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post Jul 9 2007, 06:03 PM

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Nintendo is a clever company and has moved itself from the red sea into the blue sea! No more competition of high tech Graphics and anything else but more towards games development that can allow the whole family to play along!

The developers of Wii main goal from the starting wasnt to acquire the support of the hardcore gamers from the start but more towards the acceptance of the "parents". If your father and mother like Wii then purchasing Wii and placing it in the living room will not be a problem, complains from angry mother and father will never again been hear since themselves also enjoy the console!

So that why Wii has so many console sold! Not to hardcore gamers but to another market! The family market! My parents also like the Wii, and has no complain when i played it in my living room but things are 100% different for Xbox and PS3 where most parents will said that those games are violence and no good!

Look at wii from a different angle and then u can have Wii and Ps3 put together just for fun!

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Sony has confirmed the price cut officially at their official blog and confirmed also by SCEA President & CEO Jack Tretton.

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New PS3, New Price Drop & More News Coming

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We're introducing a new PS3 model with a 80GB hard drive which will include a free copy of MotorStorm, all for the retail price of $599. This 80GB package will be available starting in August, just a few short weeks from today. The larger hard drive will give players more of an opportunity to take advantage of all the downloadable games and trailers on the PLAYSTATION Network, including the content from our forthcoming download service which will include videos, movies and other entertainment content.

In addition, as some of you speculated last week, we confirmed today that we are lowering the price of our current 60GB PS3 by $100, to $499, effective immediately in North America. I know many of you were eager to hear this and we're thrilled to share this with you now as we head into E3.

Source: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/08/...re-news-coming/

Confirmation by SCEA President & CEO Jack Tretton


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post Jul 9 2007, 06:25 PM

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The Wii does have Wi-Fi. Also, could it be that the Wii is selling so well because its so darn easy to get pirated games for it? Also, like others have said, the Wii targets a different game market. So far the only game that I find appealing is Super Paper Mario. That's why my Wii is in the living room where my nieces love it while my 360 and PS3 is my room.

I just dont get it. U come to a PS3 thread and keep telling us how bad it is. If u're not happy with u'r purchase, why not just sell it and not be bothered with it for the rest of your life?
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Yunno why the Wii is selling so well right now?  Its because of the price(just in case you don't know). It's not even half as powerful as the PS3 nor does it have HDMI or Wifi, and non of its game looks half as pretty as the PS3 games, but it sells.  You guys might have a few extra $$$ but you don't have to talk cocky.
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Personally I think Will don't have the legs to survive after 3-4 years...Now We can still bear the graphics/gameplay that Wii churns out...

But come after 3-4 years....when 360 and PS3 games are looking and sounding and playing like a next gen game should be....Wii will be left behind...

It'll be like looking and playing a PS1 game in the PS2 and xbox era....it used to be great playing a PS1 game but when we play it now....gosh it's awful...I'm talking abou new games here...not nostalgic game...like FF7 (which I still play till now).

For example, take the RE4 for wii..it's great of course....fun and all...but we want sumthing new..big and badass...not the same old same old but with new controls..

Games that's coming out on Wii is mostly for casual gamers but the real next gen games will be on 360 and PS3...

What the developers and publishers will be doing is to create cheap ass casual games selling at full price (USD50-USD60) and use the money that they made to funds PS3 and 360 games that cost a bomb to make...

So I think it's a win-win situation for the industry...Wii is not a competition for the 360 of PS3...but it is there to complement it...for both gamers and the publishers/developers

I hope you guys get what I meant
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jul 9 2007, 06:31 PM)
Personally I think Will don't have the legs to survive after 3-4 years...Now We can still bear the graphics/gameplay that Wii churns out...

But come after 3-4 years....when 360 and PS3 games are looking and sounding and playing like a next gen game should be....Wii will be left behind...

It'll be like looking and playing a PS1 game in the PS2 and xbox era....it used to be great playing a PS1 game but when we play it now....gosh it's awful...I'm talking abou new games here...not nostalgic game...like FF7 (which I still play till now).

For example, take the RE4 for wii..it's great of course....fun and all...but we want sumthing new..big and badass...not the same old same old but with new controls..

Games that's coming out on Wii is mostly for casual gamers but the real next gen games will be on 360 and PS3...

What the developers and publishers will be doing is to create cheap ass casual games selling at full price (USD50-USD60) and use the money that they made to funds PS3 and 360 games that cost a bomb to make...

