands of a famous designer rather than the public.

What customers want and needs from a property will always be the amenities and offerings. If SDP wanna make SJCC a TOD project then do it, build an entertainment center if not a lifestyle mall instead of constantly coming out with residential buildings.

Their audacity to market "PRIME LOCATION Subang Jaya. Need we say more?" is astounding. Yes we need you to say more because Subang Jaya isn't a prime location. You can't treat it as if it is KL Sentral or Bukit Bintang and stop harping on the dying subang parade mall and mediocre shopping gallery. No one would think of SS16 as their first choice of visit unlike Sunway Pyramid so either you do something about your SJCC or you stop advertising as if SJCC is where people wants to be.
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eh,,,,,sorry my fren…..

actually subang jaya is always my ideal location for ownstay, especially the SJCC stretch.....unfortunately the last two offerings are not quite at the best locations.

ask yourself this IF you are not familiar with Subang Jaya. The price here is from 800psf up to 1000psf.....which area in greater Klang Valley, excluding KL CBD can demand this price???? mk, Bangsar, dsara height, dpc, maluri, Tropicana, sunway pj

where else?

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 1 2019, 09:25 PM)
Their audacity to market "PRIME LOCATION Subang Jaya. Need we say more?" is astounding. Yes we need you to say more because Subang Jaya isn't a prime location. You can't treat it as if it is KL Sentral or Bukit Bintang and stop harping on the dying subang parade mall and mediocre shopping gallery. No one would think of SS16 as their first choice of visit unlike Sunway Pyramid so either you do something about your SJCC or you stop advertising as if SJCC is where people wants to be.
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SJ might not be "prime" location but it really is a convenient place to stay for many. While it is not as near to KL compared to say...PJ or Bangsar or TTDI, it is still considered near enough. Also, SJ is matured already. Plenty of amenities (shopping malls, hospitals, education institutions, restaurants & cafes, etc) in the vicinity, albeit not everything is within "walking distance". Of course Subang Parade is pretty much crap, but I gotta disagree with Empire being mediocre. People seem to like to shop and jalan jalan here as there are quite a number of eateries and Jaya Grocer as well through my observation. In any case, Sunway Pyramid is not far away from SJCC. If people from the deep ends of USJ can travel to Pyramid, I don't see why people from SJCC can't.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2019, 11:23 AM)
eh,,,,,sorry my fren…..

actually subang jaya is always my ideal location for ownstay, especially the SJCC stretch.....unfortunately the last two offerings are not quite at the best locations.

ask yourself this IF you are not familiar with Subang Jaya. The price here is from 800psf up to 1000psf.....which area in greater Klang Valley, excluding KL CBD can demand this price???? mk, Bangsar, dsara height, dpc, maluri, Tropicana, sunway pj

where else?
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That's why they can't demand that price whistling.gif

800+ sqf Lot 15 mid level floor is very close to the price of a double story house in SS19 (good condition).

I would prefer to say Sime is jacking up the price than what it is really worth. Otherwise Lot 15 won't be stuck at 60+% take up rate after so many years.

Saujana Residency is only RM700+ psf.... that is the prime of the prime, situated in the middle of everything and it is also the highest end you could get. (Low density mid rise.. less than 20 floors).





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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 2 2019, 07:54 PM)
That's why they can't demand that price  whistling.gif

800+ sqf Lot 15 mid level floor is very close to the price of a double story house in SS19 (good condition).

I would prefer to say Sime is jacking up the price than what it is really worth. Otherwise Lot 15 won't be stuck at 60+% take up rate after so many years.

Saujana Residency is only RM700+ psf.... that is the prime of the prime, situated in the middle of everything and it is also the highest end you could get. (Low density mid rise.. less than 20 floors).
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you cant exactly compared landed with highrise even if they are same area. criteria and usage of highrise and landed are rather different.

the surrounding of LOT15 is much to be desired that's why the sales kena sangkut. Not so much with prices. Good facing units are being taken up nevertheless.

Saujana Residency is by LION group which is not known to build high end of anything. their launch price was like below 200psf in 2003 (base on my fading memory) and it was certainly not a high end offering even in 2003. plus now the lrt track passed thru the building.

subang parade is not a dying mall. its a very nice community and neighbourhood mall. it survived for so many years and its still well patroned by many. empire just complimented subang Parade.

this stretch of highrises all subjected to height restriction bcos of subang airport nearby. same with highrises in ara Damansara and lembah subang.

there is another plot of land owned by SIME that earmarked for development further down from Damen at USJ. Right infront of LRT station. This SIME has got everything planned out in advance and here to make a killing.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 3 2019, 12:31 PM)
you cant exactly compared landed with highrise even if they are same area. criteria and usage of highrise and landed are rather different.

the surrounding of LOT15 is much to be desired that's why the sales kena sangkut. Not so much with prices. Good facing units are being taken up nevertheless.

Saujana Residency is by LION group which is not known to build high end of anything. their launch price was like below 200psf in 2003 (base on my fading memory) and it was certainly not a high end offering even in 2003. plus now the lrt track passed thru the building.

subang parade is not a dying mall. its a very nice community and neighbourhood mall. it survived for so many years and its still well patroned by many. empire just complimented subang Parade.

this stretch of highrises all subjected to height restriction bcos of subang airport nearby. same with highrises in ara Damansara and lembah subang.

there is another plot of land owned by SIME that earmarked for development further down from Damen at USJ. Right infront of LRT station. This SIME has got everything planned out in advance and here to make a killing.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 3 2019, 01:31 PM)
you cant exactly compared landed with highrise even if they are same area. criteria and usage of highrise and landed are rather different.

the surrounding of LOT15 is much to be desired that's why the sales kena sangkut. Not so much with prices. Good facing units are being taken up nevertheless.

Saujana Residency is by LION group which is not known to build high end of anything. their launch price was like below 200psf in 2003 (base on my fading memory) and it was certainly not a high end offering even in 2003. plus now the lrt track passed thru the building.

subang parade is not a dying mall. its a very nice community and neighbourhood mall. it survived for so many years and its still well patroned by many. empire just complimented subang Parade.

this stretch of highrises all subjected to height restriction bcos of subang airport nearby. same with highrises in ara Damansara and lembah subang.

there is another plot of land owned by SIME that earmarked for development further down from Damen at USJ. Right infront of LRT station. This SIME has got everything planned out in advance and here to make a killing.
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Sdp still got manyak land in usj n ph, all put on hold bcos concentrating on sjcc 1st. Nxt yr d high rise in ph will b launched via dto, if pricing us right will b sapued fast
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QUOTE(BRE @ Oct 4 2019, 01:02 PM)
Sdp still got manyak land in usj n ph,  all put on hold bcos concentrating on sjcc 1st.  Nxt yr d high rise in ph will b launched via dto, if pricing us right will b sapued fast
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PH?

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QUOTE(bigman @ Oct 4 2019, 01:06 PM)
PH?

Pahang?
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QUOTE(BRE @ Oct 4 2019, 01:02 PM)
Sdp still got manyak land in usj n ph,  all put on hold bcos concentrating on sjcc 1st.  Nxt yr d high rise in ph will b launched via dto, if pricing us right will b sapued fast
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Wow bro bre add your ph prop bbb next dto notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 4 2019, 01:20 PM)
Putra Heights la lol
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QUOTE(deed @ Oct 4 2019, 05:26 PM)
Wow bro bre add your ph prop bbb next dto  notworthy.gif
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unfortunately both USJ and PH aren't my ideal place to call home......8zhi tak ngam.

patiently waiting for something good to come out at SJCC.
maybe 3rd time lucky?

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