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Toyota Innova 2.0x, Best value for money 7seater?
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TSejan_
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 Apr 18 2019, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Apr 18 2019, 12:53 PM) if you are so worried about fuel consumption, few options. 1) go for diesel. that means KGC. or a used Starex. diesel works hard for big loads yet deliver best of fuel consumptions and torque. 2) Go for Serena, but fuel consumption only slightly better than Innova due to micro hybrid tech, GDi system and start stop system 3) Get a Perodua Aruz. I'm not kidding. makes logic sense if u want best SUV FC but 5+2 seater. mind you that Innova chassis is quite heavy. here Malaysia gets the Petrol version because majority wants Petrol. Indonesia gets diesel option because they like diesel more than us. just look at the records at fuelly. com for Innova petrol. the fc not far off from Exora Turbo. http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/innova?en...d=&submodel_id=If not really high is ok. Previously I'm own exora and no issue with the FC. Reason sell due to exora GB issue. Other than that is perfect car for the price.. I'm still satisfied with exora.. |
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TSejan_
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Apr 18 2019, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Apr 15 2019, 07:35 PM) I see more new Serena than Innova......... Agree.. but Serena design not really my taste .. look thin n high.. if more wide is better... imho, Nissan also not really appreciate their customer... The car price very fast drop.. why they always give higher discount for new car? It's better sell at low price or put more features instead of discount...Toyota honda also got discount but not much as Nissan.. |
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empire
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Apr 19 2019, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 18 2019, 07:01 PM) I have driven the hybrid version. Power delivery pretty good. I have come to know about its steering rack issue though. Cheers naw, SERENA is one of the worse MPV's when it comes to power. power delivery is pretty good? Hahaha ...dream on!  |
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empire
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Apr 19 2019, 02:33 AM
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you wont find any SERENA owner and ex- owner praise SERENA. On the contrary you will find tons of complains about how useless the Serena is.
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Effy92
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Apr 19 2019, 08:29 AM
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If you are not rushing to buy just wait for Geely Jiaji VF11, next year only. Once it come here it will be the most value for money MPV in Malaysia.
This post has been edited by Effy92: Apr 19 2019, 08:29 AM
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Deja Vu
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Apr 19 2019, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 19 2019, 02:31 AM) naw, SERENA is one of the worse MPV's when it comes to power. power delivery is pretty good? Hahaha ...dream on! To be fair, those who bought a Serena or any tall boxy MPVs should not place high expectation in the power department. You need a SMAx or a used Touran for powah in this 2.0L and below MPV category. |
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empire
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Apr 19 2019, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Apr 19 2019, 09:25 AM) To be fair, those who bought a Serena or any tall boxy MPVs should not place high expectation in the power department. You need a SMAx or a used Touran for powah in this 2.0L and below MPV category. The biggest joke was when my friend was using his Serena Hybrid to go up Genting...with 4 adults in it and a Kancil with also 4 adults overtook the Serena going up hill!  Imagine how malu-fying it was He said he tekan the accelerator max already but still the Kancil overtook his Serena LOL! Not only Kancil...Vios, City, Iswara, kelisa and many more cars that are way cheaper than his hybrid Serena also overtook him. That was when he knew he is not going to suffer anymore with serena. Really useless. Innova is slightly better la... but not by much either. |
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empire
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Apr 19 2019, 12:17 PM
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If you want comfort and at the same time dont wanna suffer with a weak engine pushing a heavy body...forget about Serena and Innova. Both are more or less the same useless under powered MPV's that are also KUAT MAKAN Petrol.
In fact all MPV's in the 2L category and below are also the same: Super weak engine pushing a super boxy heavy body, eats petrol like mad, spare parts super mahal, road tax higher than normal cars even though both MPV and car are the same cc the MPV road tax is always higher.
The bare minimum for a tolerable MPV is with at least 2.5L engine. anything less than that, dont waste your money and time.
This post has been edited by empire: Apr 19 2019, 12:18 PM
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makky
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Apr 19 2019, 06:49 PM
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Kia grand cranival, diesel2.2. .fuel saving and 8 speed gearbox.