So I think it's a win-win situation for the industry...Wii is not a competition for the 360 of PS3...but it is there to complement it...for both gamers and the publishers/developers

I hope you guys get what I meant
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Bro just like wat a few of us been saying, Wii is on a different market! And in that market graphic and sounding doesnt even matter! This is the "BLUE SEA" of Console market.

Just think will a 7-10 years old kid feels any different of a really 3D look game tat come with wonderful graphic and sound! Kids dun mind, they want the thing to be fun onli! And have a look at those cartoon kids watch this days, damn Spounge Bob look so ugly and those drawing!!! But they like it, but i dun think they will like the FF7AC.
Same goes to the parents, they also dun give much damn to super duper coolsome graphic! They are too busy to waste their time on games that need a lot a lot of time to go through. So come the wii where games are keep light and easy, enjoyable after a long day of work and stress!

So we should not compare this console with the others.

The future of "RED SEA" console matches are onli between 360 and PS3! Who ever wins the other will have their head smash! The market is too small for this 2, but ppl can still have a small wii in the living room even u got a PS3 or Xbox360 in ur room! thumbup.gif

And by the way Wii games arent cheap, Zelda is already the best action RPG in the market! The downside is it lack voice acting!
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post Jul 9 2007, 08:13 PM

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no point debating it now la. jus let the flow go.. i wish i had a xbox360 and wii too. i mean the games there are cool too. but i am not rich ler. so i hv to do wats best..

the reason sony managed to lower the price for 80gb is cause thy removed the ps2 processor and allow the cell to emulate it. hence cheaper..
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post Jul 9 2007, 09:58 PM

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ninja ko buat bisnes game demo keR?bkan bleh dl kat PSN?
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post Jul 9 2007, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(crimsonhead @ Jul 9 2007, 09:58 PM)
ninja ko buat bisnes game demo keR?bkan bleh dl kat PSN?
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I'm providing off-line installation, so new PS3 owners don't have to go through downloading-time through PSN. Just in a few minutes, you can have all PS3 demo games available installed in your PS3.
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post Jul 9 2007, 10:42 PM

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nice service keep up the good work rclxms.gif ninja how come seldom c u on R6V?
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QUOTE(kevinboey86 @ Jul 9 2007, 10:42 PM)
nice service keep up the good work  rclxms.gif  ninja how come seldom c u on R6V?
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I'm quite busy this week. sweat.gif I'm currently aiming to finish single-player campaign first, then will continue with online multiplayer. biggrin.gif You finished story-mode already?
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no ler haha kindda hard though i play abit multiplayer and also single player at the same time....
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QUOTE(Ninja @ Jul 9 2007, 10:35 PM)
I'm providing off-line installation, so new PS3 owners don't have to go through downloading-time through PSN. Just in a few minutes, you can have all PS3 demo games available installed in your PS3.
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How you do that bro??

Cause it sounds really cool.
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post Jul 9 2007, 11:53 PM

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ya how u do tat man. i want to learn

anyways how u distinguish the asia ps store and the US version?


Added on July 10, 2007, 12:25 amso many trailers to download in us ps store..!! i luv the unchartered!!! freaking awesome. the dialog is funny too.. ai. heavenly sword is another awesome game. darn la no cash edi

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QUOTE(300078 @ Jul 9 2007, 07:26 PM)
Bro just like wat a few of us been saying, Wii is on a different market! And in that market graphic and sounding doesnt even matter! This is the "BLUE SEA" of Console market.

Just think will a 7-10 years old kid feels any different of a really 3D look game tat come with wonderful graphic and sound! Kids dun mind, they want the thing to be fun onli! And have a look at those cartoon kids watch this days, damn Spounge Bob look so ugly and those drawing!!! But they like it, but i dun think they will like the FF7AC.
Same goes to the parents, they also dun give much damn to super duper coolsome graphic! They are too busy to waste their time on games that need a lot a lot of time to go through. So come the wii where games are keep light and easy, enjoyable after a long day of work and stress!

So we should not compare this console with the others.

The future of "RED SEA" console matches are onli between 360 and PS3! Who ever wins the other will have their head smash! The market is too small for this 2, but ppl can still have a small wii in the living room even u got a PS3 or Xbox360 in ur room! thumbup.gif

And by the way Wii games arent cheap, Zelda is already the best action RPG in the market! The downside is it lack voice acting!
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Personally, I think they share the same market...those who will buy a ps3/360 will most probably buy a Wii also..and the same can be said otherwise. Which means the customers are the same. So it's same market.

But, I wouldn't call the Wii as a competitor to the PS3/360. in fact, Nintendo never said that 360/PS3 as their competition and vice versa.

