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boyboycute
post Nov 16 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Oct 27 2023, 10:01 AM)
EPF is audited by the Auditor General i.e. the government auditors.
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I feel very secure knowing it's auditing itself
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post Nov 16 2023, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 19 2023, 10:05 AM)
Plenty of money??? Doubtful but hope they got the $$$ to pay the rm300...

Who ask greedy take up 2 jobs... That's why need someone else to hold the FM position... Or have another FM given to those really qualified & well known the job...

Let's see how long need to wait for the money to come....

It's breaking all previous records... Most late credit $$$
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Can get 2x pension scheme
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post Nov 16 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(boyboycute @ Nov 16 2023, 10:55 AM)
Can get 2x pension scheme
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Sure??
Not 1 only...
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post Nov 16 2023, 12:33 PM

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i have sent email to epf asking how many people have done 100k self contribution, would really love to know the number
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post Nov 16 2023, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 16 2023, 12:33 PM)
i have sent email to epf asking how many people have done 100k self contribution, would really love to know the number
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you think EPF will reply with exact data ?
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post Nov 16 2023, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 16 2023, 12:42 PM)
you think EPF will reply with exact data ?
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Never try never know...

Just try luck & see if they disclose the information or not 😁

Or can ask your local MP to summit the question in next parliament sessions Q&A time 🙏

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romuluz777
post Nov 16 2023, 12:49 PM

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After dividend collection next year....hopefully dapat 6%....can consider Porsche Boxster S pre owned...yummy

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First thing first

Need to see the latest Qtr report of EPF...

From there we somehow can predict the final outcome for year 2023 🔥
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post Nov 16 2023, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2023, 12:53 PM)
First thing first

Need to see the latest Qtr report of EPF...

From there we somehow can predict the final outcome for year 2023 🔥
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Q3 at least 19B to 20B max
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post Nov 16 2023, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 16 2023, 12:55 PM)
Q3 at least 19B to 20B max
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Hopefully better than last year one...

So overall can give higher dividends rate 🤑💰
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2023, 01:01 PM)
Hopefully better than last year one...

So overall can give higher dividends rate 🤑💰
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hopefully !!! 6+ possibly
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 16 2023, 12:42 PM)
you think EPF will reply with exact data ?
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try ah, even if no... they will keep that as a reminder when posting epf stats....

also nice if they show max 60k contribution
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Nov 16 2023, 12:49 PM)
After dividend collection next year....hopefully dapat 6%....can consider Porsche Boxster S pre owned...yummy
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wow, porsche boxster!


QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2023, 12:53 PM)
First thing first

Need to see the latest Qtr report of EPF...

From there we somehow can predict the final outcome for year 2023 🔥
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a def 6% min for me.


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post Nov 16 2023, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 16 2023, 01:03 PM)
hopefully !!! 6+ possibly
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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 16 2023, 01:48 PM)
a def 6% min for me.
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Yup.
Hoping for them to give me 6% too... If possible 😁
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post Nov 17 2023, 09:33 AM

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I expect at least a 6.xx+ next February...

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post Nov 17 2023, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2023, 11:23 AM)
Sure??
Not 1 only...
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Yes. They get one pension scheme for every position they hold.

Example, Ahli DUN who is also a minister get 2 pension

Just serve 1 term. (Based on info from Syed Saddiq video)

Ho sei



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post Nov 20 2023, 11:38 PM

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Is there any change to the i-saraan scheme announced in Budget 2024?

https://www.sinchew.com.my/news/20231120/nation/5141182

Seems like now there is a matching sum of 500 MYR instead of 300 MYR but now there is an additional maximum "lifetime" limit of 5000 MYR.

Previously I only recall a raise of matching sum from 250 to 300 MYR.

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post Nov 21 2023, 04:11 AM

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...rm10000-savings

KUALA LUMPUR: The issue of insufficient savings in the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) is at a serious level, with 6.3 million members under the age of 55, or 48%, having less than RM10,000 in their accounts as of Sept 30, says the Finance Ministry.

In a written reply posted on the Parliament website on Monday (Nov 20), the ministry said the figure rose from 4.7 million members (37%) recorded in April 2020, before the introduction of Covid-19-related special withdrawals.

