Cannot cut as it seems from the video that Johor is dependent on Singapore to supply 16 +6 million gallons of treated water.

Furthermore, as indicated in the video, if Malaysia increase the price of raw water, what is there to prevent Singapore to jack up the price of treated water to Malaysia? Isn't that stupid?

If die die want to cut water supply, Johoreans also won't have enough treated water, and it will be considered an act of war by Singapore, and Singapore just need to invade and take over Johor, then their natural resources problems will be solved, Malaysia will definitely retaliate, but is that what both countries want?

In the end this water issue benefits no one and is a non-issue that Tun M has played up many times and is very tiring, just move on and focus on other bread and butter issues la...

Bro, you read or not?

The cost of treating the water is a few times higher than the 50 cents Singapore is charging Malaysia, it's not selling price, it's cost of subsidy and if people build infra for you what's wrong of you paying maintenance because you already untung by not paying for the infra.

I really suspect your maths and comprehension. Malaysian to a Malaysian.

If we want to argue, we need to do it properly, not use emotions, that's how we lose to the Singaporeans who use logic (but their downfall will be their pride, as is seen this thread).

This post has been edited by weissPC: Mar 4 2019, 12:17 AM

You tell that to the court of arbitration that you ignore the cost of treating water, can ah?

Like a Singaporean said, make a win-win agreement, we're complimentary economies, we need each other to win, and you're thinking about maintenance cost when the bigger picture is China, and potentially all the sea trade bypassing us thru Myanmar direct to China.

This post has been edited by weissPC: Mar 4 2019, 12:26 AM

If I remember, it's PM4...

Yeah, acquiring Johor (politically or militarily) will solve a lot of Singapore's problems but will definitely create a lot of new problems with the remaining butthurt states of Peninsula Malaysia.

This could be in Singapore's military doctrine that's not publicly known, so instead of upping our game, and in the meantime leveraging on each other, spending so much time and effort by getting butthurt that we're paying Singapore RM500 (is it SGD or MYR?) per day for water and the fact that we will be paying maintenance on infra that Singapore built in the future.

This lack of vision and kiasuness by some Malaysians will doom us to remain backwater nation for a long long time.

Singapore paid for the infra (dams, piping, water treatment plants, the land required, etc), not to say I prefer this arrangement but Singapore follow the agreement and even went beyond the agreement to supply extra treated water to Johor. And when Johor cannot supply enough water as per the agreement, Singapore built extra infra for Malaysia which will be given to Malaysia once the contract period expires.

I'd say we better wise up to what Tun M is doing, and make our own conclusions.

We can say we kena conned by building a causeway that prevented ships to bypass Singapore port but that could be moot if China's belt and road initiative works (China is planning multiple infra to bypass Straits of Melacca, from Myanmar, or Isthmus of Kra in Thailand, or Port Klang to Kuantan Port, or even from Europe straight to China by rail).

Building the stupid crooked bridge won't help and arguing over the water agreement won't help in the big scheme of things.

Why need to compete when you can complement and strive for win-win? Up our game, focus on our strengths and let Singapore focus on theirs. Tun M is letting old wounds cloud his judgement or divert from what's really urgent, and saying things that rakyat don't want to hear.

Furthermore, spending money on military hardware upgrades to show to your neighbours is also not the best use of resources when you can make peace and divert the money to better use.

All this emo emo and political posturing is not really helping the day to day struggles that Malaysians are facing.