So, That is why I said, Will exist to complement the Industry. They are making the pie much bigger instead of stealing the slices from each other like 360 and PS3.

I agree with you in not comparing between Wii and the other two.

But I personally think that a two console industry is just nice and not too small. so we won't have monopoly..furthermore...we can also benefit as one is trying so hard to best the other...which in turn will benefit us consumer. That's why I prefer any console war to be evenly won by the players.

As for your mentioning of casual games, I believe, that's where PS3 and 360 are going to also. they would have these small pick-and-play games to complement the traditional-long-winded-heavy-games. They have games like Geometry Wars, Super Stardust HD, calling-all-cars (to name the recently few) and etc.

So as you can see all three consoles know the importance of casual games. it is not just exclusive to Wii.

As for the cheap game for the wii...My apologies for a sweeping stament..What I meant was MOST if not all Wii games will be rather cheap to make as compared to a typical PS3/360 games as devs/publishers don't have to spend valuable resources creating a detailed games that a console such as 360/PS3 required. Costs like coding for a new next gen hardware, texture designing in HD, 5.1 and 7.1 sounds engineering and etc.

Take one example like GT5 for PS3, previously, they only require 1 hour of a person work hour to build a car for GT1. But, now, they required IINM 2-3 months of a team of people to build a car. The cost and time difference are substantial...

Not to mentioned if a game on PS3/360 don't have a top notch cinematics with well known voice actors and...motion actors...they will be crucified...so add that to the cost.

Game developers used to have only 10-20 people in their office...now a typical developer for PS3/360 is usually more than 50.

Since Wii is not really a next gen hardware...in terms of developing for it, it would not require resources as big as 360/PS3. That is what I meant as cheap...it doesn't mean that cheap as in game-cap-ayam-tak-bleh-pakai-punya or as in not worth playing kinda game.

Cheap as in the cost of developing for it. Of course there will still be big budget games like Zelda and etc...but mostly it will NOT cost them as much as a big budget game for PS3/360.

To sum it up, cheap game to make for the will will still be sold at 50-60 USD..example like Geometry Wars for the Wii....Just think of how much profits these people will make for each game...

But a big budget game like FFXIII, Halo 3, Forza 2...will still have to be sold at 50-60 (mostly $60 now) even though more resources have been used in building these game.

That is how I meant that Most Wii games + the casual games will funds the big budget games.

I think I've written too much already.... whistling.gif

QUOTE(ruztynail @ Jul 9 2007, 08:13 PM)
no point debating it now la. jus let the flow go.. i wish i had a xbox360 and wii too. i mean the games there are cool too. but i am not rich ler. so i hv to do wats best..

the reason sony managed to lower the price for 80gb is cause thy removed the ps2 processor and allow the cell to emulate it. hence cheaper..
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Now I personally think that discussing/debating about a situation in a civilised manner should be encourage so we can be a more informed consumer and/or gamer.

Although, the topic to be discussed plays an important part too....and ...as you said "no point debating" if it's regarding certain topics..that is we debate till lembu balik pun still tak guna...

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Nak tanya. nowadays brapa dah eh PS3??? Yang standard la, with 2 controllers and all.
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jul 10 2007, 01:38 AM)
Nak tanya. nowadays brapa dah eh PS3??? Yang standard la, with 2 controllers and all.
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Try and ask Bernard or Djin...Their prices are very very good...you can't go wrong with them...on and Andy's great too..

Bernard Thread can be found in Consoles Couch sections under Gamers Solutions...Shops is in KL infromnt of Pertama Kompleks

Djin....Well you can just PM him..search for the name...Not sure if his thread is already working..last time I checked it is still under construction..

And Andys....Shop is at Imbi plaza...I don't know how to contact tho...

Give them a try and then you tell us the prices...they offered...I'm sure almost everybody will say it a great price you've got.




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i have all of them..i enjoy playing Wii, PS3 & 360.. coz i like the game not the concole.. if the console powerfull or superb.. but NO game ... no point gak kan... so dude.. no need to gaduh2.... if u got money buy all if not.. just buy 1.. console...yg ada game u like... most.. that all.. smile.gif...
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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Jul 10 2007, 08:38 AM)
i have all of them..i enjoy playing Wii, PS3 & 360.. coz i like the game not the concole.. if the console powerfull or superb.. but NO game ... no point gak kan... so dude.. no need to gaduh2.... if u got money buy all if not.. just buy 1.. console...yg ada game u like... most.. that all.. smile.gif...
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ai like tat il save for xbox360 too lol

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