"With savings of less than RM10,000, members are expected to have a retirement income of less than RM42 per month for a period of 20 years.

"The additional withdrawals from Account 1 also have a long-term effect, namely a significant reduction in retirement savings among EPF members," it said in response to a question raised by Zulkifli Ismail (Perikatan Nasional-Jasin) on the government's initiative to address the issue of insufficient retirement savings among the people, compounded by the large informal sector in Malaysia and a higher dependency ratio.

The ministry said the issue is taken seriously, especially considering that the country is facing a rapidly ageing population which is expected to have a significant impact on the nation and people in terms of the economy, productivity, social welfare, quality of life and health.

The government announced in Budget 2024 an increase in the matching grant limit under the i-Saraan programme from RM300 to RM500 per year, subject to a maximum limit of RM5,000 for each eligible individual throughout their lifetime. – Bernama
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post Nov 21 2023, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 21 2023, 04:11 AM)
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...rm10000-savings

KUALA LUMPUR: The issue of insufficient savings in the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) is at a serious level, with 6.3 million members under the age of 55, or 48%, having less than RM10,000 in their accounts as of Sept 30, says the Finance Ministry.

In a written reply posted on the Parliament website on Monday (Nov 20), the ministry said the figure rose from 4.7 million members (37%) recorded in April 2020, before the introduction of Covid-19-related special withdrawals.

"With savings of less than RM10,000, members are expected to have a retirement income of less than RM42 per month for a period of 20 years.

"The additional withdrawals from Account 1 also have a long-term effect, namely a significant reduction in retirement savings among EPF members," it said in response to a question raised by Zulkifli Ismail (Perikatan Nasional-Jasin) on the government's initiative to address the issue of insufficient retirement savings among the people, compounded by the large informal sector in Malaysia and a higher dependency ratio.

The ministry said the issue is taken seriously, especially considering that the country is facing a rapidly ageing population which is expected to have a significant impact on the nation and people in terms of the economy, productivity, social welfare, quality of life and health.

The government announced in Budget 2024 an increase in the matching grant limit under the i-Saraan programme from RM300 to RM500 per year, subject to a maximum limit of RM5,000 for each eligible individual throughout their lifetime. – Bernama
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Matching grant will only benefits those who contribute and again it does not solve the overall issue
there are so many ppl who has EPF account while they were still working then suddenly they become boss or turn to a gig economy to generate income
this ppl earn like crazy money and they dont even bother to put into EPF
the number 6.3 million members if we take active monthly contirbuting members maybe the number will drop to just 2 million or even lesser
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this was from Last year (sos - https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...rement%20fund.)

As off Dec 2022 - EPF had 15.72 million members, with slightly more than half of them classified as active members.

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so base on the above if we just assume 15.73 million members and slightly more than half is active means 8 million active members
If 8 million active members is not possible to generate 6.3 million members under age 55 to have less than RM10k
conclusion - the numbers is correct as this is table in parliment but they never report out the details behind the numbers especially active vs inactive members

The narrative the gov put out is just ridiculous - we must read between the lines.

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post Nov 22 2023, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 21 2023, 01:47 PM)
Matching grant will only benefits those who contribute and again it does not solve the overall issue
there are so many ppl who has EPF account while they were still working then suddenly they become boss or turn to a gig economy to generate income
this ppl earn like crazy money and they dont even bother to put into EPF
the number 6.3 million members if we take active monthly contirbuting members maybe the number will drop to just 2 million or even lesser
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this was from Last year  (sos - https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...rement%20fund.)

As off Dec 2022 - EPF had 15.72 million members, with slightly more than half of them classified as active members.

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so base on the above if we just assume 15.73 million members and slightly more than half is active means 8 million active members
If 8 million active members is not possible to generate 6.3 million members under age 55 to have less than RM10k
conclusion - the numbers is correct as this is table in parliment but they never report out the details behind the numbers especially active vs inactive members

The narrative the gov  put out is just ridiculous - we must read between the lines.
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kasi chance la. this story is mainly for B40. gotta counter stupid PN in a way. brows.gif

 

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