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TSejan_
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Apr 20 2019, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(makky @ Apr 19 2019, 06:49 PM) Kia grand cranival, diesel2.2. .fuel saving and 8 speed gearbox. as mention earlier, still no confident on KIA brand. Great car for the value.. they suppose invest more for after sales especially SC nationwide to gain the trust.. for the time being, innova x still maintain my top list.. already test drive maxus g10.. CKD version.. acceptable power 2.0 petrol turbo...but suspension bit floating.. so i skip this.. another model that i looking is Nissan Elgrand.. 2.5cc.. still no time to have a look and test drive. Not much info right now. please share if you have any.. |
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markblurberry
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Apr 21 2019, 02:22 AM
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Innova is reasonably attractive coming from a relative who bought the very first batch otr...sampled the ride quite a fair bit, its comfortable, steady, with mood light - it looks kinda classy compared to old innova, the 365 degree parking view is bliss and and for a new car, its a solid offering. BUT, paying north of 130K, it looks less than desirable - maybe alit better than prev generations but for the price, it doesn't cut it. Petrol is heavy, and yes its underpower, on highway you'd probably built enough momentum to carry the car steady, but on the spot pick up and overtaking can be abit strenuous. Foresee next model from Geely/proton to bury innova completely - just my thought
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TSejan_
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Apr 23 2019, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Apr 21 2019, 02:22 AM) Innova is reasonably attractive coming from a relative who bought the very first batch otr...sampled the ride quite a fair bit, its comfortable, steady, with mood light - it looks kinda classy compared to old innova, the 365 degree parking view is bliss and and for a new car, its a solid offering. BUT, paying north of 130K, it looks less than desirable - maybe alit better than prev generations but for the price, it doesn't cut it. Petrol is heavy, and yes its underpower, on highway you'd probably built enough momentum to carry the car steady, but on the spot pick up and overtaking can be abit strenuous. Foresee next model from Geely/proton to bury innova completely - just my thought next Geely MPV look nice but i cant wait further. Else there will be no ending as new car keep coming.. Btw, I take another innova test drive. This time innova 2.0X test drive unit. Its seem reasonable power compare previous G-Spec test drive.. It could be this time the car is new with mileage ard 3k only.. for me 130k is acceptable price compare other japanese car brand.. |
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Boy96
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Apr 23 2019, 02:52 PM
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how about mitsubishi outlander 2.0? 129k after discount
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Deja Vu
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Apr 23 2019, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 23 2019, 02:52 PM) how about mitsubishi outlander 2.0? 129k after discount The Airtrek's last row is good for medium or smaller sized adults. However the angle of the only available air vents on the dashboard are not the best in blowing air directly to the rear, plus the 2.0L and CVT drivetrain is more suited for sedate driving. Pity coz I really liked its suspension and chassis setup. If one really wants the Airtrek for hauling people, better to wait for the facelift version with a rear aircon blower that is already available in Australia and Singapore. |
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Boy96
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Apr 23 2019, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Apr 23 2019, 04:25 PM) The Airtrek's last row is good for medium or smaller sized adults. However the angle of the only available air vents on the dashboard are not the best in blowing air directly to the rear, plus the 2.0L and CVT drivetrain is more suited for sedate driving. Pity coz I really liked its suspension and chassis setup. If one really wants the Airtrek for hauling people, better to wait for the facelift version with a rear aircon blower that is already available in Australia and Singapore. The showroom i went last sunday, the SA said they can install a blower for the rear, using original mitsubishi parts. Cost around 1k+. Its an optional extra |
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Deja Vu
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Apr 23 2019, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 23 2019, 05:38 PM) The showroom i went last sunday, the SA said they can install a blower for the rear, using original mitsubishi parts. Cost around 1k+. Its an optional extra Had a peek at Mitsubishi Malaysia`s web site and found this optional `air circulator` suspiciously similar to the aftermarket `rear aircon blower` installed by many first generation Toyota Wish owners. If it is, it was priced about RM700-800 each and is actually just a centrifugal fan with a 2-speed switch. It functions similar to the better integrated second row overhead blowers on the Rush, Aruz and Sienta by sucking and accelerating air channeled close to the roof. The updated version I meant has rear vents molded into the centre arm rest between both front seats, channeling cool air directly from the evaporator under the dashboard. |
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empire
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Apr 23 2019, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 23 2019, 05:38 PM) The showroom i went last sunday, the SA said they can install a blower for the rear, using original mitsubishi parts. Cost around 1k+. Its an optional extra Then your vehicle will suffer even more with lagi weaker engine and even higher fuel consumption. The extra blower needs power and it gets the power from the engine. Your air compressor also has to work doubly hard,,,so wear and tear is two times faster too. |
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Deja Vu
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Apr 24 2019, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 23 2019, 11:37 PM) Then your vehicle will suffer even more with lagi weaker engine and even higher fuel consumption. The extra blower needs power and it gets the power from the engine. Your air compressor also has to work doubly hard,,,so wear and tear is two times faster too. I really doubt it'll put any extra load as you mentioned. Below is the difference between our optional and factory fitted rear AC from Singapore. If one were to be really nitpicking, the overhead aftermarket 1 should (in theory) be more effective in blowing air to the last row in expense of looks and extra noise from the fan motor. This post has been edited by Deja Vu: Apr 24 2019, 09:01 AM Attached thumbnail(s)
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empire
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Apr 24 2019, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Apr 24 2019, 08:57 AM) I really doubt it'll put any extra load as you mentioned. Below is the difference between our optional and factory fitted rear AC from Singapore. If one were to be really nitpicking, the overhead aftermarket 1 should (in theory) be more effective in blowing air to the last row in expense of looks and extra noise from the fan motor. you really have no clue what you are talking about. Never mind. |
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Deja Vu
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Apr 24 2019, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 24 2019, 12:46 PM) you really have no clue what you are talking about. Never mind. Yeah, I guess it's the same to you too because not everyone understands the average load put onto the engine between auxiliary accessories and an air con compressor. Peace. |
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